Realistic Cards Discussion- CC Mod Journal can be Discussed

[Guest JoshIcy]

Sadly Kale, I don't know if I can do that.

A person over time will grow out of it. And during that time, they will make many cards and getting the same rates. This influences a member to continue. They also know that there will always be those who give the constructive criticism they need, in addition to the post encouragement.

[Kale]

Well... could we add a section of "Precedents" under the Rules? Just a series of conduct, not any rules or anything, but things that, as a member of the forum, you are just expected to do?

 

i believe that could be helpful in the future. ;)

[Guest JoshIcy]

Alright, I'll remember to add something when I'm ready to rewrite the rules for RC.

[Kale]

Alright' date=' I'll remember to add something when I'm ready to rewrite the rules for RC.

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really? schweet... :D thanks for that. ;)

[Guest JoshIcy]

Any idea on what I should do about the frequent bumping?

I can see where newbies get this... So I'm kinda in a flux.

[darthmual5]

Any idea on what I should do about the frequent bumping?

I can see where newbies get this... So I'm kinda in a flux.

 

oh you mean bumping (much) less than 24 hours after the last post? yea, i agree thats a problem, but its kinda hard to do anything about seeing as people only bump so that others can look at/comment their cards...

[Sander]

Any idea on what I should do about the frequent bumping?

I can see where newbies get this... So I'm kinda in a flux.

 

There was a rule that you can't bump a thread that is 3 or more days older, I duno tho.

 

Maybe make it that people can bump twice a day, but the bumps have to be at least 12 hours apart from eachother.

 

Also, you may as well start controlling how many threads a person has on one page. Maybe 3 max? Unless the thread was bumped by someone else.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Any idea on what I should do about the frequent bumping?

I can see where newbies get this... So I'm kinda in a flux.

 

There was a rule that you can't bump a thread that is 3 or more days older' date=' I duno tho.

 

Maybe make it that people can bump twice a day, but the bumps have to be at least 12 hours apart from eachother.

 

Also, you may as well start controlling how many threads a person has on one page. Maybe 3 max? Unless the thread was bumped by someone else.

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Haha, this was discussed on MSN.

But yeah. I might add that latter rule.

 

And the twice a day thing sounds great.

[Brawler_1337]

Yeah... Gonna add a rule.

Anyone who posts just the OCG correction without any other comment to the card will receive a 1 week- 20% Warning. No exceptions' date=' (unless I don't see it or someone else doesn't report it).

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Well I want to add on to this, I hate noobs just posting 10/10 or "They are nice 10/10" theses are really annoying. Why not have people elaborate on what they think because a lot of posts are barely 5 words or just posts to gain higher stars.

 

That and also those who say "OCG Errors" without pointing the error parts.

 

I totally agree with this. Why post feedback on a card if you're not going to tell the creator what's so great about the card or what to improve on? It's just a waste of a post when its at that level. It should be mandatory to elaborate on how you rate cards, as well as include OCG error corrections if present.

[Guest JoshIcy]

I don't know about how you rate, because sometimes it's more feeling (which is how I may rate).

And I will never make OCG Corrections mandatory, thats like forcing something... No.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Uugh' date=' you people post and flame way too much. It's sickening.

So I beg of you people, stop with the harshness or when I do rewrite these rules. You will not like it, I can promise you that.

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[LiAM]

I dont like feedback thats just as simple as a rating like 9/10.

 

With no reason to support such a high (or low) score, it feels like spam.

 

I say a user should post 1 line minimum to support their rate. :?

[Guest JoshIcy]

See Marvel, that's where I get conflicted.

Those rates aren't actually bad as you learn the ropes, and isn't quite spam because of that. They act as a sort of motivator when newbies see "Nice idea 7/10". It keeps them going because they like that praise. And I completely respect that.

 

What you're asking is something that can only be applied to veteran members.

But then, you run into the issue of segregation within the forum. Are you sure you want that?

[Despair From The Dark]

Hmm... I don't know if this sounds like a ridiculous idea or not, but why not make a thread specifically for higher ranking members. Just one thread, where you have to have at least so many points to post a card, or rank one.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Again, we run into the issue of unfair segregation...

[Guest Star]

Yeah... Gonna add a rule.

Anyone who posts just the OCG correction without any other comment to the card will receive a 1 week- 20% Warning. No exceptions' date=' (unless I don't see it or someone else doesn't report it).[/b']

 

Well I want to add on to this, I hate noobs just posting 10/10 or "They are nice 10/10" theses are really annoying. Why not have people elaborate on what they think because a lot of posts are barely 5 words or just posts to gain higher stars.

 

I kind of don't like the bolded, but it kind of makes sense at the same time. OCG is rather important when making a card, as a card without OCG that is - for the most part - correct, the card is not Realistic. Still, just posting the OCG corrections could be an issue.

 

I think someone should be allowed to do so without getting a warning, but once those corrections have been posted, someone else shouldn't be allowed.

 

 

When this monster is normal Summoned add 1 card from your deck to your Hand.

 

 

When this monster is Normal Summoned add 1 card from your Deck to your hand.

 

Once those corrections have been posted' date=' there is no need for someone else to post the same thing. If you're correcting someone's corrections, that's a different story.

 

Hmm... I don't know if this sounds like a ridiculous idea or not, but why not make a thread specifically for higher ranking members. Just one thread, where you have to have at least so many points to post a card, or rank one.

 

Bad idea. I've seen new members make cards that are much better than cards that veterans on here have made. That brings up the segregation, like Icy said, which isn't a good idea in its own right.

[Despair From The Dark]

Again' date=' we run into the issue of unfair segregation...

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But is that's the case, then in a way, doesn't even having ranking/point/reputation system(s) in play, bring about some aspects of segregation? It kind says that people with more points, more rep, or more level stars, are better then someone without. That they are essentially being judged based on their spelling skills, creativity, and knowledge of proper card grammar. That just because they are new/ inexperienced, they aren't as good. Know what I'm saying?

 

Personally I think that if people take the time and effort into earning respect and reputation, then they would gain the ability to post in said thread. As a type of reward, if you will. It would probably be best to base it on Rep, instead of level. Because If I'm not mistaken, level is just based on the number of posts you make. So any spammer could get a high enough level if they weren't banned first. While reputation on the other hand, is earned.

 

Another Idea, is to make a thread for high quality cards, but allow anyone to post there. Perhaps set more strict rules for the thread. That way if someone decides to add a poorly created card, they'll just get called out on it. So it's more of a "post at own risk" sort of thing.

 

Sorry if I'm bothering anyone with my ideas, I just figured I'd let you know what I thought. Anywho, thanks for listening.

[Guest JoshIcy]

Again' date=' we run into the issue of unfair segregation...

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But is that's the case, then in a way, doesn't even having ranking/point/reputation system(s) in play, bring about some aspects of segregation? It kind says that people with more points, more rep, or more level stars, are better then someone without. That they are essentially being judged based on their spelling skills, creativity, and knowledge of proper card grammar. That just because they are new/ inexperienced, they aren't as good. Know what I'm saying?

No it's not. They have the members who are goals (like the the idols of sorts). But they are still the same and just as equal as any other member. New, old or in between. It's still segregation.

 

Personally I think that if people take the time and effort into earning respect and reputation, then they would gain the ability to post in said thread. As a type of reward, if you will. It would probably be best to base it on Rep, instead of level. Because If I'm not mistaken, level is just based on the number of posts you make. So any spammer could get a high enough level if they weren't banned first. While reputation on the other hand, is earned.

I'm just going to disregard this paragraph because Card Contests exists.

 

Another Idea, is to make a thread for high quality cards, but allow anyone to post there. Perhaps set more strict rules for the thread. That way if someone decides to add a poorly created card, they'll just get called out on it. So it's more of a "post at own risk" sort of thing.

High Quality is assuming there is a universal standard, while there is not. And such a thing would force "ranking" so to speak. Sorry...

 

Sorry if I'm bothering anyone with my ideas, I just figured I'd let you know what I thought. Anywho, thanks for listening.

[Despair From The Dark]

No it's not. They have the members who are goals (like the the idols of sorts). But they are still the same and just as equal as any other member. New' date=' old or in between. It's still segregation.[/b']

 

Hmm... what I explained probably wouldn't have been best described as a type of segregation. Because it isn't necessarily creating groups with different privileges, preventing certain people form having access to anything, etc. But in a way, it makes it one big competition for reputation. Look at me. I have 2 Level Stars, 74 Points, and all of 1 Reputation. In comparison to someone like yourself, that's pretty weak. It seems logical to assume, that any random person would most likely take your opinion over mine. (Unless you've given them reason to believe otherwise.) Wouldn't you agree? Sure, we may have the same privileges, but in the eyes of others, we probably aren't going to be considered very equal. Especially if you're a Mod.

 

I'm just going to disregard this paragraph because Card Contests exists.

 

I assume that you're referring to how Card Contests are allowed to set a # of required points to join?

 

High Quality is assuming there is a universal standard' date=' while there is not. And such a thing would force "ranking" so to speak. Sorry...[/b']

 

True, true. What's good and what's bad, is essentially completely subjective. But I'd say that the official card game, does sort of set a kind of standard in which to go off of.

[Huntar!]

This sounds kinda rough, but how about a special forum be made, like Dj Osiris suggested once, for real realistic cards. As in threads must be reviewed before they are posted on the forum. But then it comes to the point, how do we decide who picks what goes in, and how he is to decide.

[Guest JoshIcy]

This sounds kinda rough' date=' but how about a special forum be made, like Dj Osiris suggested once, for real realistic cards. As in threads must be reviewed before they are posted on the forum. But then it comes to the point, how do we decide who picks what goes in, and how he is to decide.

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Did you not see the discussions above?

That would force ranking, which I believe not to be good.

 

And while I am in the LCM, it is merely pride over actuality.

[Skyson]

Segregation isn't unfair. It actually puts some merit behind these little stars we get in our profiles based on our post count.

 

A single forum that's free to access from anyone of any level is completely defeating a purpose of having user levels. If a lower level member disregards a higher level member, oh well they're on the same forum, who is to say whose opinion is right or wrong.

 

Why not make a forum for level 1-3, and a forum for 4+? At level 4, I would assume at that point that enough constructive criticism has been gained to have a little sense about how to make custom cards.

 

Make the Level 4+ Member forum read-only to members of level 3 and below, and make sure that the Level 4+ members know not to flaunt their awesome creations along with the newbie section.

 

Does it create segregation? Of course.

Do we already have factions that [attempt to] seperate the higher-calibre card makers from everyone else? That would be LCM in particular, so yes.

 

Segregating them is one thing, segregating them while still giving them visible access to the cards of higher level posters ensures that they have a gathering of higher-quality cards to look at as reference material for making their own cards.

 

It also gives higher level members a simpler method of going through and looking for newer members' cards to give helpful ideas, or simply go to the higher level thread to look at cards that are more than likely going to be good.

 

I really don't understand why people are so disgusted with the idea of 'segregation' when it's already been done, just not in a public fashion. :/

 

Also, I have more free time now that my senior year is done, so I can get back to those in-depth reviews of cards that I know people love to see hit their cards! =D

 

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents, since a lot of the current discussion has basically been "Well, I think this should happen!" "Eh... no."

 

>_>

[Despair From The Dark]

Segregation isn't unfair. It actually puts some merit behind these little stars we get in our profiles based on our post count...

 

Thank you my friend, I personally think that was a fantastic idea, and I would certainly support it. It's like my idea, but better. Great job! :D

[Guest Star]

Segregation isn't unfair. It actually puts some merit behind these little stars we get in our profiles based on our post count...

 

Thank you my friend' date=' I personally think that was a fantastic idea, and I would certainly support it. It's like my idea, but better. Great job! :D

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Are you kidding me? Someone's stars are based on their post count, not their card making ability. That's a terrible, terrible, idea

[Despair From The Dark]

Are you kidding me? Someone's stars are based on their post count' date=' not their card making ability. That's a terrible, terrible, idea

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Then make it based on Reputation or Points. It doesn't matter to me. I just liked the idea. Level Star at least show you've been at the forum long enough. So hopefully you'd have enough experience at that point. If not, it goes down to the post at own risk thing. If they make a bad card, someone will probably yell at them for it. I mean, they do anyways, so I don't see how it could hurt at all.