Luxlord Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Reaper wins. But if your opponet trys to do peircing in a battle against reaper' date=' [b']would that target?[/b] No. your kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanAtlus Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 How would you guys react if Marshmallon was put on 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Mashy's Good Bits:~ Only monster that can't be destroyed by battle that doesn't have a side effect. ......How exactly does that count as a 'Good Bit'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Reaper wins. But if your opponet trys to do peircing in a battle against reaper' date=' [b']would that target?[/b] No. your kidding right? Did you quote the wrong person or are you just stupid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 ~ Only monster that can't be destroyed by battle that doesn't have a side effect. That's just one big flaw actually, monsters that cannot be destroyed by battle = instant tag-outs for Glads <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I still can't believe there isn't already a thread about it' date='[/quote'] There are several. You just didn't find them. Because you're dumb. ~ Higher def than Spirit Reaper Because extremely minor differences in DEF are totally the most important aspects of monsters that can't be destroyed by battle. Marshy + Sanctuary In Teh Sky = (Oh shart! no more battle damage) What' date=' you're going to run Sanctuary in the Sky with this just to avert Battle Damage in case Marshmallon goes into Attack Position for some reason? Marshy + Marshy Goggles = (Oh shart! no more attking his other monsters) There are much better 2-card attack locks. Marshy + Marshy Goggles + Sanctuary = Heavy storm This makes no sense at all. Light. Not the greatest support =| You ARE joking' date=' right? Honestable. Runable in LS and Zombie decks.[/quote'] No, it's true. DARK has the best support. Being compatible with Honest is fairly useless for Marshmallon's purposes, since you seldom have motivation to put him in Attack Position, and he never dies in battle anyhow. Light. Not the greatest support =| You ARE joking' date=' right? Honestable. Runable in LS and Zombie decks.[/quote'] Honestable? Against piercers I suppose? Read Honest. Read a random piercer. Observe, Rook-kun, that using Honest in that situation would do nothing. How would you guys react if Marshmallon was put on 2? Nobody would care. Reaper is superior to Marshmallon anyhow' date=' and The Fool (which is only really different from Marshmallon in that it lacks the Meteor of Destruction effect) lets people run as many unkillable monsters as they want anyhow. Mashy's Good Bits:~ Only monster that can't be destroyed by battle that doesn't have a side effect. ......How exactly does that count as a 'Good Bit'? I believe he means a negative side-effect: Gellenduo's self-destruction, Reaper's self-destruction (because he doesn't know that that's a good thing), The Fool's position-switching lock, and Castle Wall's... um... yeah, he just forgot Castle Wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Do not post in this thread. It is ancient. But look at all the comparisons between the two.http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-82192.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Reaper wins. But if your opponet trys to do peircing in a battle against reaper' date=' [b']would that target?[/b] No. your kidding right? Did you quote the wrong person or are you just stupid? No, I quoted the wrong person, which is why I bolded the words... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santi :D Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Attack targeting doesn't count. I just read it again, I decided it is retarfded. That would contradict spirit reapers own effect, making it a card that can be destroyed by everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Holy crap, guys. Saying Marshmallon is better than Spirit Reaper is like saying Tremendous Fire is better than Crush Card, Allure and Confiscation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishncrabs Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Okay, Crab Helmet, I couldn't find any threads that had Marshi in their name. I looked at the first few recent ones, and they weren't anything to do with this - there was probably some in the past, but don't call me an idiot for it.Also, yeah, the DEF makes no difference, but I just chucked it out there to make it look like Marshi was better :PAnd yeah, I mean that all the other can't be destroyed by battle cards have side effects, like what you just stated. Mashi doesn't. Castle Gate is 6 star, that's side effect enough for me. Holy crap' date=' guys. Saying Marshmallon is better than Spirit Reaper is like saying Tremendous Fire is better than Crush Card, Allure and Confiscation.[/quote'] Why is it THAT much better? ~ The burn on Marshi helps me A LOT. Helpful in the end game and when your opponent has a lot of monsters out and not expecting to be hit.~ Reaper's targeted effect is usually a side effect. Sure, it would help in the case of brain control or cards like that, but the majority of removals don't switch it to your side of the field. Let's say you played spellbinding circle on it (its an example. idk why anyone would run that :P), then Reaper is destroyed, instead of the effect not doing anything. Ouch.~ Yes, it has a lot more support for being a dark type, but Marshster has the second most supported type of Light. Yes, I know he can be allured, ccv'd, DaD/Dark Creator fodder. But so what? That only works in some decks, while Marshi only works in light decks. Thanks for all the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Okay' date=' Crab Helmet, I couldn't find any threads that had Marshi in their name. I looked at the first few recent ones, and they weren't anything to do with this - there was probably some in the past, but don't call me an idiot for it.[/quote'] You checked the first few topics and didn't see any about Marshmallon? What, you thought it was unbelievable that nobody had posted in a topic about Marshmallon in the past ten minutes? Also, the search bar exists. Also, not being a dunderhead exists. Also' date=' yeah, the DEF makes no difference, but I just chucked it out there to make it look like Marshi was better :P[/quote'] And you say I shouldn't call you an idiot. And yeah' date=' I mean that all the other can't be destroyed by battle cards have side effects, like what you just stated. Mashi doesn't. Castle Gate is 6 star, that's side effect enough for me.[/quote'] The Fool doesn't have one that matters, and Spirit Reaper's is positive. So you're still wrong. Holy crap' date=' guys. Saying Marshmallon is better than Spirit Reaper is like saying Tremendous Fire is better than Crush Card, Allure and Confiscation.[/quote'] Why is it THAT much better? Brain/Mind/Enemy/Soul-resistant, DARK, Zombie, discard effect > useless Honest and burn. ~ The burn on Marshi helps me A LOT. Helpful in the end game and when your opponent has a lot of monsters out and not expecting to be hit. The burn is only 1/8 LP' date=' and anyone who blindly attacks into a face-down monster without expecting anything is an idiot. ~ Reaper's targeted effect is usually a side effect. Sure, it would help in the case of brain control or cards like that, but the majority of removals don't switch it to your side of the field. Let's say you played spellbinding circle on it (its an example. idk why anyone would run that :P), then Reaper is destroyed, instead of the effect not doing anything. Ouch. See, that's the problem. The majority of cards that target that people actually use do one of these three things: 1) Remove the target from the field.2) Switch control of the target.3) Flip the target face-down. (This is just Book of Moon, really.) Spirit Reaper's effect does not activate in response to Cases 1 and 3, and is a positive in Case 2. ~ Yes' date=' it has a lot more support for being a dark type, but Marshster has the second most supported type of Light. Yes, I know he can be allured, ccv'd, DaD/Dark Creator fodder. But so what? That only works in some decks, while Marshi only works in light decks.[/quote'] The only notable LIGHT support is Honest. Honest is pretty much irrelevant to Marshmallon, since it only has 300 ATK, will always be in Defense Position, and won't die in battle anyhow. There is far more DARK support, it is far more powerful, and it is far more powerful. No, people won't splash The Dark Creator into decks with a relatively low concentration of DARKs, but CCV and even Allure have found their way into non-DARK decks, often thanks in part to Spirit Reaper (and friends like Sangan). Honest isn't so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Do not post in this thread. It is ancient. But look at all the comparisons between the two.http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/thread-82192.html Fishncrabs, read all the posts in a thread before typing something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishncrabs Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 yeah. i went thru the search bar and all. thats what i meant. i couldnt find anything too recent.also, im only new to this game and this community. i have never used a spirit reaper. this thread was mainly about discussing marshi, not comparing it to other non-destroyed by battle monsters.im srry if i get some things wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Well, you should look through the thread in my post. It has everything you'll need to know as to how Marshmallon compares to Spirit Reaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishncrabs Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 okay, i will :Pbut this thread was mainly about discussing marshi itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 The link I put up to my ancient thread has lots on Marshmallon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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