Guest Star Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I think we should take a look at Treeborn Frog. I mean, why exactly should it be limited anymore? I had an interesting conversation with someone on AIM. Chaos Kid 331 (8:14:19 PM): So Treeborn would be fine at 3?TheLeekMasta (8:15:06 PM): now? YeahTheLeekMasta (8:15:12 PM): with 3 Crows in the game?TheLeekMasta (8:15:13 PM): SureTheLeekMasta (8:15:32 PM): I never had a problem with 2 or 3 frogsTheLeekMasta (8:15:42 PM): well after we got Crow backTheLeekMasta (8:15:43 PM): XDTheLeekMasta (8:16:04 PM): it was kinda bad before thenChaos Kid 331 (8:16:13 PM): LolTheLeekMasta (8:16:16 PM): as in painful XD Taking his opinion into account, I think that Treeborn would be fine at 3 now. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 It could be abused with COSR horribly at three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 It could be abused with COSR horribly at three. *facepalm* I should just pretend that you didn't mean that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 It could be abused with COSR horribly at three. ... I still can't believe that this isn't the stupid post in this topic, and this post is incredibly damn stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekken Ham Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 It could be abused with COSR horribly at three. I should sig this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Which is easier? Dumping Froggy or searching for Crow? Suicide a Shriek and use Foolish Burial(This is one of many better ways to do this) and you got three of them already. And your opponent shouldn't be losing hand control just to get rid of cheap cards. Also, Imperial Iron Wall? It could be abused with COSR horribly at three. Samsara works great with Prime, you just need to set some traps to defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 treeborn at 3?? crow at 3 is not an excuse, is like saying "unban every broken card since solemn is at 3..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I find TheLeekMasta's chain of reasoning to be rather Farfetch'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I seriously lol'd when I read the first two posts. Like...Really? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 [sarcasm]I think it's so awesome that everyone provides reasoning for their answers.[/sarcasm] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I like how you respond to the people who do provide reasons! And I don't need a font effect to use sarcasm, I'm a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abstract [Atrocity] Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 no reason: D.3.S. frgo can have 3000 4000 ATKKKKKKKKkKKKkkKkkayKK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Saying that Treeborn can be at 3 because Crow is at 3 is like saying Monster Reborn can be at 3 because Crow is at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Counterability doesnt make a card balanced. Treeborn is bad enough at 1. Multiply that by 3, you get Tribute Summon whatever the hell you like with no real consequences. Infinite Tribute Fodder x3. I dont like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Yeah I screwed up. I always forget the restriction on Treeborn's summoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 [sarcasm]I think it's so awesome that everyone provides reasoning for their answers.[/sarcasm] We've already established this a million times. Just because a broken card can be countered doesn't mean it should be legal. Raigeki can be stopped by Anti Raigeki, Magic Jammer, Dark Bribe, Solemn Judgment, Magic Drain, Horus Lv 8, Natural Beast, and presumably a plethora of other cards I'm forgetting. That doesn't mean we'd be stupid enough to unlimit Raigeki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 arnt you only allowed i treeborn on the feild at a time? so why couldnt it be at 3 :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 thinking something should be unlimited just because another card can counter it is bad reasoning it's an infinite tribute fodder that's why it's limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemniscate Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 exactly, this card allows you to do whatever you want with no consequences. That's why it is and should stay banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 I think that Chaos Emperor Dragon should be at 3 because, you know, Solemn Judgment is at 3, and so is Horn of Heaven, and so is Divine Wrath, and so is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 arnt you only allowed i treeborn on the feild at a time? Interesting point' date=' and one that many people frequently overlook. However if you ever have 2 in the grave at once, even a well time D.D. Crow from your opponent won't do anything, because you still have one on the way. so why couldnt it be at 3 :S Because it shouldn't be at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Negafrog(Level 6/WATER/2800/0)[Aqua / Synchro / Effect]1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner "Frog" monstersIf this card is in either player's Extra Deck, Graveyard, on either side of the field, or is removed from play, both players may play up to 3 "Treeborn Frog" in their Main Deck or Side Deck, regardless of the position of "Treeborn Frog" on the Limited and Forbidden List AND the effects of all "Treeborn Frog" in both player's Graveyards and on either side of the field are negated. Once per turn, you may send 1 "Frog" monster from your Deck to the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your Graveyard. That would allow Frog to be at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 CED should be unbanned cuz we gotz Bottomoutless. ^_^ Treeborn stays at 1. PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Negafrog(Level 6/WATER/2800/0)[Aqua / Synchro / Effect]1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner "Frog" monstersIf this card isn't in your Extra Deck' date=' Graveyard, on the field, or removed from play, your Deck, field, hand, or Graveyard cannot contain "Treeborn Frog". If they do so, you lose the Match. While this card is in your Extra Deck, Graveyard, on the field, or is removed from play, negate the effect(s) of all "Treeborn Frog" in both player's Graveyards and fields. When this card attacks, you may send 1 "Frog" monster from your Deck to your Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your Graveyard. That would allow Frog to be at 3.[/quote'] How would the effect of a card that neither player is using be able to decide the match? >_> Also, this turns Treeborn Frog + Creature Swap into a 2-card match win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted November 21, 2008 Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Negafrog hurts my head. Besides, how would that be a 2-card match win? Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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