Sunshine Jesse Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 And here I am, still waiting on Prometheus's "article" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
六兆年と一夜物語 Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Well, in that case, Energy would be a god of Physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeligKicksAss Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 God is whatever you make it out to be. Yeah, I'm Catholic and I am damn proud. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Well' date=' in that case, Energy would be a god of Physics.[/quote'] I am assuming that you are replying to me, the only person who mentioned energy whatsoever. Physics is the study of laws that are believed to apply to reality. Energy is the manifestation of our universe. The light, heat, pressure, physical, nuclear and electromagnetic components of our universe are all created by systems of matter and energy. Matter, in nuclear fission, is turned into energy. All matter and energy are of the same essence. There may not be an objective form that any form of matter or energy can turn into at any given point, but it is all of the same manifestation. You can call the cumulative manifestation of the universe "god," but you cannot say that our universe is all knowing, conscious or judgmental. Energy is everything that exists (objective), everything that we can perceive to exist, and it creates everything that we can perceive to exist. Changes in energy is perceived by the human brain as time passing by. To deviate a bit from the current topic (somewhat): Energy is the "god" in this case, but there are forces which prevent chaos. Gravity and electromagnetic forces are obvious assumptions in this matter, but those "forces" are merely the nature of the particles which are affected by them; they are not outside of energy. The nature of cause and effect, that things will happen a certain way because the things that happened before it happened, is the nature of the universe itself. No matter what forces act upon other forces, the state of the forces (energy) in the perceived present moment, and in any moment at any point in time in the universe, determines how it will react to change if anything were to react with it. The state of all energy that exists was created by the changes that the energy had gone through; no energy in the universe is independent of the forces that act upon them. Thus, human free will does not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 all of you are wrong, clairex is god. being srs, i believe in a higher power, but not a living power. a strong pulse creating life, having energy be the god itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 all of you are wrong' date=' clairex is god. being srs, i believe in a higher power, but not a living power. a strong pulse creating life, having energy be the god itself.[/quote'] No. Perhaps; how separate would you consider this force from you and I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juuzou Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 all of you are wrong' date=' clairex is god. being srs, i believe in a higher power, but not a living power. a strong pulse creating life, having energy be the god itself.[/quote'] No. Perhaps; how separate would you consider this force from you and I? as in the force from human life itself? it doesn't live, and it generates life, while we just deliver the life it generates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 all of you are wrong' date=' clairex is god. being srs, i believe in a higher power, but not a living power. a strong pulse creating life, having energy be the god itself.[/quote'] No. Perhaps; how separate would you consider this force from you and I? as in the force from human life itself? it doesn't live, and it generates life, while we just deliver the life it generates I'm just wondering, what separates the life (us) created from the life (god) when we are of that which created us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Harper Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 actually god is the universe,its around us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 actually god is the universe' date='its around us all[/quote'] actually prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi :D Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 I assume he means that God, is the matter around us, and the matter that we are made up of.I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 I assume he means that God' date=' is the matter around us, and the matter that we are made up of.I am not sure.[/quote'] If you don't believe that any bit of that other than the system's of living organism's (humans, animals, etc..) exist as conscious structures, then I have no more question's or argument. Only the concept of god as a conscious being is disprovable and dismissible. Thanks to my experiences with hallucinogens, I know that you can't just assume sober logic to be the true way to understand human consciousness. In that state, there is a lot of spiritual experience (Try having your consciousness try to fold in on itself and bring itself to near oblivion), specifically around the area of consciousness, that screams in favor of the idea of the eternal soul and eternal god (but not a thinking god, just a manifestation of energy that perhaps amounts to everything that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshej Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 So much talk and so much ignorance... :( :( :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womi Posted August 21, 2009 Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 How many threads are you going to make about this? Physics are physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted August 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2009 How many threads are you going to make about this? Physics are physics. Reality is Reality.Don't try and look smart. If you can't play with metaphysics, and Potential Physics (for a lack of a better term) you aren't worth even debating with. Also, look at the date I posted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 S: (n) God, Supreme Being (the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions)S: (n) deity, divinity, god, immortal (any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force)S: (n) god (a man of such superior qualities that he seems like a deity to other people) "he was a god among men"S: (n) idol, graven image, god (a material effigy that is worshipped) "thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"; "money was his god" I suppose on a personal level, anything could be god. But by literal definition Energy isn't really a god. Unless you use the last definition, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chidori Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Energy is effectively matter, right? So, in the Qur'an, Holy Bible and Torah ect. it states that God is outside the world of matter. In the worlds God is between the 'sheets of matter'. Laws do not apply to Him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Womi Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 :/ Everything can be god. And the sad fact is: Some religions must be wrong. Because if there exist(s) (a) god/s, they can't be god of all religions.And to the primary question: Thats left to every single person. Whatever they want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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