「tea.leaf」 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 [align=center] Let's, for a moment, ignore that there are other cards that outclass this. Other than its mandatory effect, what makes it so terrible?[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 It isn't even that bad. Being outclassed is the only reason I can think of that people don't use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I already made this topic. Two words.LightningAfro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I already made this topic. Two words.LightningAfro Emperor of Lightning has a bigger afro, not to mention a sexier battle dress. You can honest Zaborg; that ought to be of some merit, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Was there some errata to this or can this still only kill face-ups? I think it might be kind a sidable for monarch...kinda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 But his afro isnt made out of LIGHTNING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Was there some errata to this or can this still only kill face-ups? No. Caius and Raiza came along and laughed at Zaborg with their superior effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Was there some errata to this or can this still only kill face-ups? No. Caius and Raiza came along and laughed at Zaborg. Zaborg then realized his relative insignificance, and cut himself, thereby explaining why he has only five stars. Of course, he saw all of this coming from a long way; being a card, he is in on everything, after all. Thestalos killed hands, so he didn't care much, and Mobius was content with knowing that he possessed great potential. Granmarg, meanwhile, had absolutely no idea what was going on at all; he's a rock, for Christ's sake, give him a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 I lol'd heartily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Only mildly playable because Chaos Sorcerer is now legal, and because most duelists are too stupid to use Kuraz right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Only mildly playable because Chaos Sorcerer is now legal' date=' and because most duelists are too stupid to use Kuraz right.[/quote'] [lots of better light monsters to run in that kind of a deck /say hi] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also, if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Yeah, please do. I'm interested to see what you could possibly come up with that doesn't have "Honest" or "Lightsworn" in its card name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Shining AngelSkelegelMarshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Reflect BounderThunder DragonD.D. Warrior LadyCyber Dragon Running Zaborg seems pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Shining AngelSkelegelMarshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Reflect BounderThunder DragonD.D. Warrior LadyCyber Dragon Running Zaborg seems pointless Because a 2400 ATK beatstick that +1's is absolutely the worst thing you can run, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Shocker Android Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Mobius and thestalos had better effects back in the days. It's just that there was something called invasion of chaos and people needed some light monsters in their decks. Then came raiza and I always found that thes+raiza was a better combo than raizaborg. It made soul exchange better. And now we have caius. Now if you want to know why he sucks disregarding better options the fact this thing "destroys" monster isn't good with stardust in the extra deck. Like you said being mandatory isn't really good (it would be on something like DMoC though imagine not being able to miss the timing). He is "thunder" which is an horrible type to have in YGO there almost no support for that (compared to icarus attack for winged beast). Light gives you the ability to run this with honest but I'd rather have the option to get rid of it with allure if he doesn't fit the situation like caius. Dark has the best support I don't know why but my guess is that PTDN has something to do with this. It's not a terrible card, something like "gust" is. That thing is just outclassed and there's no reason not to run a better card when you can. Maybe in the right deck this could work or if some support comes to help light/thunder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Shining AngelSkelegelMarshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Reflect BounderThunder DragonD.D. Warrior LadyCyber Dragon Running Zaborg seems pointless Because a 2400 ATK beatstick that +1's is absolutely the worst thing you can run, right? I never said that did I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Why would I be talking about traditional? Are you honestly so thick headed that you haven't noticed Chaos Sorcerer has been limited for 2 whole months? Shining Angel*Reads the rest of your list first.*So you're gonna want to pull Skelengel in attack mode' date=' Marshmallon in attack mode, or risk in consistency by maining three of Shining Angel just to nab the one DD Warrior Lady in your deck? And you go on to call ME a bad duelist? Lol. SkelegelHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Marshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Has to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Reflect BounderHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Thunder DragonYou're grasping for straws if you honestly think any deck other then Exodia or some kind of OTK would main this. D.D. Warrior LadyIf you're maining D.D. Warrior Lady and you let it fall into the graveyard then you're doing it wrong. Cyber DragonThe only passable card' date=' limited to one. Running Zaborg seems pointlessYou use it as another light type monster in order to run Chaos Sorcerer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Shining Angel - MaybeSkelegel - No. Too slowMarshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...) - Reaper is generally betterReflect Bounder - No. It sucksThunder Dragon - Pointless outside of OTKs, FTKs and Traditional FormatD.D. Warrior Lady - Not if you use it properlyCyber Dragon - Definately Running Zaborg seems pointless - When better options exist, yes. Answered in Quote. You also forgot about Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 It's not a terrible card' date=' something like "gust" is. That thing is just outclassed and there's no reason not to run a better card when you can. Maybe in the right deck this could work or if some support comes to help light/thunder.[/quote'] Their support isn't nonexistent; interesting would be a better word, perhaps... They have Judgment of Thunder and Makiu. Of course, Batterymen do it better. List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Shining AngelSkelegelMarshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Reflect BounderThunder DragonD.D. Warrior LadyCyber Dragon Running Zaborg seems pointless Because a 2400 ATK beatstick that +1's is absolutely the worst thing you can run, right? I never said that did I? Eat your words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkerai Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Shining AngelSkelegelMarshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Reflect BounderThunder DragonD.D. Warrior LadyCyber Dragon Running Zaborg seems pointless So besides D.D. Warrior Lady and Cyber Dragon Zaoborg owns the rest...plus D.D. Warrior and Cyber are limited to 1...Zaborg is limited to 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Why would I be talking about traditional? Are you honestly so thick headed that you haven't noticed Chaos Sorcerer has been limited for 2 whole months? Shining Angel*Reads the rest of your list first.*So you're gonna want to pull Skelengel in attack mode' date=' Marshmallon in attack mode, or risk in consistency by maining three of Shining Angel just to nab the one DD Warrior Lady in your deck? And you go on to call ME a bad duelist? Lol. SkelegelHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Marshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Has to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Reflect BounderHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Thunder DragonYou're grasping for straws if you honestly think any deck other then Exodia or some kind of OTK would main this. D.D. Warrior LadyIf you're maining D.D. Warrior Lady and you let it fall into the graveyard then you're doing it wrong. Cyber DragonThe only passable card' date=' limited to one. Running Zaborg seems pointlessYou use it as another light type monster in order to run Chaos Sorcerer. Wow your either so full of fail or you just dont know the object of an envoy/ chaos deck... just in case your one of the two I'll make things simple... The objet is to get LIGHT AND DARK monsters in your grave, and Loling at shining angel proves you obviously cant run a deck like this, or your plain full of fail, your pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
「tea.leaf」 Posted May 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Why would I be talking about traditional? Are you honestly so thick headed that you haven't noticed Chaos Sorcerer has been limited for 2 whole months? Shining Angel*Reads the rest of your list first.*So you're gonna want to pull Skelengel in attack mode' date=' Marshmallon in attack mode, or risk in consistency by maining three of Shining Angel just to nab the one DD Warrior Lady in your deck? And you go on to call ME a bad duelist? Lol. SkelegelHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Marshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Has to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Reflect BounderHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Thunder DragonYou're grasping for straws if you honestly think any deck other then Exodia or some kind of OTK would main this. D.D. Warrior LadyIf you're maining D.D. Warrior Lady and you let it fall into the graveyard then you're doing it wrong. Cyber DragonThe only passable card' date=' limited to one. Running Zaborg seems pointlessYou use it as another light type monster in order to run Chaos Sorcerer. Wow your either so full of fail or you just dont know the object of an envoy/ chaos deck... just in case your one of the two I'll make things simple... The objet is to get LIGHT AND DARK monsters in your grave, and Loling at shining angel proves you obviously cant run a deck like this, or your plain full of fail, your pick... Hey, everyone, look at this guy; he's so cool. Chaos Sorcerer isn't a win condition, dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxlord Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 List some. Also' date=' if you're just gonna list Lightsworn, you might as well just make a Lightsworn deck.[/quote'] Plenty if we are talking traditional format, but just in case you arent... Why would I be talking about traditional? Are you honestly so thick headed that you haven't noticed Chaos Sorcerer has been limited for 2 whole months? Shining Angel*Reads the rest of your list first.*So you're gonna want to pull Skelengel in attack mode' date=' Marshmallon in attack mode, or risk in consistency by maining three of Shining Angel just to nab the one DD Warrior Lady in your deck? And you go on to call ME a bad duelist? Lol. SkelegelHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Marshy (you must be really dumb if you say no to this...)Has to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Reflect BounderHas to be attacked by your opponent to be any good. Thunder DragonYou're grasping for straws if you honestly think any deck other then Exodia or some kind of OTK would main this. D.D. Warrior LadyIf you're maining D.D. Warrior Lady and you let it fall into the graveyard then you're doing it wrong. Cyber DragonThe only passable card' date=' limited to one. Running Zaborg seems pointlessYou use it as another light type monster in order to run Chaos Sorcerer. Wow your either so full of fail or you just dont know the object of an envoy/ chaos deck... just in case your one of the two I'll make things simple... The objet is to get LIGHT AND DARK monsters in your grave, and Loling at shining angel proves you obviously cant run a deck like this, or your plain full of fail, your pick... Hey, everyone, look at this guy; he's so cool. Chaos Sorcerer isn't a win condition, dear. Wow do we have total tards here?running 3 shining angels for an envoy deck is obviously not rightok then Mystic Tomato is out...did it look like I was discussing a victory condition?Stop the fail please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Wow your either so full of fail or you just dont know the object of an envoy/ chaos deck... just in case your one of the two I'll make things simple... The objet is to get LIGHT AND DARK monsters in your grave' date=' and Loling at shining angel proves you obviously cant run a deck like this, or your plain full of fail, your pick...[/quote'] The object of most decks is to win. (Unless you're self disrespecting fool who runs Self Destruct Button or something.) Monarch decks work by controlling and limiting you opponents moves and then beating them down with 2400 sticks, whenever you can afford to tribute. The fact that they can whip out a 2300 beatstick that can also RFG is just an easily splashable cherry on top, nothing more. And if you honestly don't think Chaos monsters are incredibly splashable into any deck that can afford to put in a decent amount of darks and lights in a deck, then you're quite the terrible duelist if I do say so myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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