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I hope konami make an american extra pack (or two) with japanese only cards so we don't have to import cards. I also wouldn't want to have to explain darkness metal and white night every time I use them' date=' and have people not believe me.

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If Konami hasn't already done it, then why should we expect it to happen now?

 

And if your friends can't read a card's translated effect, then I really don't know what type of people play this game where you live...

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this could be the end of tgc as it merges with ocg. This could mean that their will be no more exclusives to tgc and ocg' date=' so hopefully the same meta. ( wishful thinking ). right yer iv heard of reginals being canceled, but i though it was just rumors.

 

the only reason i can think for this the have made this decision is that;

 

1 - ude are incompetent so they can't afford to damage their name and brand in a bigger market ( rest of the world tht is not ocg )

 

2 - kde are losing money fast, so by getting rid of the sub-contracting they assume they can do the job their self and are able to save money. i fear kde have don it for this reason, and will implement their production methods on a bigger scale, and because they have no experience in this market, it could go horribly wrong.

 

the end of tgc is nigh ( always like to end on a happy note )

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I think it's number 1. UDE is probably dragging KDE in a trainwreck. Rarity changes, printing TCG exclusives, not doing anything to get the OCG exclusives, Duel Terminal... they are killing this game. Just look at the other UDE card games they haven't last long. They should stick to printing hockey cards. (no pun intended)

 

Here you've done a nice job of showing why none of you people should have the right to talk about this - the worst of you people always manage to say stupid things, because you never bother to check your information.

 

Konami and UDE are working together to do what they can to bring Duel Terminals to the TCG regions; Japan only took to them so well because it, unlike other countries, enjoys an arcade game every once in a while. The US's arcade affinity is infantile in comparison.

 

UDE tries to get OCG exclusives all the time, as well; Konami dictates when they do and don't get them, and which ones they have access to. At the proper time, UDE's going to refuse getting an OCG exclusive brought here, if getting an exclusive would actually hurt sales; the first thing UDE tried for in negotiation for this year's tins was a set of exclusives. However, the strongest exclusive that they would have let UDE print would have been Battle Warrior; UDE effectively saw that no sane player would appreciate a Battle Warrior tin, and eschewed the opportunity to instead print what we have now.

 

The TCG exclusives were Konami's idea, as a way to attempt making up for all the red tape involved in getting OCG exclusives brought over here.

 

The rarity changes helped sell more product; for all the complaining you do, people more important than you obviously didn't care enough to put a bullet in the profits, ergo your complaining is worthless. It doesn't help your case that Konami actually ok'd the rarity changes - they saw that the OCG printing's rarities did not match how much selling power each card had in proportion to the rest of the set, ergo the rarity changes fixed that. If you're going to actually fault a business for doing what it needs to do to succeed as well as it possibly can, you have no place in any sort of discussion about these matters.

 

As for the other UDE games, the three Vs. System games aren't even close to death, WoW is somehow still alive although I never expected it to take off, and they're working on developing more games as well.

 

I'm well aware of all of that. However, as an end-user, I just the most bang for my buck, and if having my cards come from a multi-faceted entertainment corporation instead of a company that deals solely with card games and collectibles is going to deliver, I'd rather have that. I'm fully aware that this case, should UDE fail, would take away a large portion of UDE profits, but I'm afraid I don't really care. The frightening thing is not knowing what Konami will do with TCG after its acquired it. In any case, I doubt they'd make things much worse than UDE, so I welcome the shift.

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Things I expect to see when we go OCG:

 

1) That we get the same product release dates as in Japan

 

2) Card prices will take a huge nose dive

 

3) Card name changes (ex: Return Fairy-Type to Angel-Type monsters and Fiend-Type to Demon-Type monsters)

 

4) Japanese/Asian cards becoming legal for North American tourneys

 

5) Card Rarity changes

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It's most likely they will terminate TCG...

 

It is not a forgone conclusion. There is not even enough supporting evidence to say that it is "most likely" or "probable". In fact' date=' the wording of the announcement - saying that Konami was taking over the TCG, not that Konami was replacing the TCG with the OCG - seems to refute it. It is merely possible.

 

I mean, do we really need TCG in America? Why can't we get the same stuff at the same time as Japan does? Obviously, our cards will still be in English anyway.

 

Do you honestly believe that Konami just randomly decided that UDE shouldn't be allowed to release all of the OCG cards, and that releases should be vastly delayed? Do you also believe that this random decision will receive a random reversal purely because Konami has booted UDE out?

 

Both corporations together could easily have given identical card pools, release dates, rarities, and so on to both games. The choice to do so was deliberate, not a necessary side-effect of employing UDE.

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Things I expect to see when we go OCG:

 

1) That we get the same product release dates as in Japan

 

2) Card prices will take a huge nose dive

 

3) Card name changes (ex: Return Fairy-Type to Angel-Type monsters and Fiend-Type to Demon-Type monsters)

 

4) Japanese/Asian cards becoming legal for North American tourneys

 

5) Card Rarity changes

 

Do you realize that Konami is not likely to do any of that?

 

Or, more importantly, what information that's currently released led to you any of those conclusions?

 

Simultaneous release means you can't observe the popularity and effectiveness of cards. Without this information, rarity-change decisions would be nearly impossible to gauge (from the corporation's perspective, because we all know the guys that make this game can't play), and thus cards cannot be upgraded to higher rarities to promote sales. Konami isn't going to pull a stunt like this unless they want set their profits on fire, because everyone will be pulling their Common Plaguespreaders out of single packs instead of buying a box to pull it as an Ultra.

 

Thus, considering how simultaneous release is not likely to occur, that means rarity changes/deck modifications will happen as they have before. If this is the case, most likely, then card prices will remain as high as they ever have been, because Konami is never going to peel the holo off of Crush Card Virus and pack into deck and sell it in America. The lack of simultaneous release would also mean a constant gap between TCG and OCG, and because of that, cards would not be allowed to be used cross-boundary to maintain fairness.

 

Also, please note that even though Japan is not loaded with religious zealots, the rest of the world is. Unless Konami wants to a gun to its head, it's not going to revert back to Angels and Demons and Pentagrams and whatever other crap all those retarded Christians rage about. Massively conservative zealous parents massively influence their children's purchases; and if they see a drop of blood dripping off of the halo of some three-fourths-naked double-D chick nailed to a perpendicular set of sticks set in front of flaming star, you can bet your worthless empty skull that they're not going to buy that crap.

 

What the hell do you use your brain for anyway?

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That's what I'm hoping for...

 

When Konami was the one who decided when things got released in the TCG even before it took complete control, what makes you think it would be any different now?

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