[DISC] Tragoedia

[GenzoTheHarpist]

What I mean is that level tuning is far from it's most potent effect.

[Lazer Yoshi]

AWESOMENESS!

This is going in my Synchro Deck, and if I get more copies, Raviel Deck too...

Probably be banned/limited though.

[Phantom Roxas]

This card is unbelievably bad for the game. It counter-acts the central purpose of the game' date=' inflicting battle damage. It basically means that at any point towards the beginning of a game, your opponent cannot inflict battle damage to you because of the possible threat of this coming down.

 

That means they can't attack over your monsters. That means that you don't have to fear the consequences of leaving your field open. That means that the game is screwed up.

 

Even later in the game when it's attack isn't particularly significant (1800-), It still makes easy tribute fodder, easy Synchro fodder, and can generate additional tribute or synchro fodder by stealing your opponent's monsters. Also, even with only 1800 ATK, there are still plenty of things that this can run over.

 

I cannot begin to tell you guys how badly this card needs to not exist. You are unfortunately very mistaken in your evaluation of this card's potential, JoC.

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And DAD and JD are GOOD for the game?

[「tea.leaf」]

Practical.

[Psycho Shocker Android]

ITT: People overrated a balanced card.

 

Ummm no. While not as broken as gorz this card is wreaking havoc on the OCG scene.

 

-Easy sp summon.

-Steals monsters.

-Somewhat flexible stats for stuff like CCV.

-Adjustable level for syncro.

-Dark

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[.:pyramid:.]

This card is unbelievably bad for the game. It counter-acts the central purpose of the game' date=' inflicting battle damage. It basically means that at any point towards the beginning of a game, your opponent cannot inflict battle damage to you because of the possible threat of this coming down.

 

That means they can't attack over your monsters. That means that you don't have to fear the consequences of leaving your field open. That means that the game is screwed up.

 

Even later in the game when it's attack isn't particularly significant (1800-), It still makes easy tribute fodder, easy Synchro fodder, and can generate additional tribute or synchro fodder by stealing your opponent's monsters. Also, even with only 1800 ATK, there are still plenty of things that this can run over.

 

I cannot begin to tell you guys how badly this card needs to not exist. You are unfortunately very mistaken in your evaluation of this card's potential, JoC.

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And DAD and JD are GOOD for the game?

 

so what your saying is that we need more broken cards to combat the current broken cards in our card pool?

 

edit: and dad and jd are not good for the game but theirs a way of combating these cards without making other more broken cards

[The Dark One]

Dark Armed Dragon and Judgment Dragon have hugely overpowered effects, but the inherent nature of their effects is not so bad for the game that it cannot be allowed to exist. Levia Dragon Daedalus is a perfectly acceptable card that nukes the field, for example.

 

This card directly counteracts the purpose of the game, inflicting battle damage to your opponent until their LP are reduced to 0. Also, it becomes more effective the more cards you have in hand, which means it encourages minimal to no field presence.

 

In essence, like Gorz, this card punishes your opponent for playing well.

[Phantom Roxas]

Dark Armed Dragon and Judgment Dragon have hugely overpowered effects' date=' but the inherent nature of their effects is not so bad for the game that it cannot be allowed to exist. Levia Dragon Daedalus is a perfectly acceptable card that nukes the field, for example.

 

This card directly counteracts the purpose of the game, inflicting battle damage to your opponent until their LP are reduced to 0. Also, it becomes more effective the more cards you have in hand, which means it encourages minimal to no field presence.

 

In essence, like Gorz, this card punishes your opponent for playing well.

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Oh sure, they don't make Anime cards, but when it comes to the Manga, they HAVE to make them.

[Spiff!]

yeah.WE WANT THE SEAL!

Soul on Toast.it's what's for breakfast.

[werewolfjedi]

i attack your bigger monster with my mystic tomato, I take damage, I summon this big guy, and I summon out of my deck another monster, or not if yours was in DEF mode, but I still got Trag (copyright :)). I attack with his 2400 ATK sweetness and destroy your monster that I smashed my tomato on. and then to top it all off, i attack with the monster i pulled out of my deck, lets say it was don, so then I make you discard. end total (assuming it was a cydra or just as strong.), 1800 points of damage to you and the loss of one card. all for the small price of 700 life points. and I still have 4 cards in hand.

 

that is why he will be one of the most quickly banned cards I have seen recently, he is just too good for the cost to play him.

[Umbra]

Dark Armed Dragon and Judgment Dragon have hugely overpowered effects' date=' but the inherent nature of their effects is not so bad for the game that it cannot be allowed to exist. Levia Dragon Daedalus is a perfectly acceptable card that nukes the field, for example.

 

This card directly counteracts the purpose of the game, inflicting battle damage to your opponent until their LP are reduced to 0. Also, it becomes more effective the more cards you have in hand, which means it encourages minimal to no field presence.

 

In essence, like Gorz, this card punishes your opponent for playing well.

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Oh sure, they don't make Anime cards, but when it comes to the Manga, they HAVE to make them.

 

Gorz exists.

Traggy exists.

I don't see the relevance in your post.

[Exiro]

Also, this is a very decent beatstick in a deck that runs Oppression.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

i attack your bigger monster with my mystic tomato' date=' I take damage, I summon this big guy, and I summon out of my deck another monster, or not if yours was in DEF mode, but I still got Trag (copyright :)). I attack with his 2400 ATK sweetness and destroy your monster that I smashed my tomato on. and then to top it all off, i attack with the monster i pulled out of my deck, lets say it was don, so then I make you discard. end total (assuming it was a cydra or just as strong.), 1800 points of damage to you and the loss of one card. all for the small price of 700 life points. and I still have 4 cards in hand.

 

that is why he will be one of the most quickly banned cards I have seen recently, he is just too good for the cost to play him.

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Or you could even take control of Cyber and tribute for a monarch or something.

[werewolfjedi]

i attack your bigger monster with my mystic tomato' date=' I take damage, I summon this big guy, and I summon out of my deck another monster, or not if yours was in DEF mode, but I still got Trag (copyright :)). I attack with his 2400 ATK sweetness and destroy your monster that I smashed my tomato on. and then to top it all off, i attack with the monster i pulled out of my deck, lets say it was don, so then I make you discard. end total (assuming it was a cydra or just as strong.), 1800 points of damage to you and the loss of one card. all for the small price of 700 life points. and I still have 4 cards in hand.

 

that is why he will be one of the most quickly banned cards I have seen recently, he is just too good for the cost to play him.

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Or you could even take control of Cyber and tribute for a monarch or something.

 

which just proves my point even more.