GameFAQs versus YCM versus TCGPlayer

[CrabHelmet]

4Kids, as the name implies, is designed specifically to appeal to anime fanboys rather than to people who know how to play. Card creation, TCG playing, and gaming all require actual knowledge of some sort.

[Phantom Roxas]

I only use GameSpot for GameGAQs, and even then I don't use them for Yu-Gi-Oh! related stuff.

 

I don't go on TCGPlayer, so I don't have any real opinion of them.

 

I like it very much here at YCM.

[Fh-Fh]

Are there any Yu-Gi-Oh sites with only GOOD players?

 

If not only, then a majority of good players?

[Megaworm]

Well, all the good players go to this thread.

 

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-91750-page-2.html

[Chevalier]

Well' date=' all the good players go to this thread.

 

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-91750-page-2.html

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Trickery.

 

And yes, there's bunches of Forums with good players.

Fact: The more players you have the greater the chances of having bad players.

[Orochi]

pojo: just a bunch of trolls, usually nuuuuf and the quiff provides troll material for the n00bs, but they have good points sometimes...

 

TCGplayer: bad banlist discussions, they discuss the obvious with lame arguments... that and their mods wants e-tele banned and tsukuyomi back (BTW our friend spaulding was banned and only 2 n00bs claims for his return)

 

gameFAQS: i only read when someone post here a pill of stupidity from there... don't care at all to check there...

 

YCM: used to be average, almost good, but went down when 80% of the posts became "what crab said" posts... learn2think please...

 

 

all comments based on banlist discussions from pojo and TCG, and general YUGIOH discussion on YCM

[Tickle Me Emo]

Why am I always being overlooked?

 

Is it just because I don't waste my time debating the relative play-value of card board?

 

Because all the ass-kissers in this section only want Crab to notice them and to love them. They are so blinded by their own desire they might as well be noobs. Also if they mentioned you they would have to mention Exiro' date=' Atem (who is actually better than crab but crab's position makes him god), PikaPerson, Chaos Pudding, HORUS, JoC, Tabris, Psycho Shocker, Chevalier, etc.[/b']

 

.... *sadface*

[Megaworm]

haha, your name isn't on there.

[JesusofChaos™]

^Pointless Post

 

Lets have a look at this from a mathematical approach. And also bring in a bit of chemistry. The graph we look at is the boltzmann distrubition curve. Shown below is the distribution of kinetic energies of particles:

 

Now if we instead of picturing particles, picture people on forums on the x axis and knowledge of game on the y axis. So we get a graph like this:

 

Furthermore we can look at the activation energy and what it represents. In particles it is the minimum kinetic energy needed for a collision to cause a reation. Now if we relate this to a forum it could be said that it is the level of knowledge needed for the person to be recognised or be labelled a 'good player' by the rest of the forum. That being said we can deduce that a 'good player' is only considered good relative to the forum.

 

Finally if you look at the distribution we can say that most players fall in the middle of the graph. This is the normal average player and is the most common throughout the forum. At the 2 extremes we have a small number of players, this is our good and bad players. There are only a small number. In conculsion we can say that all forums have their good, bad and average players. We must judge how 'good' a forum is instead by how much knowledge a person has to be considered 'good' which at YCM im sad to say is very low.

[Jesus]

JoC, I concur that your graph is correct, but you're also forgetting the vast majority of YCM vs other forums. For example, let's say that for every 1 members that joins Pojo, we get 10 members. Unfortunately, we those 9 of those 10 players are remarkably bad at the game. 1 of those 10 players have extraordinary skill. If we each person who was actually good at the game, understood the metagame, and had general knowledge about how to run a deck, took 5 people who had no idea what they were doing, and trained them to understand the metagame, and be able to be good at the game, we would be byfar better then most Children's Card Game forums.

 

 

Because all the ass-kissers in this section only want Crab to notice them and to love them. They are so blinded by their own desire they might as well be noobs. Also if they mentioned you they would have to mention Exiro' date=' Atem (who is actually better than crab but crab's position makes him god), PikaPerson, Chaos Pudding, HORUS, JoC, Tabris, Psycho Shocker, Chevalier, etc.[/b']

 

.... *sadface*

 

*cries*

[JesusofChaos™]

JoC' date=' I concur that your graph is correct, but you're also forgetting the vast majority of YCM vs other forums. For example, let's say that for every 1 members that joins Pojo, we get 10 members. Unfortunately, we those 9 of those 10 players are remarkably bad at the game. 1 of those 10 players have extraordinary skill. If we each person who was actually good at the game, understood the metagame, and had general knowledge about how to run a deck, took 5 people who had no idea what they were doing, and trained them to understand the metagame, and be able to be good at the game, we would be byfar better then most Children's Card Game forums.

[/quote']

 

Yes but still there will be people at the extremes. Even though they may have a high knowledge of the game, the may not have high knowledge relative to the rest of the forum. Thus they will at the lower end of the distribution. Thus we must look at the level which we consider someone to be a good player

[Fh-Fh]

Stuff about Yu-Gi-Oh and Kinetic Energy

 

Actually, the only reason I didn't pick them is because I forgot about them.

[iAmNateXero]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know, what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[Jesus]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[/quote']

 

Being 'bad' at the game can be defined as making stupid choices within gameplay, and running certain cards (I.E, Stop Defense) that have nothing to do with your deck. Even worse cases pertain to running 50+ card decks.

 

IMO, as long as you understand what you're talking about, the only thing that's really holding you back from being extremely good is your lack of determination, time, and above all, money. Let's face it -- The more money you have, the better you are at this game.

[CrabHelmet]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

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I love how Nate assumes that all bad players are secretly geniuses but just don't get the respect they deserve. Then again, I suppose he needs to tell himself that to avoid crying himself to sleep each night.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

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I love how Nate assumes that all bad players are secretly geniuses but just don't get the respect they deserve. Then again, I suppose he needs to tell himself that to avoid crying himself to sleep each night.

People cry themselves to sleep for being bad at card games?

[Megaworm]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[/quote']

 

I love how Nate assumes that all bad players are secretly geniuses but just don't get the respect they deserve. Then again, I suppose he needs to tell himself that to avoid crying himself to sleep each night.

People cry themselves to sleep for being bad at card games?

i used to, back when i was a nooblette. I always cried myself to sleep after slitting my wrists, tearing up my dresses and throwing away all of my cards. But then i took them out of the garbage and hugged them because they were the only friends i had...

[iAmNateXero]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[/quote']

 

Being 'bad' at the game can be defined as making stupid choices within gameplay, and running certain cards (I.E, Stop Defense) that have nothing to do with your deck. Even worse cases pertain to running 50+ card decks.

 

IMO, as long as you understand what you're talking about, the only thing that's really holding you back from being extremely good is your lack of determination, time, and above all, money. Let's face it -- The more money you have, the better you are at this game.

I can honestly say money isn't a factor in wether your bad at this game or not. I own a TeleDAD Deck, but im still considered a bad player by most in the forums, so what else is there?

 

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[/quote']

 

I love how Nate assumes that all bad players are secretly geniuses but just don't get the respect they deserve. Then again, I suppose he needs to tell himself that to avoid crying himself to sleep each night.

 

Again, crab avoids the seriousness of the question so he can sleep soundly asleep at night. I assume nothing when I asked this question. I only want to know how each individual grades the "Bad" in "Bad Player."

[Megaworm]

Elite Players - These legendary players rape the meta with expensive cards and are unparalleled in power and knowledge of the game....they are like The Seal Of Orichalcos.

 

Top-of-the-line Players - Think outside of the box and use extremely competitive decks that rival the powers of the Elite Players but all in all, have less experience than the Elite Players. They are in a way, Judgment Dragon and Dark Armed Dragon, even if they don't use those cards.

 

Good Players - Players that do not dominate the Meta, but invest immense energy and knowledge into the game, and as a reward, are gifted with wins and respect. They are like Raigeki or Chaos Emperor Dragon.

 

Good-Enough Players - Players that are in the same league as the Good Players but are not financially supported enough to afford or lucky enough to obtain some of the great cards that will bolster them to awesomeness. They are Breaker The Magical Warrior of the players.

 

Average Players - The few people that are good enough to understand the rules and claim many wins, but are not at a high enough level to dominate anything. They play with extremely-agressive Structure Decks as an example. They are the Mystical Space Typhoon of the game world.

 

Meh Players - Players that can play the game correctly but are in no way, shape, or form, formidable. They pull off combos that are intimidating but are very lackluster. They are the Level 4 1900 ATK Beatsticks of the game world.

 

Bad Players - New arrivals to the game. They do not know all the rules of the game, and might, if not always, be very aggravating to play with. With a few more better cards and wins under the belt, they may have hope. They are the Man-Eater Bugs of the game world.

 

Retards - n00bs in the highest sense, they started the game like a braindead monkey and play it like a dead braindead monkey. These players have no hope at all and will never get good at the game. They are the Fungi Of The Musks in comparison to a card.

[iAmNateXero]

Megaworm, do you have a Twin that your mom forces you to allow onto the computer every Hour or so, or do you only act like you got no damn seance every once in a while to deter from actually typing meaning full things half the time?

[CrabHelmet]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[/quote']

 

I love how Nate assumes that all bad players are secretly geniuses but just don't get the respect they deserve. Then again, I suppose he needs to tell himself that to avoid crying himself to sleep each night.

 

Again, crab avoids the seriousness of the question so he can sleep soundly asleep at night. I assume nothing when I asked this question. I only want to know how each individual grades the "Bad" in "Bad Player."

 

Your question had such laughably false premises that there was no "seriousness" to avoid.

[JesusofChaos™]

Stuff about Yu-Gi-Oh and Kinetic Energy

 

Actually' date=' the only reason I didn't pick them is because I forgot about them.

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2IlHgbOWj4o

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

Im glad this topic came up. I would just like to know' date=' what exactly makes you a bad player? Is it when people from the interwebs tell you a bad player, when you know what your trying to say, but just can't type it out, is it when you actually do well in tournaments and other public events, but seem to always loose in those MSN/IM duels, or does actual playing of the game take place somewhere many of us don't know about?

[/quote']

 

 

I love how Nate assumes that all bad players are secretly geniuses but just don't get the respect they deserve. Then again, I suppose he needs to tell himself that to avoid crying himself to sleep each night.

 

Again, crab avoids the seriousness of the question so he can sleep soundly asleep at night. I assume nothing when I asked this question. I only want to know how each individual grades the "Bad" in "Bad Player."

Then why was it that in both your examples the player wasn't actually bad but not getting the respect he deserves due to odd scenarios?

[iAmNateXero]

What do you mean? He/She is bad because people said he/she was bad. And He/She is bad because nobody understands what he/she is trying to say. I made reference to the people who can't speak English and try to post on the forums. I know we have examples all around the TCG section where people are constantly screaming "Use English.... NOA!"

 

I was referring to the general Nature of the YCM towards not so Literate posters, and lack of understanding to the Human Nature and Human understandings.

 

Itt: Rudeness before Morals.

[CrabHelmet]

And He/She is bad because nobody understands what he/she is trying to say.

 

This is your underlying assumption: that all bad players only seem bad because English is their second language and that the world cannot understand their secret genius.

 

Your premise is false; ergo, your "argument" is false.

 

Also, I can read your posts perfectly, but you still suck at this game.