Bfmvrocks Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 What "tactics" can you use with Berserk Dragon that you can't use with Dogma and Plasma?Attack all their monsters with one monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 I pity the people that do not see the potential of this card. Nomi turbo' date=' allurable, trade-inable. This card has uses and saying otherwise is plain stupid[/quote'] Nomi Turbo is a joke with Phantom of Chaos on the limited list. As for being allure/trade-inable, use Dark Nephthys, Dark Horus, Dark Magician of Chaos, Darklord Zerato, Van'Dalgyon, Plasma, and Dogma instead. Plus, Plasma and Dogma are also D-Drawable, so they're way better. Remix: XD, so you think Berserk Dragon's D-Drawable and that Dark Deal, a Dark World support card from EEN packs will revive Berserk Dragons from the graveyard? since when is PoC on the limit list??? plasma and dogma are also nomis... your point is?? learn2play and learn tactics... Hmm, nvm, my bad. Could've sworn it was limited... Anyway...read the post, I clearly listed why Dogma and Plasma are better, D-Draw and the actual chance of being able to play them. Besides, it's not like Nomi Turbo's meta. What "tactics" can you use with Berserk Dragon that you can't use with Dogma and Plasma? your only point to put plasma and dogma over berserk dragon is destiny draw... so?? your REAL point is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 My "REAL point" is that Dogma and Plasma do everything Berserk Dragon could ever do, but also more, since they actually have good effects and can be D-Drawn, making Berserk Dragon utterly useless. Not to mention there are still tons of cards out there like DMOC, Dark Nephthys, Darklord Zerato, etc that also pwn this thing. Plasma and Dogma are just the easiest to obtain and can be used with 3 different 2-for-1 draw cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzumakinaruto93 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 My "REAL point" is that Dogma and Plasma do everything Berserk Dragon could ever do' date=' but also more, since they actually have good effects and can be D-Drawn, making Berserk Dragon utterly useless. Not to mention there are still tons of cards out there like DMOC, Dark Nephthys, Darklord Zerato, etc that also pwn this thing. Plasma and Dogma are just the easiest to obtain and can be used with 3 different 2-for-1 draw cards.[/quote'] y do we even try to convince you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yeah, since it takes longer to summon Plasma and Dogma than Berserk Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 ^ who is talking about summoning?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Oh yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Plasma and Dogma are just the easiest to obtain and can be used with 3 different 2-for-1 draw cards. Wut? Lrn2count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 badly worded card, berserk dragon can attack directly after it attacks all monsters on the field ( check yugioh wiki ) second bit of proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Plasma and Dogma are just the easiest to obtain and can be used with 3 different 2-for-1 draw cards. Wut? Lrn2count. Sorry, it's a typo, the 1 is next to the 2, so when I type quickly, it happens. I meant 2-for-2. Ad yes they work for 3 different ones; Allure, Trade-in, and Destiny Draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiro Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Plasma and Dogma are just the easiest to obtain and can be used with 3 different 2-for-1 draw cards. Wut? Lrn2count. Sorry' date=' it's a typo, the 1 is next to the 2, so when I type quickly, it happens. I meant 2-for-2. Ad yes they work for 3 different ones; Allure, Trade-in, and Destiny Draw.[/quote'] That's why I didn't underline the 3 in the quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yeah' date=' since it takes longer to summon Plasma and Dogma than Berserk Dragon.[/quote'] Not exactly... Summoning: Berserk Dragon: Tribute 2 monsters to summon a level 8, get it destroyed somehow and activate Deal of Dark Ruler. Tribute Fodder+Tribute Fodder+Level 8+ Deal of Dark Ruler=4 cards. Plasma: Activate Scapegoat on opponent's End Phase. Tribute 3 tokens for Plasma=1 card, OR tribute 3 monsters=3 cards, OR Fires of Doomsday on opponent's End Phase, sac Doomsday tokens + 1 monster=2 cards, or... Dogma: Pretty much the same, except the Scapegoat thing doesn't work and you'll need a D-Hero to sac. Drawing: Berserk Dragon: Allure of Darkness + Trade-InPlasma: Allure of Darkness + Trade-In + Destiny DrawDogma: Allure of Darkness + Trade-In + Destiny Draw Effect: Berserk Dragon: Attack all of opponent's monsters. (Considering how much Marshmallon, Spirit Reaper, Cyber Valley, and Swords are used...this isn't really going to help you all that much.) Also, as an extra treat, it loses 500 ATK each turn. SoRL=this at 2000 or less. Dogma: Halves your opponent's Life Points. 'Nuff said. -> Berserk. Plasma: One-sided Skill Drain, takes an opponent's monster out and gains half of its ATK. Not too shabby. This could be arguable, but I'd say it's equal to or greater than Berserk's effect. Orochi: You keep saying whoever said anything about summoning, but if you aren't summoning then Dogma and Plasma just plain win because of Destiny Draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yeah' date=' since it takes longer to summon Plasma and Dogma than Berserk Dragon.[/quote'] Not exactly... Summoning: Berserk Dragon: Tribute 2 monsters to summon a level 8, get it destroyed somehow and activate Deal of Dark Ruler. Tribute Fodder+Tribute Fodder+Level 8+ Deal of Dark Ruler=4 cards. Plasma: Activate Scapegoat on opponent's End Phase. Tribute 3 tokens for Plasma=1 card, OR tribute 3 monsters=3 cards, OR Fires of Doomsday on opponent's End Phase, sac Doomsday tokens + 1 monster=2 cards, or... Dogma: Pretty much the same, except the Scapegoat thing doesn't work and you'll need a D-Hero to sac. Drawing: Berserk Dragon: Allure of Darkness + Trade-InPlasma: Allure of Darkness + Trade-In + Destiny DrawDogma: Allure of Darkness + Trade-In + Destiny Draw Effect: Berserk Dragon: Attack all of opponent's monsters. (Considering how much Marshmallon, Spirit Reaper, Cyber Valley, and Swords are used...this isn't really going to help you all that much.) Also, as an extra treat, it loses 500 ATK each turn. SoRL=this at 2000 or less. Dogma: Halves your opponent's Life Points. 'Nuff said. -> Berserk. Plasma: One-sided Skill Drain, takes an opponent's monster out and gains half of its ATK. Not too shabby. This could be arguable, but I'd say it's equal to or greater than Berserk's effect. Orochi: You keep saying whoever said anything about summoning, but if you aren't summoning then Dogma and Plasma just plain win because of Destiny Draw. Just because Dogma and Plasma have more targets, doesn't mean that Berserk Dragon isn't worth playing. Especially in Rainbow Dark Turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 ^ i like this guy!! he got the memo!! also, the fact is: if i have to remove a monster to use PoC effect... which one would i remove?? from that point dogma has lose a point, plasma keep it and berserk dragon won a big one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Rainbow Dark Turbo isn't and never will be meta. But I've seen decks on metagame that ran 3 Dogmas and 3 Plasmas. Mostly Magical Explosion decks. It's not as if I'm biased towards D-Heroes. *Some guy points at name and avatar* Yep, not biased at all. XD Seriously though, I'm still not liking Berserk Dragon. Even in Rainbow Dark Turbo, I'd run Demise over this any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Rainbow Dark Turbo isn't and never will be meta. But I've seen decks on metagame that ran 3 Dogmas and 3 Plasmas. Mostly Magical Explosion decks. It's not as if I'm biased towards D-Heroes. *Some guy points at name and avatar* Yep' date=' not biased at all. XD Seriously though, I'm still not liking Berserk Dragon. Even in Rainbow Dark Turbo, I'd run Demise over this any day.[/quote'] I would still run Berserk Dragon. You need lots of Level 8 DARK Nomis for Rainbow Dark Turbo. And I never said anything about either Berserk Dragon OR RDT being meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Yes, but it's usually better to go for meta-esque things, since...well, they made the meta. Demise is a level 8 DARK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Bad card is bad. Too slow and hard to get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 wilson: Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Bad card is bad. Too slow and hard to get out. Have you actually read this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 For every use Berserk Dragon has, another card does it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson91 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 Lolfacepalm. I need me to get one of those. BD sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 For every use Berserk Dragon has' date=' another card does it better.[/quote'] If your running Rainbow dark turbo your need more monsters than demise, dogma and plasma. this provides another option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 What about Darklord Zerato, Sky Scourge Norleras, and the Dark Creator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted May 23, 2008 Report Share Posted May 23, 2008 ^those are nomis now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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