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Oh please' date=' you are so full of crap it is coming out of your mouth.......

You have created this little egotistcal complex and it has made you a bit of a tyrant, people are actually afraid of you....but why should they? Ur just a 16 year old girl who has a large obsession with Larxene and being perfect.

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The fact that they fear me is actually pretty funny. I just go along with it.

 

Besides, I'm far too lazy to try and be perfect.

 

Haha Claire.

You don't manipulate' date=' you watch and pick.

And hope for the ego's of members to rise enough to where you can bark at them for what to do... Lazy manipulation.

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I go for a more indirect approach. As lazy as I may be, I still get people to do what I want.

 

 

Ugh.....just you wait Claire, soon your mirror will shatter and your spell will be broken. Then you will be too Lazy to change anything about it.....

 

So I won't be able to look at my reflection?

 

Oh noez! =o

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Oh please' date=' you are so full of crap it is coming out of your mouth.......

You have created this little egotistcal complex and it has made you a bit of a tyrant, people are actually afraid of you....but why should they? Ur just a 16 year old girl who has a large obsession with Larxene and being perfect.

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The fact that they fear me is actually pretty funny. I just go along with it.

 

Besides, I'm far too lazy to try and be perfect.

 

Haha Claire.

You don't manipulate' date=' you watch and pick.

And hope for the ego's of members to rise enough to where you can bark at them for what to do... Lazy manipulation.

[/quote']

 

I go for a more indirect approach. As lazy as I may be, I still get people to do what I want.

 

 

Ugh.....just you wait Claire, soon your mirror will shatter and your spell will be broken. Then you will be too Lazy to change anything about it.....

 

So I won't be able to look at my reflection?

 

Oh noez! =o

 

Fool........... all your treachery will fall upon you in time, and not even a pretty face or a stuck up attitude will be able to save you then.

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Fool........... all your treachery will fall upon you in time' date=' and not even a pretty face or a stuck up attitude will be able to save you then.

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Saved from what exactly?

 

It's the internet.

 

I'm just saying this,

 

Don't bite off what you can't chew, because payback can be a b!tch.

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Fool........... all your treachery will fall upon you in time' date=' and not even a pretty face or a stuck up attitude will be able to save you then.

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Saved from what exactly?

 

It's the internet.

 

I'm just saying this,

 

Don't bite off what you can't chew, because payback can be a b!tch.

 

Payback on the internet? I'm so scared.

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I never said I was abusing Freedom. I said you cannot stop the abusive nature of Freedom.

 

you are abusing freedom. in he most horrible way. you are taking freedom and abusing it right in front of the people who crafted this forum themselves.

 

'We' is you speaking for the majority. You cannot speak for the majority just because you get a premature sense of hope in doing so. No' date=' the majority isn't behind you. And no; the majority won't change. Will is a concept used in a pre-determined sense. If you don't know the outcome, you cannot claim to know what will happen. What probably will happen, however, is this thread will get locked, messages will be forgotten; and people will go back to being people. It's that; that you cannot change.

 

[b']you misread my words, 'we' meaning the few people who care about this site and are here to change it. do you see the majority approving of this truly? no, most people put a smile on their face and leave not learning anything. i am one of the three or so people who actually care that this site becomes different. and even if the thread gets locked, even if it becomes forgotten, it will be made again, and remembered by another member. it will happen again, and will eventually make a difference.[/b]

 

Flame to constructive criticism? Is that all you're seeing? You have excercised nothing. You have only decided that this has been spear-headed by someone who claims to know what's best, and that you're doing what's best by following the delusion. I myself find more satisfaction in defending my own opinion vividly than charading myself into loving thy neighbor. What now? Someone who isn't under your banner of 'we', someone who doesn't approve of the sub-par bullshit you're whining about? For christ sake. It's the Internet. Get a thick skin or gtfo.

 

It is obvious that this may not be the best decision, but that i am choosing a side that i feel is the best, and not the side that has the best odds of winning. Your opinion consists of a mildly spammy and flaming world that gets worse and worse as long as people have something to degrade so they can make themselves look better. my opinion consists of a world where people can help others and not get flamed when trying something new. i wonder what you think of your own opinion now?

 

You trust. You believe. You hope. You take no independent recourse nor contribute anything towards the result besides your approval. You're the worst kind of thing when it comes to change. You're the fat-guy in the lawn chair; watching everything change around him while he smiles in approval at it. And then, he retreats into his house only to continue as he was before. You're a free-loader. You conform based upon who's name or title it is, not the words they say. As such; I doubt any change, nor hope in change, can come from you.

 

but i do. i defend this idea. i support and try to make this come together. i will pass this on to other people. this might make me the "fat guy in the lawn chair" who happens to call his friends about the idea, but i make part of a little difference, which is enough for me. why do you choose sides simply because they have better odds, even though they do not lead to the better solution?

 

People don't get it. Change is an improbable practice when the majority is already the opposite. Sure; you can charade the success of change for a while; but people conform back to how they were before. They always do.

 

That, and I approve of Shanoa. She doesn't give a sh-t; which, in my mind, is one of the best things you can do.

 

Change may very well be an improbable practice, depending on whether the people of YCM choose to make this come alive, and it may very well change back, but it will happen again, and again, until it says for real. that is the truth

 

yet Shanoa is the "lawn chair person" you described. manipulating people for her own will and doing nothing herself. giving her approval of what her minions do and nothing else. so if i am the "lawn chair person" i am also doing one of the best things you can do, yet you despise it?

 

and, for pure comical humor: Shanoa, please don't hurt me

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Someone's been watching too many movies.

If there was no peace, this would be stone age times.

With no peace, we are no better than the lowest class of opposable-thumbed primate. Because of peace, we have matured beyond that stage.

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Someone's been watching too many movies.

If there was no peace' date=' this would be stone age times.

With no peace, we are no better than the lowest class of opposable-thumbed primate. Because of peace, we have matured beyond that stage.

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I didn't say that we aren't currently living in peace

 

I said peace is boring... peace gets no one anywhere in life

 

This is why we still have wars

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Epic f***ing win.

 

Conflict is far more interesting to watch than a group of people agreeing with each other.

 

so you...

 

normally i would say something about you here, but this is a thread about lightening up, not peace. there can still be arguments, just not in the form of flaming

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Someone's been watching too many movies.

If there was no peace' date=' this would be stone age times.

With no peace, we are no better than the lowest class of opposable-thumbed primate. Because of peace, we have matured beyond that stage.

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I didn't say that we aren't currently living in peace

 

I said peace is boring... peace gets no one anywhere in life

 

This is why we still have wars

 

We don't have wars because peace is boring. We have wars because we disagree.

Peace, while maybe boring, is better than the alternative any day.

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Epic f***ing win.

 

Conflict is far more interesting to watch than a group of people agreeing with each other.

 

so you...

 

normally i would say something about you here' date=' but this is a thread about lightening up, not peace. there can still be arguments, just not in the form of flaming

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Oh, I see nothing wrong with lightening up. =)

 

In fact, I rarely get mad. I can keep calm during an argument, which typically drives the other person mad.

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Epic f***ing win.

 

Conflict is far more interesting to watch than a group of people agreeing with each other.

 

so you...

 

normally i would say something about you here' date=' but this is a thread about lightening up, not peace. there can still be arguments, just not in the form of flaming

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Oh, I see nothing wrong with lightening up. =)

 

In fact, I rarely get mad. I can keep calm during an argument, which typically drives the other person mad.

 

best way to win an argument. people can become so mad that their ignorance clouds them from calm judgement

 

Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

I have to agree there but I still think that YCM has been getting more angery people using this as a vent rather than a place to have fun.

 

i used to be angry, but i changed and help this place grow, even if only a little.

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If no one gave a sh-t, nothing would get done.

And while I agree that Arguments > Peace. There must be some form of piece or this forum wouldn't be as it is. Where people can get along well...

 

So I'm going for the optimistic look on all this.

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Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Because Arguments > Peace

 

Peace is boring

 

This is why the world can't live in peace

 

Epic f***ing win.

 

Conflict is far more interesting to watch than a group of people agreeing with each other.

 

so you...

 

normally i would say something about you here' date=' but this is a thread about lightening up, not peace. there can still be arguments, just not in the form of flaming

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Oh, I see nothing wrong with lightening up. =)

 

In fact, I rarely get mad. I can keep calm during an argument, which typically drives the other person mad.

 

Hey, I can do that too!

 

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I never said I was abusing Freedom. I said you cannot stop the abusive nature of Freedom.

 

you are abusing freedom. in he most horrible way. you are taking freedom and abusing it right in front of the people who crafted this forum themselves.

 

The hell? So' date=' by your logic; speaking about the abusive nature of something is the same as abusing it? That argument was one of desperation, and fortunately enough; made no sense.[/i']

 

'We' is you speaking for the majority. You cannot speak for the majority just because you get a premature sense of hope in doing so. No, the majority isn't behind you. And no; the majority won't change. Will is a concept used in a pre-determined sense. If you don't know the outcome, you cannot claim to know what will happen. What probably will happen, however, is this thread will get locked, messages will be forgotten; and people will go back to being people. It's that; that you cannot change.

 

you misread my words, 'we' meaning the few people who care about this site and are here to change it. do you see the majority approving of this truly? no, most people put a smile on their face and leave not learning anything. i am one of the three or so people who actually care that this site becomes different. and even if the thread gets locked, even if it becomes forgotten, it will be made again, and remembered by another member. it will happen again, and will eventually make a difference.

 

Few people. When can a few people bring change? The only thing a few people can do in order to bring change is to recruit new people. I highly doubt starting a rebellion for change on a Yu-Gi-Oh! forum is going to do so. Plus; on your little "If we do it enough, someone will care." thing, all I have to say is Draco Straybyrn.

 

Flame to constructive criticism? Is that all you're seeing? You have excercised nothing. You have only decided that this has been spear-headed by someone who claims to know what's best, and that you're doing what's best by following the delusion. I myself find more satisfaction in defending my own opinion vividly than charading myself into loving thy neighbor. What now? Someone who isn't under your banner of 'we', someone who doesn't approve of the sub-par bullshit you're whining about? For christ sake. It's the Internet. Get a thick skin or gtfo.

 

It is obvious that this may not be the best decision, but that i am choosing a side that i feel is the best, and not the side that has the best odds of winning. Your opinion consists of a mildly spammy and flaming world that gets worse and worse as long as people have something to degrade so they can make themselves look better. my opinion consists of a world where people can help others and not get flamed when trying something new. i wonder what you think of your own opinion now?

 

You assumed my opinion. If you actually read in detail, I never stated my favorable outcome. My outcome is one were people don't disagree; were people appreciate what's there and choose to not strike the Forum for what's not. Mediocrity; I guess. Being contempt. Being blissful for what the Forum is, not for who it has. Spam? Who gives a sheet. Ignore it. Flaming? If done so intelligently; it's not unbearable to watch. Your opinion is a fairytale look that's somewhat similar to what your parents told you the Real-World is like when you're six years old. People don't help people. People strive for self-betterment. The only time people help people is when self-betterment is a directly result of which. So, I say, what do you think of your opinion now, knowing it is indeed unobtainable?

 

You trust. You believe. You hope. You take no independent recourse nor contribute anything towards the result besides your approval. You're the worst kind of thing when it comes to change. You're the fat-guy in the lawn chair; watching everything change around him while he smiles in approval at it. And then, he retreats into his house only to continue as he was before. You're a free-loader. You conform based upon who's name or title it is, not the words they say. As such; I doubt any change, nor hope in change, can come from you.

 

but i do. i defend this idea. i support and try to make this come together. i will pass this on to other people. this might make me the "fat guy in the lawn chair" who happens to call his friends about the idea, but i make part of a little difference, which is enough for me. why do you choose sides simply because they have better odds, even though they do not lead to the better solution?

 

Will pass this on to other people? What are you trying to make of attitudes on a Forum? They're mere, minor and barely account to anything. However, when it comes to your opinion of myself choosing a winner outside of a moral sense; I'll tell you again that my ideal outcome is a positive one. However; I was expressing that you cannot control freedom. You cannot control others to conform to your way. Doing so is both funked and unlikely.

 

Change may very well be an improbable practice, depending on whether the people of YCM choose to make this come alive, and it may very well change back, but it will happen again, and again, until it says for real. that is the truth

 

That isn't the truth. The improbability of change comes from how you cannot direct it. The result of change isn't predictable. Saying that it'll be one thing and then another continuously is wrong.

 

yet Shanoa is the "lawn chair person" you described.

 

The lawn-chair person admires change. Rather sure if change were to happen; she'd be to busy playing video-games or something.

 

manipulating people for her own will and doing nothing herself. giving her approval of what her minions do and nothing else. so if i am the "lawn chair person" i am also doing one of the best things you can do, yet you despise it?

 

Best things you can do? Describe how in arguing with me you're doing something of greatness. Please. Share. Also; people allow themselves to be manipulated. As I said before, Freedom cannot be controlled. Manipulation comes from people willing to appose that. Not the manipulator, mind you, but the manipulated.

 

and, for pure comical humor: Shanoa, please don't hurt me

 

Her words sting? Wow. You pussy.

 

You're arguing on a chain of morals and hope. Unfortunately enough; both don't logically succeed.

 

=\.

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