ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 but if it's determination then why do females do it less successfully than males? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 obvious. They probably have less will to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 you don't believe it's a matter of mind conflict? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 slightly yes. If you were going to kill yourself but didn't want to die, do you think you could go all the way and do something that is sure to kill you nomatter what, or take a gamble just incase you change your mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I'd say take a gamble. With males the mind for the most part is made up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 pretty much so. I am one of the few that would find it great to die, but i am afraid of death. So if the time ever game, i would do "the gamble". Other than that, i don't want to at the moment. I got too far in life and overcome too much crap to give up now. There are other people in the world that think otherwise and overlook all the good in their lives because of a imbalance of pressure and pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 You know I'm still not sure if the male population thinks it over more or less compared to the female population on the suicide before even attempting it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 sometimes it's just a raw impulse thing on garnering regret and pity from other people for the wrongs that were done to them. There are people like this out there that would take their life just to make a certain group of people feel bad for what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 but that applies to both males and females with the same impact (usually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 The only other thing i can think of as a response is gender-based horomones and what enzymes are pumping through the female/male brain at the moment when the time of dying has arrived, maybe testosterone has more of a adverse effect on suicidal thoughts and actions than estrogen does, which takes away the drive of wanting to die so badly...unfortunately i probably wouldn't understand neither world anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 it's something psychological which I don't understand either, I can only look at the statistics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 i didn't know there were statistics on female/male suicide success rates. People actually study that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 obviously, though I have yet to look online to see which sites have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 What does anything on this page have to do with if people have the right to suicide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 EVERYTHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 What does anything on this page have to do with if people have the right to suicide? the right to it is somewhat affected by a person's will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 anyone have a question to be answered about suicide? I have most of the answers you need. also to say about the female/male success rates: 10% for females succeeding, and 70-80% for males for succeeding.(I have done the math for averaging out the statistics) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
§hadow §triker Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Why not. They can do whatever they want with there life. No one can stop them. They can penalize or influence but not stop or control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 anyone have a question to be answered about suicide? I have most of the answers you need. also to say about the female/male success rates: 10% for females succeeding' date=' and 70-80% for males for succeeding.(I have done the math for averaging out the statistics)[/quote'] Interesting on the statistics. This now confirms their conflicted minds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 that is the suicide success rate, not the rate a passing schools/classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 I know that, and that is why I again ask you if this confirms mind conflicts during the attempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 actually it doesn't, because it only shows how many die when they commit suicide and die or fail, not what goes on in their minds. Here are some examples on what goes on in their minds:I have nothing else.I cant take it anymore.Nobody cares about me.Nobody needs my help.Nobody will help me.The pain is too hard to bare.No one believes me.No one listens to me.How about I show them how I felt in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 and how does suicide make the others feel what you felt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Prince_of_Death Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 It makes people feel they could have done something to prevent it. After someone realizes they pushed the person too far they feel sad enough to kill them selves or live with the guilt for the rest of their lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 that doesn't always work. Some will just say your will is far too weak and it's your own fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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