SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Okay well this is a bit of an issue we have and I want to get some feedback on this. From what I was told by Star who was apparently told by Dj and Bloodrun is that Renders, Fonts, and Brushes all need to be credited by the person who made them or posted them, now what do you people think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 ughyeah!they all needed to be creditedthere all are a form of art in which in this case (even non art) need to be credited people took there time to make themtherefore they have to cedited how would you feel if you spent 5 hours making one! brushand then i come and use it, and say, yeah i amde that last night, no big deal? mmmm? exactly >_>follow the rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Nobody is claiming they made them, people make them for others to use, nobody asks for people to credit them. Otherwise you may as well go onto EVERY GFX site and tell them to credit them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Star did not mention Brushes and Fonts to me, i dont even know what he is refering to with 'Brushes' Whatever he said was Pure rubbish, just ignore him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Nobody is claiming they made them' date=' people make them for others to use, nobody asks for people to credit them. Otherwise you may as well go onto EVERY GFX site and tell them to credit them too.[/quote'] lol actually they dowanna know how i know? if you look at any thing, cerated by someonethere will always be either a name, a water mark or something along those lines somewhere in the pic and anywayits not just the fact that its a rule its common courtesypeople should learn thatyour using someones workatleast give them, the courtesy, by saying who made it >_> and Djbrushes are used on GIMP and Photoshop, to make certain designs (i didnt know if you knew that are not Dj, so dont yell at me >.<) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junk Raver Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I actually didnt know ^_^ I am useless with Graphic design lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Then I think you need to go to every site that does GFX Requests and say that to them. I can garentee you right now if I even tried to do it that people would not only not follow it but be hating on me even more for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Then I think you need to go to every site that does GFX Requests and say that to them. I can garentee you right now if I even tried to do it that people would not only not follow it but be hating on me even more for it. ok well i think you need to get one thing straight, and through to you we are a seperate are we not?we are a yugoh site are we not? we are not a GFX request sitecorrect? we have our own rules correct? therefore as a modyou must know that we must follow these rulescorrect? so dont compare us to a different, sense we are not that siteare in now affiliated, or in no way, even, close to them should i repeat again, that you must credit the artist, no matter what it is? and Djlol oh ok, well i didnt want to come across, as rude or anything like that ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Well until I am told by someone who deals with making such things that it needs to be credited I don't see why I should need to enforce such a rule, and unless you can convince everyone who does GFX on this site to follow it there wouldn't be any point in enforcing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Well until I am told by someone who deals with making such things that it needs to be credited I don't see why I should need to enforce such a rule' date=' and unless you can convince everyone who does GFX on this site to follow it there wouldn't be any point in enforcing it.[/quote'] okyou gave me a challengeand i shall pursue this challenge and you should really learn common courtesy >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I have it, however I think I understand it a bit better than you with regards to GFX since I've got my good share of experience in the subject area and I think I know what needs to be credited and such, if I was claiming that I made them then that is an entirely different subject, for example if I posted some Brushes, Fonts, Renders and so forth here for people to use, then yes I would need to credit them, but sheesh...I have even talked to Dj and he doesn't seem to think the same as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I have it' date=' however I think I understand it a bit better than you with regards to GFX since I've got my good share of experience in the subject area and I think I know what needs to be credited and such, if I was claiming that I made them then that is an entirely different subject, for example if I posted some Brushes, Fonts, Renders and so forth here for people to use, then yes I would need to credit them, but sheesh...I have even talked to Dj and he doesn't seem to think the same as you.[/quote'] i never said that you claimed they were yours i also never said that you should lock wolfs thread >_> and since you say you have experineces in the GFX fieldthen you know how hard it is to make a brush? ( a good brush >_>) and i understand that Dj might not think the same as me this is me talkingas an artistand i only responded to this thread, because it asked my opinion, as a memberand i gave it to you >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 First of all it was not me who locked it, it was Star I simply announced it so everyone knew. Secondly the thread was more posted because of what you said to Star, even though he put it forth that it was both you and Dj. And yes I kinda do even though I have never made one myself, however if it puts you at ease I will even ask someone from Planet Renders if credit is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 First of all it was not me who locked it' date=' it was Star I simply announced it so everyone knew. Secondly the thread was more posted because of what you said to Star, even though he put it forth that it was both you and Dj. And yes I kinda do even though I have never made one myself, however if it puts you at ease I will even ask someone from Planet Renders if credit is needed.[/quote'] ok let me get this straight, and then we can stop this arguing in the CC rules does it not say, that you must credit the artist? it does not say, you must credit the artist from a particular siteit says you must credit the artist >_> that is why i am so worked upnothing else >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 In My opinion, just in my opinion: I think it would be a hassle for some members like me. For Example I have had GIMP for like 4 months now, and I cant even remember where I found some of my brushes, nonetheless the artists.So I would have to search for where I found all the Brushes, Fonts, etc. and find out the artists, that I would Hate. I mean Renders might be alright, but I dont think we should Have to credit The artists of Brushes and Fonts Maybe just say "I do not take credit for the Brushes, Font(s), and renders I used to make this" or something along those lines :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 In My opinion' date=' just in my opinion: I think it would be a hassle for some members like me. For Example I have had GIMP for like 4 months now, and I cant even remember where I found some of my brushes, nonetheless the artists.So I would have to search for where I found all the Brushes, Fonts, etc. and that I would Hate. I mean Renders might be alright, but I dont think we should [u']Have[/u] to credit The artists of Brushes and Fonts i understand, what your saying, though i am saying we MUST get rules on crediting brush and fontsbut if we did, the rule change, with the images, would apply with Brushes and Fontsold, material wouldnt have to fall under the rule change but yes, i do think renders should be credited >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I edited my post and added this: Maybe just say "I do not take credit for the Brushes' date=' Font(s), and renders I used to make this" or something along those lines :/[/quote'] Because Some People Just say something like that when crediting artists for the pics of thier cards :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I edited my post and added this: Maybe just say "I do not take credit for the Brushes' date=' Font(s), and renders I used to make this" or something along those lines :/[/quote'] Because Some People Just say something like that when crediting artists for the pics of thier cards :/ I understand thisand thats how some people get around the rules >_> =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 First of all it was not me who locked it' date=' it was Star I simply announced it so everyone knew. Secondly the thread was more posted because of what you said to Star, even though he put it forth that it was both you and Dj. And yes I kinda do even though I have never made one myself, however if it puts you at ease I will even ask someone from Planet Renders if credit is needed.[/quote'] ok let me get this straight, and then we can stop this arguing in the CC rules does it not say, that you must credit the artist? it does not say, you must credit the artist from a particular siteit says you must credit the artist >_> that is why i am so worked upnothing else >_>And this is was I am refering to, but since the majority of renders used are from that one site I am simply asking them anyway. Another issue is you say about crediting the renderer when my friend who is known for her Yu-Gi-Oh renders has never (from what I know) asked for credit to be given. I understand where you are coming from but if people are not asking for credit when they have been asked if it should be given, then your point becomes invalid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 First of all it was not me who locked it' date=' it was Star I simply announced it so everyone knew. Secondly the thread was more posted because of what you said to Star, even though he put it forth that it was both you and Dj. And yes I kinda do even though I have never made one myself, however if it puts you at ease I will even ask someone from Planet Renders if credit is needed.[/quote'] ok let me get this straight, and then we can stop this arguing in the CC rules does it not say, that you must credit the artist? it does not say, you must credit the artist from a particular siteit says you must credit the artist >_> that is why i am so worked upnothing else >_>And this is was I am refering to, but since the majority of renders used are from that one site I am simply asking them anyway. Another issue is you say about crediting the renderer when my friend who is known for her Yu-Gi-Oh renders has never (from what I know) asked for credit to be given. I understand where you are coming from but if people are not asking for credit when they have been asked if it should be given, then your point becomes invalid. ok ask them and it is a prefernce for the artist, some artist want to be credited, some dont care but my whole stemming of this arguement came from CCtherefore, untill the rules are changed (even slightly) there, my point does not become invalid because in CC it says no matter, you must credit the artist, and it is not limited to one site >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 What you don't seem to understand is that rule was to be mainly enforced on CC alone, nowhere did any Moderator be that Dj, God Kaze, or Frunk even tell me to enforce it therefore unless told otherwise by a higher up, from my own choice, or from some big community like DA, I shouldn't really need to enforce it, and right now I don't see a concern to enforce it...again I know why you are saying for it to be enforced. And that stands to reason that my point won't become invalid because I am also correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 What you don't seem to understand is that rule was to be mainly enforced on CC alone' date=' nowhere did any Moderator be that Dj, God Kaze, or Frunk even tell me to enforce it therefore unless told otherwise by a higher up, from my own choice, or from some big community like DA, I shouldn't really need to enforce it, and right now I don't see a concern to enforce it...again I know why you are saying for it to be enforced. And that stands to reason that my point won't become invalid because I am also correct.[/quote'] lol okbut did i ever once say, you must enforce it in Showcase? or you jurisdiction?i believe not >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Actually you kinda did all over this thread...anyway here is my PMage with a Moderator at Planet Renders that concerns not just that site but others. Hi there, I apologize for randomly PMing you out of nowhere after just registering for the forums although I am a member of Planet Renders itself. But to get to the point of this message I wish to know if it is required for renders made by members of this site or who post renders on this site need to be credited as there is an issue on the site I am a Moderator on and someone has proposed that a image crediting rule for images used on the site's Card Maker should be enforced on Renders, Fonts, and Brushes and I simply wanted to find out from someone from here. With regards, Haruno Sakura - GFX Moderator of Yugioh Card Maker Forums Well ususally renders don't need credit. If you are spreading the render however, then yes, credit is nice. But if you just use it without claiming you made the render yourself, no credit is needed. It's different with artwork though. Artwork has a copyright on it, and you might not be allowed to use it in your own work. But renders, fonts and brushes generally are allowed in non-commercial work unless a description at the original downloading place states differently. Hope that helps :) Skunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Actually you kinda did all over this thread...anyway here is my PMage with a Moderator at Planet Renders that concerns not just that site but others. Hi there' date=' I apologize for randomly PMing you out of nowhere after just registering for the forums although I am a member of Planet Renders itself. But to get to the point of this message I wish to know if it is required for renders made by members of this site or who post renders on this site need to be credited as there is an issue on the site I am a Moderator on and someone has proposed that a image crediting rule for images used on the site's Card Maker should be enforced on Renders, Fonts, and Brushes and I simply wanted to find out from someone from here. With regards, Haruno Sakura - GFX Moderator of Yugioh Card Maker Forums[/quote'] Well ususally renders don't need credit. If you are spreading the render however, then yes, credit is nice. But if you just use it without claiming you made the render yourself, no credit is needed. It's different with artwork though. Artwork has a copyright on it, and you might not be allowed to use it in your own work. But renders, fonts and brushes generally are allowed in non-commercial work unless a description at the original downloading place states differently. Hope that helps :) Skunk hmmh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SushiTheLegend Posted May 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 I figured that would stop you from going on any further. Anyone else have any opinions regarding this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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