Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Obviously, you must create an AMV, but there are certain things you must do: 1) The footage may be from anything, but please keep it PG-13. 2) The lyrics must also be at least PG-13. 3) Only three people may use the same song. 4) The AMV may be in two parts, but only if the actual song excedes ten minutes. 5) Beta's are allowed mid-contest, but you will need the whole thing by the end. 6) You may reserve an entry, but you have to say what song you plan to use as well as the footage. Rewards:1st Place: 3 Reps2nd Place: 2 Reps3rd Place: 1 Rep Judging Process:When you feel you've done enough work, you may post your video here. However, you must also confirm with me on YouTube that it is in fact your video. My YouTube account may be found here. There will be no gradimg scale, I will just decide which videos are the best, but any video uploaded before today will lose their chances of winning. If you wish to judge, PM me or post here. The contest ends on January 1st, but I will extend the deadline if need be. Contestants:BloodrunStrife52 Judges:RoxasCardAce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hmm, this sounds like fun.. I shall try and enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Alright, what song/Anime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Wait, they have to use video footage from a certain Anime(s)? You do know that that's illegal and violates 4kids' and the dubbers of all the other Anime's Copyright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dammit I already have 2 amvs of mine but I can't submit them cos they're the wrong anime >< I'll think about entering.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Wait' date=' they have to use video footage from a certain Anime(s)? You do know that that's illegal and violates 4kids' Copyright?[/quote'] Thankfully, 4Kids does not own Naruto, Bleach, Code Geass, or Kingdom Hearts. All of those have AMV's on YouTube are not taken down. You can credit the footage also. Dammit I already have 2 amvs of mine but I can't submit them cos they're the wrong anime >< I'll think about entering.. Hmm, what are the Anime's? I could let it slide if I like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Wait' date=' they have to use video footage from a certain Anime(s)? You do know that that's illegal and violates 4kids' Copyright?[/quote'] *Copies convo with Browa*[spoiler=Long]««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:It's amazing how YCM backs down from shitty little communites' Copyrights like dA ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:But not 4kids. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Or any other animes.Darth Browarod says:how does that violate copyright, though? I see videos on youtube all the time with spliced footage from animes played to songsDarth Browarod says:Star would link to them as background music for his fan fic frequently ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Yeah, it's illegal. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:I was looking on Wikipedia.Darth Browarod says:well, the wouldn't YGOTAS be illegal as well?Darth Browarod says:then* ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:And the owner said he wouldn't do an article or allow an article because it violate's 4kids' Copyright by using their matieral. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:On TAS* ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:I was looking under Yugioh at discussion and I saw the thing about YGOTAS.Darth Browarod says:meh, if you're taking it that literally then recording it on a VCR would be illegal as well ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:It uses 4kids' licensed video material without their permission, which is illegal.Darth Browarod says:see above ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:It's fine to do that as long as you don't sell the said VCR. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Or let anyone that doesn't pay their TV rights view it. o-oDarth Browarod says:you're not selling it when posting it on youtube... ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Yes. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:But USING the material without the permission of the copyright owner is illegal. o-o ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:No different to me buying the YGO DVD and uploading it onto YT. I'm no-one btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodrun Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dammit I already have 2 amvs of mine but I can't submit them cos they're the wrong anime >< I'll think about entering.. Hmm' date=' what are the Anime's? I could let it slide if I like them.[/quote'] No, biaseness >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Dammit I already have 2 amvs of mine but I can't submit them cos they're the wrong anime >< I'll think about entering.. Hmm' date=' what are the Anime's? I could let it slide if I like them.[/quote'] No, biaseness >_> Well, I could add make the Anime's he used legal for the contest if I like what they are. Of course, there is a certain AMV I want to see, and I doubt there aren't any Anime's I can think of that will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Well, one was Street Fighter Alpha, the other X, (IE the one by Clamp with Kamui, the guy in my DP, who we all know is the sexiest anime character alive ;D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Street Fighter? Sorry, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Forget street fighter, what about X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 [spoiler=Me & Darth continued]Darth Browarod says:but, isn't recording it on the VCR and then watching it at a later time/date "using the material without the permission of the copyright owner"? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:The difference is that you're not releasing it to the public ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Also, you don't have to pay to watch it on TV. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Whereas you DO need to pay for the DVD. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:The fact that you're using the Copyrighted video material without prior permission of the Copyright Owner is illegal. END OF DISCUSSION.Darth Browarod says:you're assuming that the footage was obtained from a bought source ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Well, yes. The only reason we're allowed to watch it on TV is because we pay for our licenses. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:The only other way to watch it is to buy it. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:The fact that you're using the Copyrighted video material without prior permission of the Copyright Owner is illegal. END OF DISCUSSION. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:^ NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.Darth Browarod says:I still don't get why one is illegal and the other is not ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Both are. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:You're allowed to record on VCR as long as you pay you're TV license.Darth Browarod says:what TV license? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:But you are not allowed to release that video to the public or sell it. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Everyone pays TV Licencing/Taxes. o-oDarth Browarod says:I don't think I do...Darth Browarod says:unless it's included in w/e taxes they take out of my paycheck ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Okay, the laws are different in the United States. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:HOWEVAR ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:You know why every tom dick and harry can't go and release dubs of anime? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Because they haven't paid for the license off of the original owner.Darth Browarod says:lol, yeah, I was gonna say, not in US ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:4kids or any other dubbing company have paid for the license to edit the said anime. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Have you got a license to edit the animes? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Have you paid the owner of the Anime to edit it and use their material? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Do you have permission to do so? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:NO.Darth Browarod says:omg, so I accidentally don't tape all of the show cuz my VCR is spotty, Iz being illegal for altering the anime!! ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:We're talking about two different things. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Ignore VCR's for two seconds, no-one uses those ancient things anyway. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:AgainDarth Browarod says:ok, DVR, but w/e ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Do you have a license to edit the anime and release it to the public? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Do you?Darth Browarod says:didn't know I needed one ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Have you paid the original owner? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Of course you doDarth Browarod says:and, that's not my point ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:That's why I haven't gone and released my own version of YugiohDarth Browarod says:obviously licensing is involved and required and crapDarth Browarod says:I get that ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Because it violates Copyright laws. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:It's ILLEGAL.Darth Browarod says:see above, I'm not doubting thatDarth Browarod says:but if I accidentally only get like 30 second or 1 minute sequences because my DVR decided to go caput, but they get mooshed next to each other in the memory, how can I help it if putting it to music makes a sweet vid? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Respected member of Wikipedia: This is a hard subject to cite. The series was started on the internet and is technically illegal, so getting "reliable" sources for it is difficult. Short of citing the episodes themselves, which are often deleted (as they are technically illegal), how can one go about proving its existence? If anyone has answers to these questions, please help out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.135.227.100 (talk) 02:03, 2008 August 7Darth Browarod says:see above scenarioDarth Browarod says:sure, it may be an illegal use of their material, but it was an accident ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:As long as you don't release it to the public, then that's fine. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:If you then went and posted it on YouTube, lets say. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Then it would be illegal.Darth Browarod says:so, I can't post it on my youtube for all my friends to see what sweet vid my DVR accidentally created? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:If it contained material that would normally have to be paid for, then yes. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:If the said material is Copyrighted, then yes.Darth Browarod says:but I did pay for it, I paid my TV license ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Eye, but some others may not have.Darth Browarod says:and all my friends have as well ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Okay ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:You wanna hear a story? ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:There's this guy that was on YouTube ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Named Rafeal. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:This guy upload every episode and movie of Pokémon to date. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:He even updated it as soon as a new episode came out. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:He got banned for YouTube, sued, and kicked out of his house due to lack of funds. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:from* ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:But surely this had nothing to do with the fact that he uploaded illegal videos?Darth Browarod says:meh, companies are all just bloodthirsty, selfish, money-hungry bastards ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:And hence why it is illegal. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Darth, I believe I've got you there. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:That scenario is exactly why I can't do the same for the contest.Darth Browarod says:it's illegal because the corrupt company heads have used their blood-soaked money to buy equally corrupt politicians ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:If you wish to put it that way; yes. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:I'm not saying I support the idea of it being illegal. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:I'm ALL for it not being. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:However, it is, and we have to abide by the laws.Darth Browarod says:especially for poor little Johnny in Podunkville who can't get cable out that far, and his local general store doesn't carry the dvdsDarth Browarod says:and all he has is mediocre internet connection ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:Again, this is off-topic. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:I don't support it.Darth Browarod says:lolDarth Browarod says:XDDarth Browarod says:I know it's illegal ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:What you're saying is true. ««•No-one Here! SAW Entertainment is being made!•»» says:W00tDarth Browarod says:I was just trying to see how many loopholes I could work into making it possibleDarth Browarod says:;) Again, I'm no-one. I believe this topic is promoting illegal material. Lock anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 ^ Stop Rulesharking >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Yeah, you never mentioned, in the PM asking where to post this, about what kind of AMV's you were wanting people to make. Brushfire is right about most of that stuff being copyrighted. I'm afraid you'll have to change the sources of your footage or else cancel the contest. Copyrights are copyrights whether it's DA art or TV animes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Uploading entire episodes of shows =/= Making AMV's. Darth Browarod himself approved this, so your entire argument is null and void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Yeah' date=' you never mentioned, in the PM asking where to post this, about what kind of contest it is. Brushfire is right about most of that stuff being copyrighted.[/quote'] Then why is this thread still open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Has anyone heard Queen II? I'd like to see a pair of AMV's featuring Schneizel to "White Queen (As It Began)" and Lelouch to "March of the Black Queen". But as usual, everything is ruined by the Rule Nazis invading Rule Poland and betraying Rule Russia who teams up with Rule Britain and Rule America to invade Rule Germany and maybe attack Rule Japan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Uploading entire episodes of shows =/= Making AMV's. Darth Browarod himself approved this' date=' so your entire argument is null and void.[/quote']Yeah, read my previous post. You didn't mention this much of it in the PM (that I remember). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushfire Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Uploading entire episodes of shows =/= Making AMV's. Darth Browarod himself approved this' date=' so your entire argument is null and void.[/quote'] Yeah' date=' you never mentioned, in the PM asking where to post this, about what kind of AMV's you were wanting people to make. Brushfire is right about most of that stuff being copyrighted. I'm afraid you'll have to change the sources of your footage or else cancel the contest. Copyrights are copyrights whether it's DA art or TV animes.[/quote'] I believe your source himself destroyed your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 But as usual' date=' everything is ruined by the Rule Nazis invading Rule Poland and betraying Rule Russia who teams up with Rule Britain and Rule America to invade Rule Germany and maybe attack Rule Japan...[/quote']Well, I'm Rule America, and Faint is Rule Britain, so who is everyone else? EDIT: Anyway, like I said, this contest is kinda bust with the whole copyright thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 But as usual' date=' everything is ruined by the Rule Nazis invading Rule Poland and betraying Rule Russia who teams up with Rule Britain and Rule America to invade Rule Germany and maybe attack Rule Japan...[/quote']Well, I'm Rule America, and Faint is Rule Britain, so who is everyone else? EDIT: Anyway, like I said, this contest is kinda bust with the whole copyright thing. Nononono, Faint is the Rule Nazis, this topic is Rule Poland, and... the United States of Japan protected by the Order of the Black Knights is Rule Japan. Also, I do know about Godwin's Law, before someone mentions it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 Yeah' date=' you never mentioned, in the PM asking where to post this, about what kind of AMV's you were wanting people to make. Brushfire is right about most of that stuff being copyrighted. I'm afraid you'll have to change the sources of your footage or else cancel the contest. Copyrights are copyrights whether it's DA art or TV animes.[/quote'] I merely said what the footage had to be of. How they acquire, I do not know. Perhaps they can use sites that are meant to upload Anime, such as AnimeKick? But as usual' date=' everything is ruined by the Rule Nazis invading Rule Poland and betraying Rule Russia who teams up with Rule Britain and Rule America to invade Rule Germany and maybe attack Rule Japan...[/quote'] Where do you come up with this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I merely said what the footage had to be of. How they acquire' date=' I do not know. Perhaps they can use sites that are meant to upload Anime, such as AnimeKick? Where do you come up with this stuff?[/quote']Unfortunately, that site is the same as Youtube in terms of copyright infringement. And, Crab is just awesome like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted November 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 How so? Like I said, AnimeKick is meant to upload Anime, whereas with YouTube, people choose to upload Anime. I made a topic about copyright, discuss things there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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