BulletMan Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Yeah. We've discussed this alot, but where does this belong on the banlist? And I got this card today. Discuss old news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 If you got it today that means I should get it soon :) On Topic: It should be at 3. It doesn't make for a good beatstick most of the time and the brain controle effect, while being good, has limited uses and isn't as easy to use as one may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnkoMaun Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Makes infinite cards usable for the easiest beatstick to summon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff! Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 HotU, lotsa Vanillas and a little suiciding = this guy as a MASSIVE BEATER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnkoMaun Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 HotU' date=' lotsa Vanillas and a little suiciding = this guy as a MASSIVE BEATER.[/quote'] exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 IMO, its better in Traditional Play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Wolf Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 i would say limited. Hes easier than Gorz to Summon. U can pitch a monster from your hand to brain control a monster of the same level; oh and god FORBID u take a tuner! because he can easily manipulate his level to anything in ur graveyard at the time, so u can synchro into anything u feel like at the time. also if u dont take a tuner its not like the monster has doesnt have restriction like not being able to attack or be tributed. Sadly he isn't a big beater like Gorz, because ATK matters so much in Yugimans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 better than gorz 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 this card came out? 0_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnSlaUghT Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 It should be at 1 along his other rigged beatstick companion Gorz Off-topic: you notice this has no code at the bottom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 better than gorz 0 I hope you're being very sarcastic here. This card is worthless. Let it be at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkillzKill Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 better than gorz 0 I hope you're being very sarcastic here. This card is worthless. Let it be at 3. The card isn't worthless, however, I do agree that the card should be at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Easy to get out.Dark.Brain Control effect nearly impossible to uselevel changing effect has limited use This card is fine at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 WAHT!you think this card is worthless? then you are all idiots, especially if you think gors is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkillzKill Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 WAHT!you think this card is worthless? then you are all idiots' date=' especially if you think gors is good[/quote'] The only person who said Tragoedia was worthless was HORUS. Gorz IS better than this card. As Static said, there is only limited use to all of this card's effects. It can be summoned easily, but it's attack is usually low. To get it to a decent attack, you will need 3 cards in hand, and that's a bit hard to maintain during mid game. Gorz on the other hand has a solid 2700 ATK which never changes, and a token to go with it. Although the attack of the token is not always the same, when preventing an OTK, it's ATK can become even higher than Gorz. Gorz, unlike Tragoedia, can turn a game around and is banworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yeah, Gorz > Tragodia. But hear me out - I think that Gorz isn't that great nowadays, IMO. Think of it this way. You're now facing GB's. You have a cleared field. They attack, well, with obviously a GB. You drop gorz. They swap out for murmillo. Destroy Gorz. You're now left with the token which they can probably kill anyway. You're now facing BW's. You have a cleared field. They attack, well, with obviously a BW. You drop gorz. They special summon gale. Half gorz. They can now kill it easy. You're facing LS. You have a cleared field due to JD. They attack with the JD. You drop gorz. They're like "WTFMAHJDNO", you draw, enter your battle phase, kill off the JD. End. You're like "YAYIKILLEDHISJD" and then they either drop another one, or bring the killed one back. A lot of arguements that I've heard is that Gorz protects you because they have to waste resources to kill off gorz, or they can't OTK that turn. Yeah they have to waste resources to kill Gorz, but the resources GB's, BW's, and LS use are laughably easy to bring out. As for the 'they can't OTK that turn', there's a little card that we use this format, it's called 'Threatining Roar'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yugiohrulez! Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 That is a strong card right there. Infinate cards, revival jam, jam defender. great combo for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yeah' date=' Gorz > Tragodia. But hear me out - I think that Gorz isn't that great nowadays, IMO. Think of it this way. You're now facing GB's. You have a cleared field. They attack, well, with obviously a GB. You drop gorz. They swap out for murmillo. Destroy Gorz. You're now left with the token which they can probably kill anyway. You're now facing BW's. You have a cleared field. They attack, well, with obviously a BW. You drop gorz. They special summon gale. Half gorz. They can now kill it easy. You're facing LS. You have a cleared field due to JD. They attack with the JD. You drop gorz. They're like "WTFMAHJDNO", you draw, enter your battle phase, kill off the JD. End. You're like "YAYIKILLEDHISJD" and then they either drop another one, or bring the killed one back.[b']You know, they could just activate JD's effect again during Main Phase 2. If they couldn't, then the attack from gorz could probably win the game.[/b] A lot of arguements that I've heard is that Gorz protects you because they have to waste resources to kill off gorz, or they can't OTK that turn. Yeah they have to waste resources to kill Gorz, but the resources GB's, BW's, and LS use are laughably easy to bring out. As for the 'they can't OTK that turn', there's a little card that we use this format, it's called 'Threatening Roar'. Tragoedia gets beat in all those situations too.Gorz will always be a great, if not banworthy, card. Judging a card's power based on the meta isn't a great thing to do because the meta is based on the actual list made by Konami. Either way, Gorz is more situational, but also better than Tragoedia. I've never used Tragoedia, but it appears 3 is a good position or, if necessary, probably 2. @Yugiohrulez!, you're replicating the God Five combo, but using Tragoedia instead of Slifer. Totally pro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 loling at the people Actually discussing his lolatkcapabilities. Card is great, Broken with Book of moon. A definite 1, we'll discuss ban later. EDIT (EVERYBODY LISTEN!): You guys do know the brain control is permanent right? o.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAELOVE Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 I have a link to my thoughts on Tragoedia here:http://go-ygo.com/thoughts-tragoedia/ It's too long for this forum. Let me know what you think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 That is a strong card right there. Infinate cards' date=' revival jam, jam defender. great combo for him.[/quote'] -Inserts LOLYCM picture here- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 That is a strong card right there. Infinate cards' date=' revival jam, jam defender. great combo for him.[/quote'] -Inserts LOLYCM & LOLWIKIA picture here-Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 That is a strong card right there. Infinate cards' date=' revival jam, jam defender. great combo for him.[/quote'] -Inserts LOLYCM & LOLWIKIA picture here-Fixed. Now if only me, Father Wolf, and Corporal Atlas posted our 3-pic lolycm combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDKoopa Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 YVD anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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