Father Wolf Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Anyways discuss Vayu, and where he needs to be on the b& list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 banned for making quick and easy BW synchro beatsticks with practically no restrictions and is easy to dump into the the Grave with other cards and BfaDD abuses it even further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 I don't think it's ban worthy, semi doesn't do crap, but then limiting would kill it entirely... I have not flippin clue :? Edit: *is reminded by Prime the nigh brokenness of Vayu* Limit? But then we should really be looking at this from the 3/0 perspective... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted October 24, 2009 Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Get rid of the Oppression Vayu ruling and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Get rid of the Oppression Vayu ruling and see what happens. It isn't a ruling, it's the fact that Vayu doesn't remove itself until resolution, you would have to errata Vayu itself, not the ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMan Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Vayu would still be abusable like heck against Decks who didn't run Oppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Vayu needs to go byebye, it won a shonen jump. See what happened to all of the other shonen jump winners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'm seeing Burial from a Different Dimension as a larger problem. It can inherit multiple useful effects without a cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0b3rt Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 BfaDD isn't a problem, the problem is that the Synchro summon and removal of said cards becomes part of it's effect instead of a cost, as such Oppression can't negate and destroy the synchro monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 BfaDD isn't a problem' date=' the problem is that the Synchro summon and removal of said cards becomes part of it's effect instead of a cost, as such Oppression can't negate and destroy the synchro monster.[/quote'] You haven't stated why Burial isn't a problem, you haven't stated why monsters Synchro Summoned via Vayu not being affected by Oppression's a problem, and you haven't stated why Oppression itself isn't a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Vayu is fine. I cant believe people are now getting upset over vanillas. _-_ *Facepalm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I cant believe people are now getting upset over vanillas. When it's an easy 2000~ish beatstick at the cost of nothing in your hand or field, yeah it's a pretty big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 sigh. Go ahead, you guys already chopped the left ball of black wings off with gale, you might as well finish the rest with Vayu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 sigh. Go ahead' date=' you guys already chopped the left ball of black wings off with gale, you might as well finish the rest with Vayu.[/quote'] Well, techincally they weren't hurt THAT bad with the limit of Gale, but I get your point; however, I'm going to side with Nate on this though Pika makes a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Logically, its bad for the game. Im just being bias. Look how long LS got to play with their toys. Cant BW's just play a little while longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Vayu is a good tuner for big synchros but its down side is the loss of that summoned synchro monsters effect >.> Why Vayu so good in turbo will confuse me unless its just synchro beatstick with an assult mode to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Vayu needs to get gone. Its too easy to abuse. Say you have Shura on the field. Summon Elphin the Raven. Destroy your opponent's monster with Shura, summon Vayu. Since Vayu's effect was negated by Shura, in main phase 2 Synchro Summon Elphin and Vayu for Armor Master, then remove Elphin and Vayu from the graveyard to special summon another one. EDIT: BTW, Can't you just bypass the part of Vayu's effect that negates the effect of the monster by using Book of Eclipse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 I feel Vayu another target of limit just like Gale :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSleep Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wat r u all talking about? blackwing vayu only has 800 atk so its weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 its fine at 3 its just a very good card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wat r u all talking about? blackwing vayu only has 800 atk so its weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wat r u all talking about? blackwing vayu only has 800 atk so its weak Because I know the origin of that old Jim crow pic; I find it offensive and ask that you cease its use. Im just busting your balls. Your all right. Keep on trollin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wat r u all talking about? blackwing vayu only has 800 atk so its weak Because I know the origin of that old Jim crow pic; I find it offensive and ask that you cease its use. Im just busting your balls. Your all right. Keep on trollin. What are you talking about? How is that at all related to Jim Crow, you imbecile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wat r u all talking about? blackwing vayu only has 800 atk so its weak Because I know the origin of that old Jim crow pic; I find it offensive and ask that you cease its use. Im just busting your balls. Your all right. Keep on trollin. What are you talking about? How is that at all related to Jim Crow' date=' you imbecile?[/quote'] Good one Nate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted October 25, 2009 Report Share Posted October 25, 2009 Wat r u all talking about? blackwing vayu only has 800 atk so its weak Because I know the origin of that old Jim crow pic; I find it offensive and ask that you cease its use. Im just busting your balls. Your all right. Keep on trollin. What are you talking about? How is that at all related to Jim Crow' date=' you imbecile?[/quote'] Good one Nate. DERP DERP I CAN USE WHITE TEXT TOO! PLAYER GOTTA PLAY THE PLAYER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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