HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 As humans we have a generally accepted standard of rationality. We (non-scientologists) recognize the crazies when we see them. We understand that we shouldn't kill people. However, every time I argue that something done by the Christian God (such as not eradicating evil but instead allowing Satan to destroy us) doesn't make sense, the defense is always the same: "You can't understand it because you don't think like God." If God thinks in a different way, then either God thinks irrationally or he created us with an illogical thought process. The answer I tend to lean toward is that the first solution (God being the irrationalist) is true if we have a generally accepted standard of what is rational, because creating a race to purposely think illogically is irrational. But I don't think like God, so this is all bullshit anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 You're an atheist. We get it. Shut up already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 You're an atheist. We get it. Shut up already. Topic over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 You're an atheist. We get it. Shut up already. You're a weeaboo. We get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larxene Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517678' dateline='1247029150']You're an atheist. We get it. Shut up already. You're a weeaboo. We get it. Doesn't mean I need to post topics about it every 5 minutes like you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Thread not over? D: Horus, it's understandable that you want to convey your thoughts, but why not just have one big thread with all of your ideas so that people aren't so incredibly annoyed with new topics every time a new idea comes up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517678' dateline='1247029150']You're an atheist. We get it. Shut up already. You're a weeaboo. We get it. Doesn't mean I need to post topics about it every 5 minutes like you do. I've posted 1 topic about the stupidity of the human race and 1 topic that is an argument against God. These topics aren't about Atheism at all. This topic doesn't even deny God's existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Emo~ Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 You're an atheist. We get it. Shut up already. Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 As a Christian, my understanding as I was taught, is that God placed us here on Earth to follow our own path. He would not force us in any direction; and at the end, if our path led us down destruction, we would burn in hell. God does not eradicate evil because it is not yet time. Judgment day is His will, and at that time, He will eradicate all evil, and have those who believe and trust in Him, to stand by his side. God's not an irrationalist. He's simply watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 As a Christian' date=' my understanding as I was taught, is that God placed us here on Earth to follow our own path. He would not force us in any direction; and at the end, if our path led us down destruction, we would burn in hell. God does not eradicate evil because it is not yet time. Judgment day is His will, and at that time, He will eradicate all evil, and have those who believe and trust in Him, to stand by his side. God's not an irrationalist. He's simply watching.[/quote'] Why is it not time to eradicate evil? Why is there evil to begin with? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?Then he is not omnipotent.Is he able, but not willing?Then he is malevolent.Is he both able and willing?Then whence cometh evil?Is he neither able nor willing?Then why call him God?"- Epicurus - 33 CE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Who or What created God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The kid with the face Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Who or What created God? Gtfo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Who or What created God? Though this question is quite irrelevant, the obvious answer is man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 What crawled up your rear and died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517728' dateline='1247030011']Who or What created God? Though this question is quite irrelevant' date=' the obvious answer is man.[/quote'] I asked because I don't particularly care about the original topic. Just tossing in thoughts that will make people wonder. What crawled up your rear and died? Flying Spaghetti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 What crawled up your rear and died? Religion. I asked because I don't particularly care about the original topic. Just tossing in thoughts that will make people wonder. Well, don't. I'm trying to hold a discussion here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517713' dateline='1247029734']As a Christian' date=' my understanding as I was taught, is that God placed us here on Earth to follow our own path. He would not force us in any direction; and at the end, if our path led us down destruction, we would burn in hell. God does not eradicate evil because it is not yet time. Judgment day is His will, and at that time, He will eradicate all evil, and have those who believe and trust in Him, to stand by his side. God's not an irrationalist. He's simply watching.[/quote'] Why is it not time to eradicate evil? Why is there evil to begin with? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?Then he is not omnipotent.Is he able, but not willing?Then he is malevolent.Is he both able and willing?Then whence cometh evil?Is he neither able nor willing?Then why call him God?"- Epicurus - 33 CE If there was no Evil he wouldn't be able to judge you because everyone would choose a righteous path. =\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517713' dateline='1247029734']As a Christian' date=' my understanding as I was taught, is that God placed us here on Earth to follow our own path. He would not force us in any direction; and at the end, if our path led us down destruction, we would burn in hell. God does not eradicate evil because it is not yet time. Judgment day is His will, and at that time, He will eradicate all evil, and have those who believe and trust in Him, to stand by his side. God's not an irrationalist. He's simply watching.[/quote'] Why is it not time to eradicate evil? Why is there evil to begin with? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?Then he is not omnipotent.Is he able, but not willing?Then he is malevolent.Is he both able and willing?Then whence cometh evil?Is he neither able nor willing?Then why call him God?"- Epicurus - 33 CE If there was no Evil he wouldn't be able to judge you because everyone would choose a righteous path. =\ And why does he need to judge us? Why doesn't he just put us all in heaven and forget about life on Earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517747' dateline='1247030294']' pid='2517713' dateline='1247029734']As a Christian' date=' my understanding as I was taught, is that God placed us here on Earth to follow our own path. He would not force us in any direction; and at the end, if our path led us down destruction, we would burn in hell. God does not eradicate evil because it is not yet time. Judgment day is His will, and at that time, He will eradicate all evil, and have those who believe and trust in Him, to stand by his side. God's not an irrationalist. He's simply watching.[/quote'] Why is it not time to eradicate evil? Why is there evil to begin with? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?Then he is not omnipotent.Is he able, but not willing?Then he is malevolent.Is he both able and willing?Then whence cometh evil?Is he neither able nor willing?Then why call him God?"- Epicurus - 33 CE If there was no Evil he wouldn't be able to judge you because everyone would choose a righteous path. =\ And why does he need to judge us? Why doesn't he just put us all in heaven and forget about life on Earth? Because then the bible would be boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517736' dateline='1247030123']What crawled up your rear and died? Religion. I asked because I don't particularly care about the original topic. Just tossing in thoughts that will make people wonder. Well' date=' don't. I'm trying to hold a discussion here.[/quote']*ahem*Horus' date=' it's understandable that you want to convey your thoughts, but why not just have one big thread with all of your ideas so that people aren't so incredibly annoyed with new topics every time a new idea comes up?[/quote'] Who or What created God? Gtfo. NO U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517747' dateline='1247030294']' pid='2517713' dateline='1247029734']As a Christian' date=' my understanding as I was taught, is that God placed us here on Earth to follow our own path. He would not force us in any direction; and at the end, if our path led us down destruction, we would burn in hell. God does not eradicate evil because it is not yet time. Judgment day is His will, and at that time, He will eradicate all evil, and have those who believe and trust in Him, to stand by his side. God's not an irrationalist. He's simply watching.[/quote'] Why is it not time to eradicate evil? Why is there evil to begin with? "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?Then he is not omnipotent.Is he able, but not willing?Then he is malevolent.Is he both able and willing?Then whence cometh evil?Is he neither able nor willing?Then why call him God?"- Epicurus - 33 CE If there was no Evil he wouldn't be able to judge you because everyone would choose a righteous path. =\ And why does he need to judge us? Why doesn't he just put us all in heaven and forget about life on Earth? Because Earth is Heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 There's no death or pain or anything... >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Willieh, your response is inadequate. Try thinking logically before posting. Luxord, I've posted 2 topics that share my ideas, neither of which are related. Icy, if Earth is Heaven, why is there evil on Earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoshIcy Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517759' dateline='1247030529']Icy' date=' if Earth is Heaven, why is there evil on Earth?[/quote'] There isn't. But there is Popular Perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willieh Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 ' pid='2517759' dateline='1247030529']Willieh' date=' your response is inadequate. Try thinking logically before posting.[/quote'] Do you want to give me some elaborate reasoning? That is a totally adequate answer. If the bible explained that sinning had no downsides, then the purpose of the religion would be defeated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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