The Anti-Noob Project - When facing noobs, be prepared...

[burnpsy]

burnpsy' date=' why don't you just make it as a word document or PDF file and upload it to a file sharing site?

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That will be its final form. That said, people are helping so we may as well have it posted in pieces until it's done, so errors get removed.

[werewolfjedi]

this is why I don't play noobs, or when I have to, I just beat their face in until they stop trying.

 

an earthbound usualy does the job to make them quit.

[burnpsy]

this is why I don't play noobs' date=' or when I have to, I just beat their face in until they stop trying.

 

an earthbound usualy does the job to make them quit.

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I don't want them to quit. I just want to beat them to a pulp while they don't break rules every 3 seconds.

[-Griffin]

Macro Cosmos and the obvious problems from cards that need to be "sent to the Graveyard".

Do you remember our discussion about what a COST is? If you don't, or haven't read it, go check the Dark World section then look back, I'll give you a moment....

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Got it? Good. If a card can't complete it's cost, it can't activate.

Some cards have a cost like this, "Send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard to..." the COST here, is sending cards to the Graveyard. If Macros Cosmos is on the field, they'd be sent to the Removed from Play Zone. This means they can't be sent to the Graveyard, the card doesn't complete it's cost, and you can never activate it in the first place.

It's fine for a card to sent to the Graveyard as an EFFECT, though. Foolish Burial says this:

"Select 1 monster from your Deck and send it to the Graveyard."

That's not a cost, so you can still use it, but Macro will remove the selected card from play.

 

Proof of the fact that Swords of Revealing Light stays on the field for its entire effect.

This guide is written by a forum of nerds who spend their whole lives doing nothing but playing Yugioh. We know what we're saying and Swords stays around. If you somehow think you know better, you're wrong, but here's proof anyway:

It SAYS ON THE CARD that it REMAINS ON THE FIELD

Cards do what the effect says, really, don't even try and argue this one, it's simple.

 

An explanation of Spell Speed.

Ok

Monster Effects and Spells are generally Spell Speed 1

Traps (and Quickplays, because they're pretty much traps) are Spell Speed 2, except Counter Traps (those are Spell Speed 3)

 

You can use Spell Speed 1 cards during your Main Phase, when there's no chain.

You can use Spell Speed 2 at any time, unless the rules say otherwise (like you just set a trap... like Scrap Iron... which just set itself, by its effect, which sets.) You can also activate them in response to another card, if you do, the most recent one activates its effect first, and then it goes backwards towards the begging of a 'chain'

Spell Speed 3 is exactly the same as 2, except you can't chain Spell Speed 2 to them.

 

Turn Player Priority

If two players want to activate something, the question pops up, who gets the chance to use it first?

If there's a CHAIN going on (something that has one of those Spell Speeds I mentioned) then it's the person who didn't activate the last part of the chain. Otherwise, it's the turn player. Since Summoning doesn't start a chain, the following can happen:

Player 1 Summons a monster on his own turn.

Player 2 wants to use Trap Hole.

Player 1 wants to use the monster's effect.

Is there a chain? NO

Got that? Right, no chain, player 1, the turn player, gets 'priority' to go first.

For some reason, (non-quickplay) Spells don't get this advantage, no real reason why, they just don't get priority.

 

Chaining a card to its own destruction.

Player 1 uses Heavy Storm to kill all Spell and Trap Cards on the field.

Are they all dead when he uses it? No. Not until the chain it is in finishes.

This means that the other cards are still there. You can use all the face-down cards (unless they are (non-quickplay) spells). So you could still chain your Comp. Evac. Device to send a monster back to the hand. THEN, when any face-down cards players want to activate are finished with, Heavy Storm kills the rest.

[burnpsy]

Thanks for the extra, Griffin.

[-Griffin]

No problem, I'll probably end up doing them all over the next few days >_>;;;

[burnpsy]

No problem' date=' I'll probably end up doing them all over the next few days >_>;;;

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<.<

>.<

>.>

^.^

V.V

 

Well, doing a bunch is nice! :D

 

BTW, nice one on the Swords. xD

[Captain Lawless]

• You have synchro rules in there?
  I've played kids who:
  -Think it's equal to or lower than the level
  -won't let you use tokens
  -think it's a tribute
  -wont let me sync w/ macro out
  -mind control confusion, etc
   
  
• One thing I like playing online about more than IRL, easy
  to prove newbs wrong. unless you don't believe you, some are like that..
  (I don't even play IRL at all anymore, i'm selling my cards xD)
  

[burnpsy]

Yes, Synchro is, in fact, on the list.

[「tea.leaf」]

I really wish we had databases instead of judges. = =

[burnpsy]

I really wish we had databases instead of judges. = =

 

Agreed.

 

You know what would be rather sweet? Some sort of device that can wirelessly look up any ruling, etc, without having to hunt around the internet on one's cellphone.

 

That would never happen though.

[Ecoboy1324]

I really wish we had databases instead of judges. = =

 

Agreed.

 

You know what would be rather sweet? Some sort of device that can wirelessly look up any ruling' date=' etc, without having to hunt around the internet on one's cellphone.

 

That would never happen though.

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Mabey i can design a app for that

[Mysty]

Nomi Monsters:

There is a type of monster who's text says this: "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by..." These monsters are 'Nomi'. That means that nothing is going to put them on the field except the condition set on the card' date=' really, nothing at all, don't try and get around that.

 

What obvious thing did I forget there? Anything else to write?

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This:

Nomis can be brought back by cards that say "ignoring the Summoning conditions". However, in order for the monster to be summoned from the Graveyard this way, it must have been Special Summoned correctly before.

[.Frostpaw]

off topic: bumpsy how do u get your morph pic to change everytime i refresh my interet page???

 

The pokemon picture in his sig does the same thing if you focus on watching it.

[Aximil]

OMG! I FEEL LIKE CONTRIBUTING!

 

The ruling on not being able to search out "?" ATK and/or DEF monsters, such as The Wicked Avatar, with monster like Sangan.

[burnpsy]

Nomi Monsters:

There is a type of monster who's text says this: "This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by..." These monsters are 'Nomi'. That means that nothing is going to put them on the field except the condition set on the card' date=' really, nothing at all, don't try and get around that.

 

What obvious thing did I forget there? Anything else to write?

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This:

Nomis can be brought back by cards that say "ignoring the Summoning conditions". However, in order for the monster to be summoned from the Graveyard this way, it must have been Special Summoned correctly before.

 

That's an important piece of info! xD

 

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

OMG! I FEEL LIKE CONTRIBUTING!

 

The ruling on not being able to search out "?" ATK and/or DEF monsters' date=' such as The Wicked Avatar, with monster like Sangan.

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Sure.

[Aximil]

OMG! I FEEL LIKE CONTRIBUTING!

 

The ruling on not being able to search out "?" ATK and/or DEF monsters' date=' such as The Wicked Avatar, with monster like Sangan.

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Sure.

 

Sorry if it's nothing much. I just felt like helping and almost everything else has been covered.

[burnpsy]

OMG! I FEEL LIKE CONTRIBUTING!

 

The ruling on not being able to search out "?" ATK and/or DEF monsters' date=' such as The Wicked Avatar, with monster like Sangan.

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Sure.

 

Sorry if it's nothing much. I just felt like helping and almost everything else has been covered.

 

Don't worry about it. Any help is enough.

 

either way, everyone has to do just a little legwork separately to do the part about the rulings. Finishing the other parts makes it easier on everyone who uses it as a whole.

 

"There are no small parts, only small actors."

[Aximil]

Well, it seems like you three have this covered. I'm still a bit nubbish when it comes to timing and stuffs during the Battle Phase anyway.

[daboss144]

Wait, so you can't foolish burial then LV. Mod?? I am glad I know that.

[.Frostpaw]

[spoiler=Skill Drain and what effects are negated.]

 

 

While “Skill Drain” is active on the field, effects like those of Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragon, and Armageddon Knight cannot be activated as they would remain on the field. Card effects like those of “Lonefire Blossom”, “Tytannial, Princess of Camellias”, and “Rescue Cat” can be activated while Skill Drain is active on the field. Card effects that say to tribute a card can easily get past “Skill Drain” by tributing themselves, instead of tributing another monster, as tributing another monster would leave the monster that you activated the effect of on the Field, where their effects will then proceed to be negated. But if you tribute the monster that you’re activating the effect of, they are no longer on the field, so they are unaffected by “Skill Drain.”

 

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[spoiler=Destroy =/= Negate]

 

When a card is activated with an effect like those of “Solemn Judgment,” “Dark Bribe,” or “Bottomless Trap Hole,” it’s effect is not Negated when it is targeted by the effect of a card like “Dust Tornado,” or “Mystical Space Typhoon,” but it will be destroyed after it’s effect resolves. If a monster like “Elemental Hero Stratos,” or “Black Rose Dragon” are summoned, their effects still activate even if the opponent would activate “Bottomless Trap Hole,” or “Torriential Tribute,” the effect of the summoned monster will still activate, and the monster will remain on the field until it’s effect(s) have finished activating.

 

 

 

If anyone spots a problem in this, feel free to point it out. If it needs to be longer, feel free to tell me Burnpsy, and I'll try to lengthen this part of the binder.

[burnpsy]

[spoiler=Skill Drain and what effects are negated.]

 

 

While “Skill Drain” is active on the field' date=' effects like those of Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragon, and Armageddon Knight cannot be activated as they would remain on the field. Card effects like those of “Lonefire Blossom”, “Tytannial, Princess of Camellias”, and “Rescue Cat” can be activated while Skill Drain is active on the field. Card effects that say to tribute a card can easily get past “Skill Drain” by tributing themselves, instead of tributing another monster, as tributing another monster would leave the monster that you activated the effect of on the Field, where their effects will then proceed to be negated. But if you tribute the monster that you’re activating the effect of, they are no longer on the field, so they are unaffected by “Skill Drain.”

 

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[spoiler=Destroy =/= Negate]

 

When a card is activated with an effect like those of “Solemn Judgment,” “Dark Bribe,” or “Bottomless Trap Hole,” it’s effect is not Negated when it is targeted by the effect of a card like “Dust Tornado,” or “Mystical Space Typhoon,” but it will be destroyed after it’s effect resolves. If a monster like “Elemental Hero Stratos,” or “Black Rose Dragon” are summoned, their effects still activate even if the opponent would activate “Bottomless Trap Hole,” or “Torriential Tribute,” the effect of the summoned monster will still activate, and the monster will remain on the field until it’s effect(s) have finished activating.

 

 

 

If anyone spots a problem in this, feel free to point it out. If it needs to be longer, feel free to tell me Burnpsy, and I'll try to lengthen this part of the binder.

 

Actually, those points are small and quick enough to fit onto a single page, which is good.

[.Frostpaw]

[spoiler=Skill Drain and what effects are negated.]

 

 

While “Skill Drain” is active on the field' date=' effects like those of Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragon, and Armageddon Knight cannot be activated as they would remain on the field. Card effects like those of “Lonefire Blossom”, “Tytannial, Princess of Camellias”, and “Rescue Cat” can be activated while Skill Drain is active on the field. Card effects that say to tribute a card can easily get past “Skill Drain” by tributing themselves, instead of tributing another monster, as tributing another monster would leave the monster that you activated the effect of on the Field, where their effects will then proceed to be negated. But if you tribute the monster that you’re activating the effect of, they are no longer on the field, so they are unaffected by “Skill Drain.”

 

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[spoiler=Destroy =/= Negate]

 

When a card is activated with an effect like those of “Solemn Judgment,” “Dark Bribe,” or “Bottomless Trap Hole,” it’s effect is not Negated when it is targeted by the effect of a card like “Dust Tornado,” or “Mystical Space Typhoon,” but it will be destroyed after it’s effect resolves. If a monster like “Elemental Hero Stratos,” or “Black Rose Dragon” are summoned, their effects still activate even if the opponent would activate “Bottomless Trap Hole,” or “Torriential Tribute,” the effect of the summoned monster will still activate, and the monster will remain on the field until it’s effect(s) have finished activating.

 

 

 

If anyone spots a problem in this, feel free to point it out. If it needs to be longer, feel free to tell me Burnpsy, and I'll try to lengthen this part of the binder.

 

Actually, those points are small and quick enough to fit onto a single page, which is good.

 

Thanx. I'm always annoyed when I have to read through a huge wall of text when trying to find a ruling before a tourney. The judge at my locals doesn't like me. At all. He's not an official judge, but the last one was fired for some reason. But because I don't completely trust him, as he is also a duelist, which would allow him to take advantage of being a "judge" while dueling someone. I don't doubt that he would cheat in a duel against me. Therefore, I usually tend to read 500 pages of text trying to find a certain ruling before every hobby league. He rips everyone off in trades too, which is another reason that I don't beleive him that often.

[-Griffin]

Deck, Extra Deck, and Side Deck size limits (includes Harpie Lady, A Legendary Ocean, and similar cards affected by the name rule.)

 

The Extra Deck contains Synchro Monsters and Fusion Monsters, it can have a maximum of 15 cards, any number under that is fine.

The main Deck may contain any card that can't go in the Extra Deck and must contain 40 or more cards but no more than 60. (Hint to the players who read this, lower = better, try and only have 40).

The Side Deck can contain 0 or 15 cards which could fit into the main Deck.

The Extra Deck cannot have more than 3 of the same card, nor can the main Deck or Side Deck.

You also can't have more than 3 cards with the same name when you put the Decks together (eg, 3 Batteryman AA in the Main Deck and 2 in the Side Deck).

Some cards say that their name is 'treated as' another card. If a card says it in a way that makes them treated as a different name while in the main Deck, then they count as that card when deciding if you have 3 in the Deck.

EG. A Legendary Ocean is treated as "Umi". You have 3 ALO in your main Deck, that counts as 3 "Umi" too, so no Umi in any Deck. Same applies to Harpie Lady 1-3 and NEX monsters.

[burnpsy]

^Edit that to explain why stuff like Proto-CyDra aren't affected, please.

 

>.< That sucks, orihime.

 

Anyways, let's see where we stand here in terms of guide completion:

 

8 remaining

3 to be finished

15 done

 

We're just over 1/2 way there!

 

I'm particularily annoyed at how time consuming the first thing on the list is for each person who wants to effectively use this thing. Everyone would have to do it on their own, and it takes ages.