Tickle Me Emo Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Forbidden Cards ALL-OUT ATTACKSBLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNINGBRIONIC, DRAGON OF ICE BOUNDARYBUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMACALL OF THE HAUNTEDCARD OF SAFE RETURNCHANGE OF HEARTCHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE ENDCONFISCATIONCHAOS SORCERERCHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGONCHIMERATECH OVERDRAGONCRUSH CARD VIRUSCYBER JARCYBER-STEINCYBER TWIN DRAGONDARK ARMED DRAGONDARK HOLEDARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOSDARK STRIKE FIGHTERDELINQUENT DUODEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDONDES CROAKINGDESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDERDIMENSION FUSIONEXCHANGE OF THE SPIRITEXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONEFIBER JARGLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUSGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESSGRACEFUL CHARITYHARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTERIMPERIAL ORDERJUDGMENT DRAGONLAST TURNLAST WILLMAGICAL SCIENTISTMAKYURA THE DESTRUCTORMIRAGE OF NIGHTMAREMONSTER REBORNPAINFUL CHOICEPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIEPOT OF GREEDPREMATURE BURIALRAIGEKIRING OF DESTRUCTIONSHORT CIRCUITSINISTER SERPENTSNATCH STEALTHE FORCEFUL SENTRYTHOUSAND-EYES RESTRICTTIME SEALTRIBE-INFECTING VIRUSTSUKUYOMIULTIMATE OFFERINGVICTORY DRAGONWITCH OF THE BLACK FORESTYATA-GARASU NEW! - All-out Attacks, Brionic, Dragon of the Ice Boundary, Card of Safe Return, Chaos Sorcerer, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon, Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Strike Fighter, Demise, King of Armageddon, Des Croaking, Exodia the Forbidden One, Gladiator Beast Gyzarus, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness, Judgment Dragon, Monster Reborn, Plaguespreader Zombie, Short Circuit, Ultimate Offering II. Limited Cards BRAIN CONTROLBREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIORCARD DESTRUCTIONCARD TROOPERCEASEFIRECELESTIA, LIGHTSWORN ANGELCYBER DRAGONDANDYLIONELEMENTAL HERO STRATOSGIANT TRUNADEGRAVITY BINDHEAVY STORMLEVEL LIMIT - AREA BMAGIC CYLINDERMARSHMALLONMEGAMORPHMIRROR FORCEMYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOONNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLENIGHT ASSAILANTOJAMA TRIORESCUE CATRETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONSANGANSCAPEGOATSPIRIT REAPERSWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHTTORRENTIAL TRIBUTETRAP DUSTSHOOTTREEBORN FROGWULF, LIGHTSWORN BEAST NEW! - Celestia, Lightsworn Angel, Rescue Cat, Wulf, Lightsworn Beast III. Semi-Limited CardsYou can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Extra Deck & Side Deck combined. DESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS NEW! - (nothing) NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Allure of Darkness, Chain Strike, D.D. Warrior Lady, Destiny Draw, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Gladiator Beast Bestiari, Goblin Zombie, Gold Sarcophagus, Goyo Guardian, Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest, Emergency Teleport, Fissure, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Magician of Faith, Magical Stone Excavation, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mezuki, Overload Fusion, Necroface, Mind Crush, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Reasoning, Reinforcements of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Right leg of the Forbidden One, Smashing Ground, Snipe Hunter, Transmigration Prophecy, United We Stand, Wall of Revealing Light I couldnt think of anything that wasnt limited that deserved to be limited. Im not sure where to put Baboon, and I feel Mali is the only card good at 2. Ive never seen Baboon played so I dunno how he would hurt/help the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Every meta deck except LS hates you now. But I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions. Every meta deck except LS hates you now. But I like it.I wanted to hit lightsworns more, but I dunno, I might make a small edit and put Celestia on here but I dunno if Celestia really deserves it. Only LS card that realy needs to be hit is JD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions. What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions. What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."? Unless Im misunderstanding you you aint makin sense. You get 1 2100 beatstick for bad maintenance, not exactly a big reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 -Ban Cyber End Dragon and put Metamorphosis back at 3, unless there are any other really threatening Fusions that can metamorphosed out there.-Limit Cyber Dragon, who is quite limitworthy, if not banworthy. His fusions had little to do with it.-I'm not too sure about Goyo coming back up to 3. Then again, Limiting it didn't do much either. Extra Deck monsters are pretty much 3 or 0 cards.-Green Baboon apparently now has a new ruling that makes it so that the destroyed Beast has to be destroyed by an effect, so he kinda sucks now. I guess semi is okay as long as that ruling is in place, otherwise limit.-As for how to stop Lightsworn, maybe Semi-Limit Lumina? This list looks okay with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions. What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."? Unless Im misunderstanding you you aint makin sense. You get 1 2100 beatstick for bad maintenance' date=' not exactly a big reward.[/quote'] It's a REALLY big reward though, because you still get a Normal Summon! =o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkillzKill Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo. Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions. What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."? Unless Im misunderstanding you you aint makin sense. You get 1 2100 beatstick for bad maintenance' date=' not exactly a big reward.[/quote'] I've actually wanted Cyber Dragon banned because of this reason. 2100 ATK on a Special Summon monster is pretty big, especially when it usually comes if that player is playing badly. However, it's limitation would still be okay. -Green Baboon apparently now has a new ruling that makes it so that the destroyed Beast has to be destroyed by an effect' date=' so he kinda sucks now. I guess semi is okay as long as that ruling is in place, otherwise limit.-As for how to stop Lightsworn, maybe Semi-Limit Lumina?[/quote'] Green Baboon can go to 3 and no one would care. It's new ruling kills it. Lumina doesn't need to be Semi-Limited. The only cards used in Lightsworn that need to be touched are Judgment Dragon, Chaos Sorcerer and Card of Safe Return, all of which have been banned on this list. The rest of the list seems okay though, however, it would have been better had there been more changes such as the banning of Brain Control, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness and unlimitation of Fissure, Smashing Ground, and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You banned exodia. WOW! Reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You banned exodia. WOW! Reasons? Because he's a lucksack. >_< We should get Black Whirlwind banned or limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arterey Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Something tells me monarchs would be meta XD. Why ban Exodia? Nice list though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You banned exodia. WOW! Reasons? Because he's a lucksack. >_< It's a 5 card OTK. Morphs have a lot of 3 card OTKs BAN MORPHS NAO!We should get Black Whirlwind banned or limited.Definately needs a limit' date=' but ban will be a little too harsh[/b'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 with mezuki and goyo at 3 plagespreadder should be banned otherwise looks liek a fun fun meta idc what crab helmet says :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 -Ban Cyber End Dragon and put Metamorphosis back at 3' date=' unless there are any other really threatening Fusions that can metamorphosed out there.-Limit Cyber Dragon, who is quite limitworthy, if not banworthy. His fusions had little to do with it.-I'm not too sure about Goyo coming back up to 3. Then again, Limiting it didn't do much either. Extra Deck monsters are pretty much 3 or 0 cards.-Green Baboon apparently now has a new ruling that makes it so that the destroyed Beast has to be destroyed by an effect, so he kinda sucks now. I guess semi is okay as long as that ruling is in place, otherwise limit.-As for how to stop Lightsworn, maybe Semi-Limit Lumina? This list looks okay with me.[/quote'] This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Limit Cyber and put Metamorphosis at three. Put Baboon at three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki ni Mau Majin Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Why is Card of Safe Return banned and limited? -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeaux Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Why is Card of Safe Return banned and limited? -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You banned Cyber Twin Dragon without unbanning Metamorphosis, which leads me to suspect that many of the moves on here are simply parrots. This suspicion is strengthened by some of the cards you left at 1 - you put Cyber Dragon at 3, but thought it was unsafe for The Transmigration Prophesy to be out there in multiples? If there is indeed a second problem with Lightlords, then it's not Celestia or Lumina - it's Wulf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 TOKEN CONTROL FTW! <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You left Fissure and Smashing Ground @ 1? You unlimited Cyber Dragon instead of banning it? Reasons, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Forbidden Cards: RESCUE CAT Limited Cards: BRAIN CONTROLD.D. WARRIOR LADYEMERGENCY TELEPORTFISSUREGORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESSNEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLEOJAMA TRIOPLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIERETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONSANGANSMASHING GROUNDSNIPE HUNTERTREEBORN FROGUNITED WE STANDWALL OF REVEALING LIGHT Semi-Limited Cards: GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST Reasons for all of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Fat Guy Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I hate banlist threads on YCM, they're either that one list that everyone shat back off of the combined lists of Pharoh Atem, Crab Helmet, etc (basically what flame dragon's looking for). OR They're a list like this, different, but based on original ideas. Lists like this are fun to look at, thinking about what the meta would be like on it and whatnot. However, these lists get bombarded by users like Flame Dragon and Judgment Dragon saying WHY IS THIS NOT AT WHAT IT IS ON OUR LISTS?!?!?!? GIVE REASONS FOR THE FOLLOWING (as they proceed to list everything that's different from the tooly list that gets regurgitated every time). Honestly, people, you turn every banlist thread into "Make Pharoh Atem's list or it's a bad list," which may be true, but people don't make their own lists so they can just be tweaked to Atem's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Star Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 I hate banlist threads on YCM' date=' they're either that one list that everyone shat back off of the combined lists of Pharoh Atem, Crab Helmet, etc (basically what flame dragon's looking for). OR They're a list like this, different, but based on original ideas. Lists like this are fun to look at, thinking about what the meta would be like on it and whatnot. However, these lists get bombarded by users like Flame Dragon and Judgment Dragon saying WHY IS THIS NOT AT WHAT IT IS ON OUR LISTS?!?!?!? GIVE REASONS FOR THE FOLLOWING (as they proceed to list everything that's different from the tooly list that gets regurgitated every time). Honestly, people, you turn every banlist thread into "Make Pharoh Atem's list or it's a bad list," which may be true, but people don't make their own lists so they can just be tweaked to Atem's.[/quote'] That may be true, but a Meta's not going to be good if cards like Cyber Dragon and Gorz, the Emissary of Darkness are limited/unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickle Me Emo Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 You banned Cyber Twin Dragon without unbanning Metamorphosis' date=' which leads me to suspect that many of the moves on here are simply parrots. This suspicion is strengthened by some of the cards you left at 1 - you put Cyber Dragon at 3, but thought it was unsafe for The Transmigration Prophesy to be out there in multiples? If there is indeed a second problem with Lightlords, then it's not Celestia or Lumina - it's Wulf.[/quote']I thought I took of Metamorphasis, guess not. Fixed now. I skimmed the Limited List slightly, and missed Transmigration Prophecy, a long with a lot of obvious cards. I put CyDra back at one though. Forbidden Cards: RESCUE CATI was unsure where to put this at first' date=' I kinda over-reacting to the US Nats, where game 3 was won on someones second turn for the last match. Im putting it at one for now, but even still I am unsure how long itll stay there.[/color'] Limited Cards: BRAIN CONTROLWhere should it be?D.D. WARRIOR LADYI was tired and missed a lot of 1-for-1s that shouldnt be on here.EMERGENCY TELEPORTWith CyDra at 3 this held a lot of speed at 3, and made Synchros more scary. However the numbers are now switchedFISSUREI was tired and missed a lot of 1-for-1s that shouldnt be on here.GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESSI dont know how I missed this guy...NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLEWhere should he be?OJAMA TRIOI cant seem to find this on yugioh wikia for some reason, and I dont remember the effect, so I left it as is.PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIEI banned it now but where would you put it?RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSIONPutting it at three kinda scares me cause then this meta might be dominated by Macro-Monarchs (we all know Monarchs will be top tier with this list, dont deny it), however putting it at 0 is to harsh for it.SANGANI wanted to ban this but for some reason I feel its fine at 1SMASHING GROUNDI was tired and missed a lot of 1-for-1s that shouldnt be on here.SNIPE HUNTERI missed him unfortunatelyTREEBORN FROGIm really unsure of where he belongsUNITED WE STANDAn obvious miss on my partWALL OF REVEALING LIGHTI didnt know what it did and was to lazy to wikia it last night. Its at 3 now. Semi-Limited Cards: GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FORESTI said in the original post I didnt know where to put this cause Ive NEVER seen it played. Its at 3 now. Reasons for all of these. I updated the list a bit, to damage Lightsworns more and fix my mistakes from posting this at like 2am the same night I went to disney land and was so tired I could barely hold my eyes open. updates: Banned:GorzPlaguespreader Limited:CelestiaCyDraRescue KittyWulf Unlimited:MetamorphasisDDWLFissureSmashing GroundE-TeleWall of Revealing Light edit: Also banned Des Croaking and Short Circuit, Im trying to make a meta with nicely lengthed games and as a result am trying to eliminate OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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