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ALL-OUT ATTACKS

BLACK LUSTER SOLDIER - ENVOY OF THE BEGINNING

BRIONIC, DRAGON OF ICE BOUNDARY

BUTTERFLY DAGGER - ELMA

CALL OF THE HAUNTED

CARD OF SAFE RETURN

CHANGE OF HEART

CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON - ENVOY OF THE END

CONFISCATION

CHAOS SORCERER

CHIMERATECH FORTRESS DRAGON

CHIMERATECH OVERDRAGON

CRUSH CARD VIRUS

CYBER JAR

CYBER-STEIN

CYBER TWIN DRAGON

DARK ARMED DRAGON

DARK HOLE

DARK MAGICIAN OF CHAOS

DARK STRIKE FIGHTER

DELINQUENT DUO

DEMISE, KING OF ARMAGEDDON

DES CROAKING

DESTINY HERO - DISK COMMANDER

DIMENSION FUSION

EXCHANGE OF THE SPIRIT

EXODIA THE FORBIDDEN ONE

FIBER JAR

GLADIATOR BEAST GYZARUS

GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS

GRACEFUL CHARITY

HARPIE'S FEATHER DUSTER

IMPERIAL ORDER

JUDGMENT DRAGON

LAST TURN

LAST WILL

MAGICAL SCIENTIST

MAKYURA THE DESTRUCTOR

MIRAGE OF NIGHTMARE

MONSTER REBORN

PAINFUL CHOICE

PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE

POT OF GREED

PREMATURE BURIAL

RAIGEKI

RING OF DESTRUCTION

SHORT CIRCUIT

SINISTER SERPENT

SNATCH STEAL

THE FORCEFUL SENTRY

THOUSAND-EYES RESTRICT

TIME SEAL

TRIBE-INFECTING VIRUS

TSUKUYOMI

ULTIMATE OFFERING

VICTORY DRAGON

WITCH OF THE BLACK FOREST

YATA-GARASU

 

NEW! - All-out Attacks, Brionic, Dragon of the Ice Boundary, Card of Safe Return, Chaos Sorcerer, Chimeratech Fortress Dragon, Chimeratech Overdragon, Crush Card Virus, Cyber Twin Dragon, Dark Armed Dragon, Dark Strike Fighter, Demise, King of Armageddon, Des Croaking, Exodia the Forbidden One, Gladiator Beast Gyzarus, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness, Judgment Dragon, Monster Reborn, Plaguespreader Zombie, Short Circuit, Ultimate Offering

 

II. Limited Cards

 

BRAIN CONTROL

BREAKER THE MAGICAL WARRIOR

CARD DESTRUCTION

CARD TROOPER

CEASEFIRE

CELESTIA, LIGHTSWORN ANGEL

CYBER DRAGON

DANDYLION

ELEMENTAL HERO STRATOS

GIANT TRUNADE

GRAVITY BIND

HEAVY STORM

LEVEL LIMIT - AREA B

MAGIC CYLINDER

MARSHMALLON

MEGAMORPH

MIRROR FORCE

MYSTICAL SPACE TYPHOON

NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE

NIGHT ASSAILANT

OJAMA TRIO

RESCUE CAT

RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION

SANGAN

SCAPEGOAT

SPIRIT REAPER

SWORDS OF REVEALING LIGHT

TORRENTIAL TRIBUTE

TRAP DUSTSHOOT

TREEBORN FROG

WULF, LIGHTSWORN BEAST

 

NEW! - Celestia, Lightsworn Angel, Rescue Cat, Wulf, Lightsworn Beast

 

III. Semi-Limited Cards

You can ONLY use two of the following cards in the Deck, Extra Deck & Side Deck combined.

 

DESTINY HERO - MALICIOUS

 

NEW! - (nothing)

 

NEW! - The following cards are no longer Limited: Advanced Ritual Art, Allure of Darkness, Chain Strike, D.D. Warrior Lady, Destiny Draw, Foolish Burial, Future Fusion, Gladiator Beast Bestiari, Goblin Zombie, Gold Sarcophagus, Goyo Guardian, Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest, Emergency Teleport, Fissure, Left Arm of the Forbidden One, Left Leg of the Forbidden One, Magician of Faith, Magical Stone Excavation, Mask of Darkness, Metamorphosis, Mezuki, Overload Fusion, Necroface, Mind Crush, Raiza the Storm Monarch, Reasoning, Reinforcements of the Army, Right Arm of the Forbidden One, Right leg of the Forbidden One, Smashing Ground, Snipe Hunter, Transmigration Prophecy, United We Stand, Wall of Revealing Light

 

 

 

I couldnt think of anything that wasnt limited that deserved to be limited. Im not sure where to put Baboon, and I feel Mali is the only card good at 2. Ive never seen Baboon played so I dunno how he would hurt/help the meta.

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Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D

 

Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.

Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions.

 

Every meta deck except LS hates you now. But I like it.

I wanted to hit lightsworns more, but I dunno, I might make a small edit and put Celestia on here but I dunno if Celestia really deserves it. Only LS card that realy needs to be hit is JD.

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Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D

 

Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.

Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions.

 

What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."?

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Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D

 

Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.

Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions.

 

What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."?

 

Unless Im misunderstanding you you aint makin sense. You get 1 2100 beatstick for bad maintenance, not exactly a big reward.

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-Ban Cyber End Dragon and put Metamorphosis back at 3, unless there are any other really threatening Fusions that can metamorphosed out there.

-Limit Cyber Dragon, who is quite limitworthy, if not banworthy. His fusions had little to do with it.

-I'm not too sure about Goyo coming back up to 3. Then again, Limiting it didn't do much either. Extra Deck monsters are pretty much 3 or 0 cards.

-Green Baboon apparently now has a new ruling that makes it so that the destroyed Beast has to be destroyed by an effect, so he kinda sucks now. I guess semi is okay as long as that ruling is in place, otherwise limit.

-As for how to stop Lightsworn, maybe Semi-Limit Lumina?

 

This list looks okay with me.

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Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D

 

Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.

Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions.

 

What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."?

 

Unless Im misunderstanding you you aint makin sense. You get 1 2100 beatstick for bad maintenance' date=' not exactly a big reward.

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It's a REALLY big reward though, because you still get a Normal Summon! =o

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Well I think it's a swell banlist and that you should be fairly proud. SUPER! ;D

 

Cyber Dragon's my only issue. Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo.

 

 

Ive never seen a reason for Cyber Dragon to be anyone besides at 3 excluding its fusions.

 

What about "Too much field presence to reward bad maintenance of field presence earlier yo."?

 

Unless Im misunderstanding you you aint makin sense. You get 1 2100 beatstick for bad maintenance' date=' not exactly a big reward.

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I've actually wanted Cyber Dragon banned because of this reason. 2100 ATK on a Special Summon monster is pretty big, especially when it usually comes if that player is playing badly. However, it's limitation would still be okay.

 

-Green Baboon apparently now has a new ruling that makes it so that the destroyed Beast has to be destroyed by an effect' date=' so he kinda sucks now. I guess semi is okay as long as that ruling is in place, otherwise limit.

-As for how to stop Lightsworn, maybe Semi-Limit Lumina?

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Green Baboon can go to 3 and no one would care. It's new ruling kills it.

 

Lumina doesn't need to be Semi-Limited. The only cards used in Lightsworn that need to be touched are Judgment Dragon, Chaos Sorcerer and Card of Safe Return, all of which have been banned on this list.

 

The rest of the list seems okay though, however, it would have been better had there been more changes such as the banning of Brain Control, Gorz the Emissary of Darkness and unlimitation of Fissure, Smashing Ground, and others.

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-Ban Cyber End Dragon and put Metamorphosis back at 3' date=' unless there are any other really threatening Fusions that can metamorphosed out there.

-Limit Cyber Dragon, who is quite limitworthy, if not banworthy. His fusions had little to do with it.

-I'm not too sure about Goyo coming back up to 3. Then again, Limiting it didn't do much either. Extra Deck monsters are pretty much 3 or 0 cards.

-Green Baboon apparently now has a new ruling that makes it so that the destroyed Beast has to be destroyed by an effect, so he kinda sucks now. I guess semi is okay as long as that ruling is in place, otherwise limit.

-As for how to stop Lightsworn, maybe Semi-Limit Lumina?

 

This list looks okay with me.

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You banned Cyber Twin Dragon without unbanning Metamorphosis, which leads me to suspect that many of the moves on here are simply parrots. This suspicion is strengthened by some of the cards you left at 1 - you put Cyber Dragon at 3, but thought it was unsafe for The Transmigration Prophesy to be out there in multiples?

 

If there is indeed a second problem with Lightlords, then it's not Celestia or Lumina - it's Wulf.

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Forbidden Cards:

RESCUE CAT

 

Limited Cards:

BRAIN CONTROL

D.D. WARRIOR LADY

EMERGENCY TELEPORT

FISSURE

GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS

NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE

OJAMA TRIO

PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE

RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION

SANGAN

SMASHING GROUND

SNIPE HUNTER

TREEBORN FROG

UNITED WE STAND

WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT

 

Semi-Limited Cards:

GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST

 

Reasons for all of these.

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I hate banlist threads on YCM, they're either that one list that everyone shat back off of the combined lists of Pharoh Atem, Crab Helmet, etc (basically what flame dragon's looking for).

 

OR

 

They're a list like this, different, but based on original ideas. Lists like this are fun to look at, thinking about what the meta would be like on it and whatnot. However, these lists get bombarded by users like Flame Dragon and Judgment Dragon saying WHY IS THIS NOT AT WHAT IT IS ON OUR LISTS?!?!?!? GIVE REASONS FOR THE FOLLOWING (as they proceed to list everything that's different from the tooly list that gets regurgitated every time).

 

Honestly, people, you turn every banlist thread into "Make Pharoh Atem's list or it's a bad list," which may be true, but people don't make their own lists so they can just be tweaked to Atem's.

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I hate banlist threads on YCM' date=' they're either that one list that everyone shat back off of the combined lists of Pharoh Atem, Crab Helmet, etc (basically what flame dragon's looking for).

 

OR

 

They're a list like this, different, but based on original ideas. Lists like this are fun to look at, thinking about what the meta would be like on it and whatnot. However, these lists get bombarded by users like Flame Dragon and Judgment Dragon saying WHY IS THIS NOT AT WHAT IT IS ON OUR LISTS?!?!?!? GIVE REASONS FOR THE FOLLOWING (as they proceed to list everything that's different from the tooly list that gets regurgitated every time).

 

Honestly, people, you turn every banlist thread into "Make Pharoh Atem's list or it's a bad list," which may be true, but people don't make their own lists so they can just be tweaked to Atem's.

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That may be true, but a Meta's not going to be good if cards like Cyber Dragon and Gorz, the Emissary of Darkness are limited/unlimited.

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You banned Cyber Twin Dragon without unbanning Metamorphosis' date=' which leads me to suspect that many of the moves on here are simply parrots. This suspicion is strengthened by some of the cards you left at 1 - you put Cyber Dragon at 3, but thought it was unsafe for The Transmigration Prophesy to be out there in multiples?

 

If there is indeed a second problem with Lightlords, then it's not Celestia or Lumina - it's Wulf.

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I thought I took of Metamorphasis, guess not. Fixed now. I skimmed the Limited List slightly, and missed Transmigration Prophecy, a long with a lot of obvious cards. I put CyDra back at one though.

 

Forbidden Cards:

RESCUE CAT

I was unsure where to put this at first' date=' I kinda over-reacting to the US Nats, where game 3 was won on someones second turn for the last match. Im putting it at one for now, but even still I am unsure how long itll stay there.[/color']

 

Limited Cards:

BRAIN CONTROL

Where should it be?

D.D. WARRIOR LADY

I was tired and missed a lot of 1-for-1s that shouldnt be on here.

EMERGENCY TELEPORT

With CyDra at 3 this held a lot of speed at 3, and made Synchros more scary. However the numbers are now switched

FISSURE

I was tired and missed a lot of 1-for-1s that shouldnt be on here.

GORZ THE EMISSARY OF DARKNESS

I dont know how I missed this guy...

NEO-SPACIAN GRAND MOLE

Where should he be?

OJAMA TRIO

I cant seem to find this on yugioh wikia for some reason, and I dont remember the effect, so I left it as is.

PLAGUESPREADER ZOMBIE

I banned it now but where would you put it?

RETURN FROM THE DIFFERENT DIMENSION

Putting it at three kinda scares me cause then this meta might be dominated by Macro-Monarchs (we all know Monarchs will be top tier with this list, dont deny it), however putting it at 0 is to harsh for it.

SANGAN

I wanted to ban this but for some reason I feel its fine at 1

SMASHING GROUND

I was tired and missed a lot of 1-for-1s that shouldnt be on here.

SNIPE HUNTER

I missed him unfortunately

TREEBORN FROG

Im really unsure of where he belongs

UNITED WE STAND

An obvious miss on my part

WALL OF REVEALING LIGHT

I didnt know what it did and was to lazy to wikia it last night. Its at 3 now.

 

Semi-Limited Cards:

GREEN BABOON, DEFENDER OF THE FOREST

I said in the original post I didnt know where to put this cause Ive NEVER seen it played. Its at 3 now.

 

Reasons for all of these.

 

I updated the list a bit, to damage Lightsworns more and fix my mistakes from posting this at like 2am the same night I went to disney land and was so tired I could barely hold my eyes open.

 

updates:

 

Banned:

Gorz

Plaguespreader

 

Limited:

Celestia

CyDra

Rescue Kitty

Wulf

 

Unlimited:

Metamorphasis

DDWL

Fissure

Smashing Ground

E-Tele

Wall of Revealing Light

 

edit:

 

Also banned Des Croaking and Short Circuit, Im trying to make a meta with nicely lengthed games and as a result am trying to eliminate OTKs.

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