Reborn Arc's Guide to Realistic Card Section

[Dark Mousy]

Disclaimer: If this should be moved, please move.

 

1) Do not make any long effects. Any effect that makes the card maker go to the smallest text will not be commented with much unless your rater is extremely patient.

 

2) Respect ragnarok1945. He will point out anything obvious mistakes you've made. Despite the fact that he likes drowning your threads.

 

3) Build a reputation. Quality > Quantity. You want to have a reputation of being a good card maker right from the start. I know it hurts not to put a card you just made on to the forum. Only put your best cards.

 

4) Try to be as professional as possible. OCG Matters, no matter what Icy says. People need some standard of understanding your effects. OCG shows that you've put work into your card. It doesn't have to be perfect, but you must meet some standard.

 

5) Don't be afraid in doing something new. Elite members are always notorious for discouraging this. They will point out "wording" errors in a concept that has never been introduced to the game before. OCG means Official Card Grammar! There is no OFFICIAL card to follow!

 

6) From point 5, Elite Members are pretty much idiots. (Yes I'm an idiot) However, they aren't idiots if they agree with each other! If an Elite member tells you something, and many more agree with him / her, then you've got something that you have to fix! Never be discouraged!

 

7) Talk a lot. Try to speak with good grammar. I'm even blind in an eye, can't type properly, and try to do my best to have good grammar. People will respect you more if you have good grammar!

 

8 ) Improve. This is kind of like point 3. Don't post cards unless you're positive you've improved. The Elite has stopped showing around here mainly because this place was flooded with bad card maker spamming bad cards. This will build your reputation.

 

9) Make Sets. As far as reputation goes, Sets, are easier to remember than specific cards. Most of the elite made their name through sets. For example, Zeaux (probably the uncontested best card maker of this site) made his name through the Koair set. If you ask ragnarok1945 about me, you will hear about the Clear or the Alkaloid Set, although I made some good singles.

 

10) Go to contests. Contests are excellent in getting critique on your cards. When they vote, they need to give some sort of explanation on your cards, albeit some are quite vague.

 

11) GFX matters. People aren't going to look and comment on your card if it's just plain on the outside. GFX distinguishes you from newbies. I can't tell you how many card contests I've lost because my opponent abused GFX.

 

12) Look at others. I hired new people, with some exceptional card making qualities to judge in my contests which is almost undisputedly the most prestigious known to YCM. Many of these you need an invitation to enter (or you can bribe me, but that's beside the point). But it's an opportunity to see how the elite makes cards.

 

13) Have fun. When I used to make cards, I kinda thought it was some kind of job. Like an artist, making works for critics. But it doesn't work that way. This is supposed to be a fun forum, not a corporation.

[Twenty-five Zero Oh-oh]

OCG actually means Official card grammar. Other than that this is a nice guide.

[.Leo]

Thank You. You have helped show some members here some of the important information. Thanks a bunch :D.

[.Requiem]

Besides the part about Ragnarok, seems like a lot of the other cards, but targeted toward the RC section. It can help some new members.

[CrabHelmet]

You know how the Evil Overlord List advises evil overlords to have an average five-year-old child on their council of advisers to point out any blatantly obvious flaws in your cunning plans to take over the world? Ragnarok is sort of like that, except younger and less useful.

 

Also, as long as a card's effect is clearly understandable, nit-picky OCG really isn't terribly important. Far more important is creativity and balance, but I don't see any mention of those in this list.

[Phantom Roxas]

You know how the Evil Overlord List advises evil overlords to have an average five-year-old child on their council of advisers to point out any blatantly obvious flaws in your cunning plans to take over the world? Ragnarok is sort of like that' date=' except younger and less useful.

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I repped you, even if reps are pointless. From what I've seen, Ragnarok just says what's wrong, only he doesn't really put much effort into elaborating to the point that a person knows exactly what they need to fix. OCG is either the first or last thing that should be fixed.

[Dark Mousy]

I'm not sure about ragnarok1945. Crab Helmet, how do you propose that I teach people how to be *creative*? Balancing... I thought about it but I didn't want to put it here. Maybe you can create your own version and sticky it.

[Chaos Flame]

This would definintly help some of the noobs coming here and posting near spammy cards.

[Shadow Zero]

yes, yes it would. this is going to help a lot of people, myself included. this is going to be one of the threads that i refer to often when i create my cards in the future.

and i knew it! you are that guy! :mrgreen: i remember when i was welcoming you to the newb defense league when you first started out. so tell me, how have things been going for you? good, i hope.

note: this conversation should be continued over pm for the sake of this most awesome help guide not getting spammed. XD

[Aximil]

It's a shame most newbs won't read this. But it is a good guide. And yeah, I kept losing contests because I don't know how to do all that fancy stuffs on GIMP and Photoshop and everything else.

[Shadow Zero]

well, now that you mention it, i guess i am going to have to learn how to GFX. i don't have a choice if i wish to become the best card maker possible.

[JG.]

2.) is the biggest piece of bullshit I've ever heard.

 

5.) and 6.) you are saying like it's all members. Please do us all a favour and STFU. I myself do not being called an idiot.

 

9.) is also 100% bullshit, especially the part about Zeaux. I trashed him twice in contests, idiot.

 

And in 11.), I never add GFX to my cards, and I still get good ratings, because it's the card that matters, not the looks.

 

And finally, 12.) I've never heard of your contest, so I doubt it's that prestigious.

 

So now, STFU please.

[Sander]

2) Respect ragnarok1945. He will point out anything obvious mistakes you've made. Despite the fact that he likes drowning your threads.

 

This has to be the WORST suggestion in this guide. Sure' date=' you can listen to his posts, but you won't get anything out from his posts. All he says is "overpowered", "card needs balancing", "OCG is off" etc. etc.

 

4) Try to be as professional as possible. OCG Matters, no matter what Icy says. People need some standard of understanding your effects. OCG shows that you've put work into your card. It doesn't have to be perfect, but you must meet some standard.

 

As Crab Helmet says, OCG doesn't matter. As long as the effect is understandable, there's no need to jabroni about it.

 

5) Don't be afraid in doing something new. Elite members are always notorious for discouraging this. They will point out "wording" errors in a concept that has never been introduced to the game before. OCG means Official Card Grammar! There is no OFFICIAL card to follow!

 

6) From point 5' date=' Elite Members are pretty much idiots. (Yes I'm an idiot) However, they aren't idiots if they agree with each other! If an Elite member tells you something, and many more agree with him / her, then you've got something that you have to fix! Never be discouraged![/quote']

 

OCG doesn't mean Official Card Grammar. It actually mean Official Card Game. Official Card Grammar is only used by people who like to jabroni about every word that is a little bit off in the effect(s).

 

And, there are boundaries to trying something new. As long as the card remains in the boundaries of the YuGiOh gameplay, it's fine by me, but if it's some ridiculous effect, I'll sure trash it.

 

 

9) Make Sets. As far as reputation goes' date=' Sets, are easier to remember than specific cards. Most of the elite made their name through sets. For example, Zeaux (probably the uncontested best card maker of this site) made his name through the Koair set. If you ask ragnarok1945 about me, you will hear about the Clear or the Alkaloid Set, although I made some good singles.[/quote']

 

Making sets is actually harder than making single cards. As far it goes, sets are useless and will be forgotten in a week or two.

 

And I laughed out loud when you said that Zeaus is the "uncontested best card maker of this site". Where's your proof? As far it matter, I'm, by far, a better card maker than Zeaux will ever be.

 

 

11) GFX matters. People aren't going to look and comment on your card if it's just plain on the outside. GFX distinguishes you from newbies. I can't tell you how many card contests I've lost because my opponent abused GFX.

 

But what if you don't know HOW to GFX? Maybe you're not good at making custom pictures like some of the GFXer's do? What then? Oh, using the other custom pictures on this site? No, then the pictures would be "overused".

 

So, if I get it right, what you're saying is that, if you don't know how to GFX, you will not be noticed? Yeah, sure.

 

 

All in all, this so called "guide", is utter bullshit.

[JG.]

*Insert rest of Xander's post here*

 

All in all' date=' this so called "guide", is utter bullshit.

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At least someone agrees with me.

[Shadow Zero]

2 things. one, both of you need to show more respect and stop the cussing. two, you can completely reject something someone says and call them on it, but the cussing and the flaming...no, just no. my opinion is stated in the pic below. please follow its advice so as to avoid incurring further trouble.

[JG.]

I fell of my chair laughing at you. I'm willing to say that both of us are less nooby than you. And also better cardmakers. I haven't seen your cards, if you even make them. If you don't, GTFO. If you do, I'd beat you any day.

[Shadow Zero]

1: i do make cards.

2: there is no clear guarantee of that unless you know enough people to rig a contest in your favor.

3: while i respect everyones right to their own opinion, i do no respect the way that you and xander decided you needed to express yours.

[JG.]

1: i do make cards.

2: there is no clear guarantee of that unless you know enough people to rig a contest in your favor.

3: while i respect everyones right to their own opinion' date=' i do no respect the way that you and xander decided you needed to express yours.

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1.) Then challenge me, if you dare.

2.) Did I say I'd cheat? I do not like being called a cheater either.

3.) Then deal with it. You could ignore us, it's your own choice that you read our posts. And anyways, we have our opinion, you have yours. Deal with it, dickhead.

[Shadow Zero]

1: i do make cards.

2: there is no clear guarantee of that unless you know enough people to rig a contest in your favor.

3: while i respect everyones right to their own opinion' date=' i do no respect the way that you and xander decided you needed to express yours.

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1.) Then challenge me, if you dare.

2.) Did I say I'd cheat? I do not like being called a cheater either.

3.) Then deal with it. You could ignore us, it's your own choice that you read our posts. And anyways, we have our opinion, you have yours. Deal with it, dickhead.

1.) I've no need to prove myself to some disrespectful lout.

2.) I didn't call you a cheater, I said that there is no sure way to know of the outcome unless you know enough people to rig it.

3.) Language like that is a good way to get reported...again. I try to be nice to people, so I'll let this one slide. In the future, please be more respectful.

4.) Lack of sleep is no excuse, if you were even thinking of using that as a reason.

[JG.]

1: i do make cards.

2: there is no clear guarantee of that unless you know enough people to rig a contest in your favor.

3: while i respect everyones right to their own opinion' date=' i do no respect the way that you and xander decided you needed to express yours.

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1.) Then challenge me, if you dare.

2.) Did I say I'd cheat? I do not like being called a cheater either.

3.) Then deal with it. You could ignore us, it's your own choice that you read our posts. And anyways, we have our opinion, you have yours. Deal with it, dickhead.

1.) I've no need to prove myself to some disrespectful lout.

2.) I didn't call you a cheater, I said that there is no sure way to know of the outcome unless you know enough people to rig it.

3.) Language like that is a good way to get reported...again. I try to be nice to people, so I'll let this one slide. In the future, please be more respectful.

4.) Lack of sleep is no excuse, if you were even thinking of using that as a reason.

 

1.) Then do so. I don't care.

2.) I do know enough people to rig it if I wanted to, but I respect my opponent, so I won't.

3.) I've been banned enough times to not care anymore, so do so if you want.

4.) Where the f*ck did that come into the arguement!?

[Dark Mousy]

Was I being a jabroni about OCG?

 

Yes? No?

 

Stop assuming things that I take for granted.

 

For example:

 

2) Respect does not mean it's a good thing. He fills a role which is needed for newer card-makers. I have little, or no respect for him either.

 

I'm just saying people will come to rate your cards more and try to help you balance it out if you do.

 

I don't think so. It is impossible to teach anyone how to BE CREATIVE and how to BALANCE CARDS. They will come with time. I take the time to think about what I write. It's just like that AoC idea.

 

Sure I make mistakes, this thread was pretty much dead until Chaos Zero revived it. I agree, the point about Zeaux was absolute bullshit, among many others, which resulted in this thread's death.

 

Of course, it doesn't help to insert bullshit in every other sentence. You should know why, it doesn't make you sound smarter.

 

1) This was a useless guide until Chaos Zero bumped it.

2) I don't know why the link was still in my sig, I should have deleted it, but I don't see anyone's sigs.

3) I took a bit of time to write this, please give me SOME respect.

4) These were simply my opinions. You may have different ones, I respect that.

5) A mod can lock this now.

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Best Moderator: Rinne/Shadius (equal really)' date=' just give it to whoever has the most votes

Best Super Moderator: Azrael

 

King/Queen of Realistic Cards: Jazin Kay

King/Queen of Any Other Cards: Dark Heart

King/Queen of Written Cards: -Griffin

King/Queen of Card Contests: Arc... I think

 

Best Debator: Dark Phoenix (You know when and how, not just do)

Most Active Member: Um... Not gonna answer...

Friendliest Member (also covers most helpful): Deustodo

Friendship Award: -Griffin

 

Top Contributor (Who has done the most for the site in the past months?): Dark Heart

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I hasten, but I might as well. ~JG~ be more humble.