GenzoTheHarpist Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Would be acceptable if you made paying life points an effect' date=' rather than a cost?[/quote'] That would maybe leave it open to being exploited by things like Prime Material Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiz Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Only way that card would be legal, over its Premature Burial counterpart is; Premature Funeral [Equip Spell]Divide your Life Points by 0. Select 1 monster from your Graveyard. Special Summon it to the field in face-up Attack Position' date=' and equip it with this card. When this card is destroyed, destroy the equipped monster.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skuldur Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Premature FuneralEquip SpellThis card can only be activated if you control no face-up Spell or Trap Cards. Pay 4000 Life Points. Special Summon 1 monster in your Graveyard and equip it with this card. If the equipped monster is removed from the field' date=' destroy this card. If this card is removed from the field, destroy the equipped monster.[/quote'] 4000 instead of 5000, 4000 means they can't use it again with Arms Hole and they have 4000 LP left, 5000 is just a little too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 There is no value to x. It depends what format the card is put in. For example what the card can be exploited with and what other generic revial is avaliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 we shouldnt be looking at just what the lp cost should be, we should be looking at what type of cost is needed to stop this card being generic revival, when we could use a different type of cost (e.g mill, discard, remove from your side of the field, ect.) its useless to put a lp cost on this card because in this meta we are willing to pay have of our current lp to negate one of your opponents cards. resulting in people now being affected by the cost. so if their has a lp cost i would have to have a set value i would set it at 4100, because it would enable only 1 decked generally because if you want mass revival with this card you would have to deck spell economics, and use Thought Ruler Archfiend a lot more over stardust dragon, also this cost would be good for the meta game because the more people who use this card, the more burn decks become effective. or even do that they did with the six sam series http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Backs_to_the_Wall and then set their lp to a set amount after the card was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chaos Pudding Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Premature FuneralEquip SpellThis card can only be activated if you control no face-up Spell or Trap Cards. Pay 4000 Life Points. Special Summon 1 monster in your Graveyard and equip it with this card. If the equipped monster is removed from the field' date=' destroy this card. If this card is removed from the field, destroy the equipped monster.[/quote'] 4000 instead of 5000, 4000 means they can't use it again with Arms Hole and they have 4000 LP left, 5000 is just a little too much. Why is 5000 too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 4000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I'd make it like Destiny Hero Dogma, as it isn't Damage (is it?),Unaffected by Prime Material Dragon, and it isn't a cost, Unaffected by Spell Economics Premature Funeral[Equip Spell]Halve your Life Points. Select 1 monster from your Graveyard. Special Summon it to the field in face-up Attack Position, and equip it with this card. When this card is destroyed, destroy the equipped monster. maybe im wrong about dogma. Personally, id either go with 4000 or this^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Halve means that it can still be used whenever. Heck, it can be used at 800 or less, something Premature Burial doesn't have going for it. <_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I say 1500 would be ok. Maybe 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SephirothKirby Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 What if ... What if it said "When this card is removed from the field, destroy the equipped monster."? Or what if you didn't pay anything, and you just discarded a card? With a cost of 4,000, I would run an Infinite Life Points deck with the strongest Special Summonable monster I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 There is no correct Amount of life points that will fix the problem that is within this card. The entire card itself would have to be changed for it to be balanced. I don't belive Premature burial was Banned for its cost, but more of its "Continuous Nature" It being an equip was the reason for its banning. This card shares the same fate. Honestly this card would be fine at "Pay 800 Lp" as long as it was a Quick play spell card with restrictions like "Destroy on your 2nd Standby Phase after activating." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 3500 Life Points. You'd only be able to activate it twice, so it can't loop by itself without Spell Economics. (Who play that?) Moreover, if you were playing badly, you might never be able to set it off at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 urrrm the origonal attack for the monster your reborning? I like this answer most so thus im gonna take it =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangePeel Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Paying a high amount of life points may detour some from using it, but other as said in previous post will gain more life point or easier yet play Spell Economics. So perhaps the best solution to balancing it out would be to lose some card advantage. Paying 1 card would balance it out, but is discarding 1 card going to keep it to easy for loops like that if you think so make the person discard 2 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 There is no Life Point cost that could make this card balanced. The ability to re-use it with Brionac and Arms Hole makes it too powerful to keep unbanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Half your life point's don't work since you can still otk easily (it's possible with 100 lp). Something like 1500, see autonomous action unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docomodake Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 OVER 9000 I think, if at 1 or 2, 2k-3k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 0 Life Points. nomatter what cost this card is going to be banned just like Premature Burial, we might as well make it a full fledged broken card like Megamorph or Trimorphic Rape Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 What if ... What if it said "When this card is removed from the field' date=' destroy the equipped monster."? Or what if you didn't pay anything, and you just discarded a card? With a cost of 4,000, I would run an Infinite Life Points deck with the strongest Special Summonable monster I can think of.[/quote']That would still involve more cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Might be okay with a discard or tribute cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 Meh, tribute a Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 x=0.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megaworm Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 or better yet, if you have a face-up Larvae Moth on the field you can use this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I'd say 3000. "Half of your LP" means nothin', as Return from the Different Dimension and Megamorph have proved. Any number below 3000 could be shrugged off the same way Demise, King of Armageddon and Dimension Fusion's costs were shrugged off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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