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They could have made this another generic field spell searcher like Gravekeeper's Commandant, Captain Gold, Archfiend General and all the rest, but instead we get this crap. It doesn't even search from the deck! RAEG!

 

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Old news are old. There are 2 other threads for this.

 

So? I couldn't find any, probably because people are too retarded to include the name of the card in the thread title. Besides, I'm raging over this because I want to build a deck that can properly abuse Zombie World.

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Old news are old. There are 2 other threads for this.

 

There are? Damn, people need to title their discussion threads better, not stupid crap like "lol, holy **** on a **** sandwich".

 

On-topic: Yeah, this card is terrible. Main terraforming instead.

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OMG THEY MADE A WORTHLESS CARD THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!

 

Sad truth is sad. D'=

 

I know it just gets added to the countless list of other crappy secrets, I'm just annoyed that they didn't make it follow suit of the other generic field spell searches.

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OMG THEY MADE A WORTHLESS CARD THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!

 

Eh, but when they make decent cards of a similar vein that do seem to work (like the other field searcher monsters), it makes it all the more aggravating when they produce a horrible downgrade like this.

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To be perfectly honest, there's only one thing making this card a truly Bad Idea -- the lack of Special Summon, thereby making it the most useless Zombie in existance (even Bone Rat can be used with Everliving Underworld Cannon [despite there being better choices]).

 

If only they had allowed it to be Special Summon-able, THEN it would be an OK card. I know, I know, 'field searchers are king, this effect doesn't search, this is just sandpaper' . . . but consider the following: If you decked Terraforming AND this guy (if he had the ability to be Special Summoned), you wouldn't have to use Terraformings on extra copies of Zombie World, instead getting the original back over and over . . . i.e., the anti-Special Summon effect is the REAL killer here.

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If you decked Terraforming AND this guy (if he had the ability to be Special Summoned)' date=' you wouldn't have to use Terraformings on extra copies of Zombie World, instead getting the original back over and over . . . i.e., the anti-Special Summon effect is the REAL killer here.

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... What really kills it is that it's not "discarded by hand" like all the other cards of the series, Harpy Queen, Gravekeepers Commadant, generic third card.

 

The not SS-able part is just the icing on the terribad cake that is this card. Even if it was still the same, but SS-able, I'd rather not use up my Mezuki or Book of Life to bring Zombie World to my hand, and actually work towards a win condition.

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If you decked Terraforming AND this guy (if he had the ability to be Special Summoned)' date=' you wouldn't have to use Terraformings on extra copies of Zombie World, instead getting the original back over and over . . . i.e., the anti-Special Summon effect is the REAL killer here.

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... What really kills it is that it's not "discarded by hand" like all the other cards of the series, Harpy Queen, Gravekeepers Commadant, generic third card.

 

The not SS-able part is just the icing on the terribad cake that is this card. Even if it was still the same, but SS-able, I'd rather not use up my Mezuki or Book of Life to bring Zombie World to my hand, and actually work towards a win condition.

 

You're kind of missing the point. If this card were Special Summon-able, you wouldn't be supposed to use it as a Field Searcher -- more like a maintenance crew. Leave the searching to Terraforming and use this guy when you need to get it back because some joker got rid of it (EDIT: Translation: You'd only need to deck ONE copy of Zombie World as opposed to around 3).

 

And it wouldn't need a Mezuki or Book of Life, there's a highly-usable little guy called Zombie Master you can use instead . . . that is usable to DUMP a Mezuki (or a monster to be Book-of-Life'd) in for you to use on/for something worthwhile.

 

That being said, I stand by my position that the cannot-be-Special-Summoned is what hurts it the most.

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... I just noticed this thing only searches the grave, making it an even worse card then I originally thought. <_<

 

The whole thing about it is bad, pretty much. Everything from the not SS-ability, to the field tribute, to the searching only the grave option. This card is the pinnacle of terrible design.

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... I just noticed this thing only searches the grave' date=' making it an even worse card then I originally thought. <_<[/quote']

 

And I just noticed that someone is invoking the trope Completely Missing The Point. The point being, it's not MEANT to be a Field Searcher, but a Field RETURNER. Hence, it only got crippled by Konami's bone-headed move to make it unable to be Special Summoned; you'd still run Terraforming, you just wouldn't need to run as many of the Field Spell.

 

The whole thing about it is bad' date=' pretty much. Everything from the not SS-ability, to the field tribute, to the searching only the grave option. This card is the pinnacle of terrible design.

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And the only reason the WHOLE of it is bad is because the ONE part (the cannot-be-Special-Summoned) is bad -- otherwise, everyone'd be decking three of IT instead of a Field Barrier for ZW decks, because they wouldn't need to worry about keeping ZW on the field, instead being able to use this guy to bring the field back to your hand.

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... I just noticed this thing only searches the grave' date=' making it an even worse card then I originally thought. <_<

 

The whole thing about it is bad, pretty much. Everything from the not SS-ability, to the field tribute, to the searching only the grave option. This card is the pinnacle of terrible design.

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... I just noticed this thing only searches the grave' date=' making it an even worse card then I originally thought. <_<[/quote']

 

And I just noticed that someone is invoking the trope Completely Missing The Point. The point being, it's not MEANT to be a Field Searcher, but a Field RETURNER. Hence, it only got crippled by Konami's bone-headed move to make it unable to be Special Summoned; you'd still run Terraforming, you just wouldn't need to run as many of the Field Spell.

 

The whole thing about it is bad' date=' pretty much. Everything from the not SS-ability, to the field tribute, to the searching only the grave option. This card is the pinnacle of terrible design.

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And the only reason the WHOLE of it is bad is because the ONE part (the cannot-be-Special-Summoned) is bad -- otherwise, everyone'd be decking three of IT instead of a Field Barrier for ZW decks, because they wouldn't need to worry about keeping ZW on the field, instead being able to use this guy to bring the field back to your hand.

 

Exactly, he was never made to search for Zombie World but rather to reduce the number of Zombie Worlds essential for a deck and to keep re-using a single copy of Zombie World. His purpose in design was to recycle Zombie World, not to speed up the drawing of it. I guess the Immortal part of his name was supposed to deal with the fact that he would have essentially kept ruling over an "immortal" kingdom since Zombie World would have recursion. Had he not had the idiotic non-Special Summonable clause, he would have been considered a staple for decks that are based around Zombie World. Konami failed hard this time though, I'm not really sure why they decided to "balance" him by destroying his very purpose. However, had they not done that, he would have actually been quite a decent card.

 

Why anyone would make a Zombie that can't be special summoned is beyond me but then again, this is Konami we're dealing with...

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I'd still rather main the damn 3 Zombie Worlds then main a terrible card I have to give up:

 

1) A generic monster in my hand.

2) Mezuki, Book of Life, or Monster Reborn.

3) My normal summon

 

In order to use correctly. And no, I don't wanna play this stupid "no u" game with baroque. All things considered, in most Zombie Deck no one even bothers to main Zombie World, so the argument is moot anyway.

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