Sander Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 [align=center] 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monstersWhen this card is Summoned, select 1 Level 4 Gemini Monster from your Graveyard and Special Summon it. Once during either player's turn, when your opponent activates a Trap Card, you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster from your Graveyard, it gains 500 ATK and DEF. Image Credit goes to Alcander Rate/hate/whatever turns you on.[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Hate Snatch Steal Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 This could be interesting in a vanilla (normal monster) deck 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DOOM Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 You love synchros right?:D:D Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster in Attack or Defense Position (not needed). A monster Special Summoned by this card's effect gains 500 ATK and DEF. from where can i special summon the monster then? it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck. 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Style Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 You love synchros right?:D:D Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster in Attack or Defense Position (not needed). A monster Special Summoned by this card's effect gains 500 ATK and DEF. from where can i special summon the monster then? it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck. 9/10 Did you read the whole effect? You can special summon a Level 4 or lower monster from your graveyard in Attack or Defense position. You can only special summon if you negate the activation of a Spell or Trap card. 10/10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster in Attack or Defense Position (not needed). A monster Special Summoned by this card's effect gains 500 ATK and DEF. How is it not needed? If I were to allow SSing any monster' date=' I wouldn't use the Normal Monster part. Maybe the ATK/DEF part isn't needed in this card, but the Normal Monster part is. from where can i special summon the monster then?[/Quote] Fixed that problem. Graveyard. it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck.9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweller of Parables Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I like the pic for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Style Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I like the pic for the most part. I agree with Dweller. Epic pic. Where did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ryder Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster in Attack or Defense Position (not needed). A monster Special Summoned by this card's effect gains 500 ATK and DEF.No. It is needed. It's the effect. Also' date=' "Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster in [b']face-up[/b] Attack or Defense Position". I just added it =/ The image is awesome as usual, OCG seems solid (after fix). 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 It's overpowered. Even if the second effect had the same Trigger activation requirements as Dark Horus, which only works when a Spell is activated during your opponent's turn and didn't negate, it'd still be overpowered as it's easier to get out than Dark Horus for the most part and also gives you a free Special Summon by default with its first effect. This is a +2 each time your opponent happens to use a Spell or Trap in addition to a free Normal Monster when its Summoned to totally make up for advantage lost in summoning it. This as it is offers far too harsh a punishment for an essential part of the game. If this card's second effect were to not activate when Spells were activated and only when Traps were, which are used less often than Spells and tend to be a little more sensible for a Lance Strider to punish, this'd be more balanced. It'd also have nice counterpart synergy with Dark Horus, which is rather opposite to this in nature, being a DARK Dragon. Also, for the first effect, range restriction would be required. Perhaps if you just limited it to Level 4 Gemini Monsters it'd be more reasonable. And made it so that you can't get two monsters by Special Summoning it from the Graveyard, but instead made it only activate on Synchro Summon. So here's what I'm thinking for a revised effect, Official Card Grammar included: 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monstersWhen this card is Summoned, select 1 Level 4 Gemini Monster from your Graveyard and Special Summon it. Once during either player's turn, when your opponent activates a Trap Card, you can Special Summon 1 Level 4 or lower Normal Monster from your Graveyard, it gains 500 ATK and DEF. That should be a step in the right direction. Afterwards, all you're lacking is a Set ID, which is a necessity for all Realistic Cards as all "real" cards have them, so add one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 The first effect is useless, as Level 5 Normal Monsters are the absolute worst type of monsters you can get, minus Cyber Tech Alligator. Except for that, good card, a little OPed but it's a Synchro for nothing's sake! 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 The first effect is useless' date=' as Level 5 Normal Monsters are the absolute worst type of monsters you can get, minus Cyber Tech Alligator.[/quote'] You're so funn...wait, what's that? You're serious? *facedesk* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DOOM Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 you don't need to say "in face-up attack or defense position" because you can special summon a monster in face-up attack and defense position anyway. you only have to write "in face-down defense position" in the lore if you want to have an effect that special summons a monster in face-down defense position. the "it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck." sentence ought go to I hate Snatch steal >_< and i know i made a mistake. i only wanted to say that "in attack or defense position" is not needed @mindscatter: it says Level 5 or lower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ryder Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 you don't need to say "in face-up attack or defense position" because you can special summon a monster in face-up attack and defense position anyway. you only have to write "in face-down defense position" in the lore if you want to have an effect that special summons a monster in face-down defense position. the "it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck." sentence ought go to I hate Snatch steal >_< and i know i made a mistake. i only wanted to say that "in attack or defense position" is not neededStill "face-up" would make it easier to understand and I believe it is the correct OCG if you were gonna Special Summon it in a Position such as Attack or Defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 you don't need to say "in face-up attack or defense position" because you can special summon a monster in face-up attack and defense position anyway. you only have to write "in face-down defense position" in the lore if you want to have an effect that special summons a monster in face-down defense position. the "it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck." sentence ought go to I hate Snatch steal >_< and i know i made a mistake. i only wanted to say that "in attack or defense position" is not neededStill "face-up" would make it easier to understand and I believe it is the correct OCG if you were gonna Special Summon it in a Position such as Attack or Defense. Actually, specifying at all when it can be Special Summoned in either face-up position is incorrect OCG, you just use "Special Summon". Basically, HP's right and you aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DOOM Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Blackwing_-_Vayu_the_Emblem_of_Honorhttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Faultrollhttp://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/XX-Saber_Gardestrike in these card's lore there is no position mentioned. i think the OCG of these cards is right. But if you want to restrict a Special Summon in only 1 position, than you have to state it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Ryder Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 you don't need to say "in face-up attack or defense position" because you can special summon a monster in face-up attack and defense position anyway. you only have to write "in face-down defense position" in the lore if you want to have an effect that special summons a monster in face-down defense position. the "it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck." sentence ought go to I hate Snatch steal >_< and i know i made a mistake. i only wanted to say that "in attack or defense position" is not neededStill "face-up" would make it easier to understand and I believe it is the correct OCG if you were gonna Special Summon it in a Position such as Attack or Defense. Actually' date=' specifying at all when it can be Special Summoned in either face-up position is incorrect OCG, you just use "Special Summon". Basically, HP's right and you aren't.[/quote']I'm still revising back on OCG. So don't blame me too much. Also, I was wrong as well, face-up position would be for one position. Like "Special Summon in face-up Attack Position". Memory's are coming back...unless OCG has periodically changed -_- @HP: None of it is mentioned because it's not Special Summoning in either position. Meaning you can choose. You're right on stating that, that's what I meant :DYou guys just helped me remember more OCG :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 you don't need to say "in face-up attack or defense position" because you can special summon a monster in face-up attack and defense position anyway. you only have to write "in face-down defense position" in the lore if you want to have an effect that special summons a monster in face-down defense position. the "it's obviously that you made this is for a Gemini or Normal Monster deck." sentence ought go to I hate Snatch steal >_< and i know i made a mistake. i only wanted to say that "in attack or defense position" is not needed @mindscatter: it says Level 5 or lower Or lower???? OR LOWER????????? (me smells a Genex Controller mass swarm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted December 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Kay, edited the card. Changed it into Polaris's suggested effect, since I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindscatter Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 Far better now 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Leo Posted December 19, 2009 Report Share Posted December 19, 2009 I would run this in 3 in a Gemini Deck. Interesting effect provides good use for a Gemini Deck. It isn't OPed and cannot be abused so if this card was TCG I couldn't see it being banned. ~9/10~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 20, 2009 Report Share Posted December 20, 2009 both card's first effects you should have said select a lv4 OR LOWER Gemini monster that should be made it more OPed, the way a synchro should be 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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