OMGAKITTY Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 ...yeah. Stupid contest.... I try very hard to avoid making cards belonging to already-set Archetypes, because it's so much work on me... -___-'' (I had to actually go do...research on E Heroes! D: ) And even now, I'm not sure how well I did. I know there's tremendous support out there for these guys (at least according to yugioh.wikia >_> )So I think I may have OP'd him. Well? What are you waiting for? Tell me what's wrong with it already! :PEDIT: slightly edited for more balance...maybe.EDIT2: Fixed again..?EDIT3: I think I'll start keeping track of what I do to this guy...-nerfed ATK-changed Hero Counter conditionAgain, I'd like to thank you all for helping me out here. Now stop reading this and tell me what else to change. :PEDIT 4:-Scrapped the original Hero Counter idea, created a new (hopefully more balanced) one.This stupid card is probably going to cost me the contest....sigh...Well, get to work minions, and tell me what to fix.EDIT 5:-got rid of the "obnoxious nomi-ness", as requested by Tabris.-Changed the summoning conditions to compensate-nerfed the ATK a smidge again.I got pretty much until tomorrow to submit this card. So help nao, pl0x. FINAL EDIT: Yeah, I'm done with this garbage. Win or lose, I'm turning this in....-______-And I'm giving +reps to [Demonic Queen], Sleepy, and Tabris for the help. This card gains 100 ATK for each "Elemental Hero" monster in your Graveyard. As long as this card remains on the field, "Elemental Hero" cards cannot be destroyed by battle (excluding any "Elemental Hero Sabre"). When this card destroys a monster by battle, put 1 Hero Counter on this card. You can remove 2 Hero Counters to draw 1 card. If the card is not a "Elemental Hero" monster, discard it. http://gaudiamo.deviantart.com/art/Metal-hero-4251258 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
【Demonic Queen】 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Yeah your right I think for a E-Hero card this is way to over powered.Seriously if you use it with stratos then you would be able to Special Summon it three times.Because every time it get destroyed stratos can pick an other one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 What would you suggest for balancing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
【Demonic Queen】 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Make it so that you need two Elemental hero's to Special Summon it, then the stratos technique wouldn't work cause its already a limited card. That would make it already less OP. Umm a question also with excluding this card it also means any other Elemental hero Sabre right? if not then edit that also so they can't protect each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert_Name_Here Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 i agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 I try very hard to avoid making cards belonging to already-set Archetypes, because it's so much work on me... -___-'' (I had to actually go do...research on E Heroes! D: ) The Will feels your pain (if only because I've written 'em off as a nut case). Now, you venture: what's wrong? 1. It's a Nomi. 2. Stratos is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Rhino Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Should it not be " on your *side of* the Field?I am just wondering.but i like the card i do feel like it is a little OP. Try making it *Whenever you successfully Summon an "Elemental Hero" card* place 1 Hero Counter on this card. You can remove *4* Hero Counters to add 1 "Elemental Hero" card from your Deck to your hand. Edits are in * * 8.8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Should it not be " on your *side of* the Field?I am just wondering.but i like the card i do feel like it is a little OP. Try making it *Whenever you successfully Summon an "Elemental Hero" card* place 1 Hero Counter on this card. You can remove *4* Hero Counters to add 1 "Elemental Hero" card from your Deck to your hand. Edits are in * * 8.8/10 It's underpowered; so much so The Will has to get the Facepalm Powder, splash some of the whiteness, and do the facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 this is my suggestion for the card to make it more balanced sinse I've played with E-HEROs before :) This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by Tributing 2 "Elemental Hero" cards on your field. This card gains 300 ATK for each "Elemental Hero" card in your Graveyard(this is no good, that's way too much ATK, the 2 tributes for the special summon and the first fusion you make in a duel will boost its ATK to 3000 and if its not the first turn of the game it will surely have more. I suggest lower that to like 100,,, 200 at most. even if its 2 tributes, its a Special Summon.). As long as this card remains on the field, "Elemental Hero" cards cannot be destroyed by battle (except "Elemental Hero Sabre")(this way 2 of them won't protect themselves). Once per turn, put 1 Hero Counter on this card for each "Elemental Hero" card you control (I give it about 5 turns, believe me, you'll have like 50 counters. at least discard 1 card to gain those counters or something ^-^ ). You can remove 5 Hero Counters to add 1 "Elemental Hero" card from your Deck to your hand(this is way I wanted that payment for counters, you see, this is why stratos is limited. When this card is destroyed, return 1 of the monsters Tributed to Summon this card to your hand.(this part is fair enough) I give it an 8/10 for effort and the card is actually useful for E HERO decks... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. ....editing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domi the Mystery Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Well i dont think its OPed. Nice pic and effect. 9.3/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradthecanivingfootlicker Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Yea, It's way to overpowered. With an effect that strong, you should probably make it a level 9. xD. Since you're not a noob, 8/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiAM Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 [align=center]it has too many positive effects, like gaining 100 ATK, retrieving a monster, saving monsters from battle... etc. have a negative, like it loses ATK or, monsters can only attack other cards/ this card if its on the field.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradthecanivingfootlicker Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 He should have to tribute summon with 4 E-Heros to balance it out. That's how strong the effect is. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 This card gains 100 ATK for each "Elemental Hero" monster in your Graveyard. As long as this card remains on the field, "Elemental Hero" cards cannot be destroyed by battle. Once per turn, you can remove from play 1 "Elemental Hero" card from your Graveyard to put 1 Hero Counter on this card. You can remove 2 Hero Counters to add 1 "Elemental Hero" card from your Deck or Graveyard to your hand. Can't understand the last sentence, so I had it thrown to the bin. Really, both versions of this card are in turn weaker versions of Stratos.He should have to tribute summon with 4 E-Heros to balance it out. That's how strong the effect is. :P Good Lord... is this how dumb people are here? They fuckin' cower before the almighty power of... a nomi with a weaker version of Stratos' effect? LOLwut?:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm sorry for contradicting myself but now you overdid it... ^-^" I wanted a payment for the counters because each turn there was a posibility that this card gained like 4 or 5 counters... but now you made it have a payment in order to give this card 1 single counter... now its kinda slow if you collect the counters like that and still have to remove 5.. that considering its low ATK ^-^although I can't say its broken anymore ;) .... I give it a 8.9/10 :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Aah....I'll get the winning combo sooner or later.... But not right now. Because it's late.And 'grats to the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
【Demonic Queen】 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Besides the fact nobody is willing to remove there E-hero's from play, because they would be either used as power up for him or save it for miracle fusion/elemental hero ocean. You should make it ''When a face-up ''Elemental Hero'' gets send from your field to the Graveyard put 1 Hero Counter on this card. You can remove 4 Hero Counters to add 1 "Elemental Hero" card from your Deck to your hand.'' Sorry if the ocg is bad still learning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Thanks everyone.Bump.Update.And again, really, thanks to all you guys for helping out like this. I do appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
:.Bronze Hat.:™ Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 It's pretty good, only thing is that it's slightly OP and the pic is from another card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Ditch its obnoxious Nomi-ness. Then I can curse less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGAKITTY Posted February 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Ditch its obnoxious Nomi-ness. Then I can curse less. Done. After I looked up the term :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Now, listen: This card cannot be Special Summoned from your hand. If this card is Normal Summoned, treat it's original ATK and DEF as 1000.This card gains 100 ATK for each "Elemental Hero" card monster in your Graveyard. As long as this card remains on the field, "Elemental Hero" cards cannot be destroyed by battle (excluding any "Elemental Hero Sabre"). When this card destroys a monster by battle, put 1 Hero Counter on this card. You can remove 2 Hero Counters to draw 1 card. If the card is not a "Elemental Hero" card monster, discard it. When this card is destroyed, return 1 of the monsters Tributed to Summon this card to your hand. That much you should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperboy Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Not a very good effect...... 2/10 Stars: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 There's a teeny weeny flaw, one that could very well cost you a win: its Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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