New concept (Calamity Fusion monsters)+1 rep for good advices and opinions

[Jace Beleren]

hello there everyone

i've decided to make another new concept as i mentioned above

those are the Dark fusion monsters

 

I'd like to hear opinions and ideas from you all ^^

 

1-The color of a Dark ritual monster card is dark pink or Purple, the level balls are dark synchro style. (need to hear your opinions about the color or the card)

 

2- They are monsters that can only be Dark Fusion summoned by sending a certain type monster (fiend or warrior.etc) with negative level and 1 positive level monster with a same type from your Graveyard

 

3- there effect should be powerful since they are Dark Fusion monsters

 

4- When a Dark fusion monster is sent to the graveyard, you must special summon the fusion metrials of the monster that used for a Dark fusion summon in face-up atk position, there effect is negated and their atk and def becomes 0.

 

i will post examples later tonight

 

 

now as I said above,

your opinions, ideas are appreciated ^^

[Jace Beleren]

hello there everyone

i've decided to make another new concept as i mentioned above

those are the Dark fusion monsters

 

I'd like to hear opinions and ideas from you all ^^

 

1-The color of a Dark ritual monster card is dark pink or Purple, the level balls are dark synchro style. (need to hear your opinions about the color or the card)

 

2- They are monsters that can only be Dark Fusion summoned by sending a certain type monster (fiend or warrior.etc) with negative level and 1 positive level monster with a same type from your Graveyard

 

3- there effect should be powerful since they are Dark Fusion monsters

 

4- When a Dark fusion monster is sent to the graveyard, you must special summon the fusion metrials of the monster that used for a Dark fusion summon in face-up atk position, there effect is negated and their atk and def becomes 0.

 

i will post examples later tonight

 

 

now as I said above,

your opinions, ideas are appreciated ^^

[Jace Beleren]

hello there everyone

i've decided to make another new concept as i mentioned above

those are the Dark fusion monsters

 

I'd like to hear opinions and ideas from you all ^^

 

1-The color of a Dark ritual monster card is dark pink or Purple, the level balls are dark synchro style. (need to hear your opinions about the color or the card)

 

2- They are monsters that can only be Dark Fusion summoned by sending a certain type monster (fiend or warrior.etc) with negative level and 1 positive level monster with a same type from your Graveyard

 

3- there effect should be powerful since they are Dark Fusion monsters

 

4- When a Dark fusion monster is sent to the graveyard, you must special summon the fusion metrials of the monster that used for a Dark fusion summon in face-up atk position, there effect is negated and their atk and def becomes 0.

 

i will post examples later tonight

 

 

now as I said above,

your opinions, ideas are appreciated ^^

[Twin Seed]

Sorry, but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

 

2-Dark Synchros.

 

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

[Twin Seed]

Sorry, but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

 

2-Dark Synchros.

 

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

[Twin Seed]

Sorry, but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

 

2-Dark Synchros.

 

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

[Jace Beleren]

Sorry' date=' but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

[b'] hmmm..... red is okay, but i'll keep the level stars as they are for now[/b]

2-Dark Synchros.

the only thing thats different that they need the same type monsters to dark Fusion summon a Dark fusion monster

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

the effect dark fusion monster will not apply in that case

 

thanx for your comments anyways

[Jace Beleren]

Sorry' date=' but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

[b'] hmmm..... red is okay, but i'll keep the level stars as they are for now[/b]

2-Dark Synchros.

the only thing thats different that they need the same type monsters to dark Fusion summon a Dark fusion monster

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

the effect dark fusion monster will not apply in that case

 

thanx for your comments anyways

[Jace Beleren]

Sorry' date=' but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

[b'] hmmm..... red is okay, but i'll keep the level stars as they are for now[/b]

2-Dark Synchros.

the only thing thats different that they need the same type monsters to dark Fusion summon a Dark fusion monster

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

the effect dark fusion monster will not apply in that case

 

thanx for your comments anyways

[Twin Seed]

Sorry' date=' but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

[b'] hmmm..... red is okay, but i'll keep the level stars as they are for now[/b]

Mmmk.

2-Dark Synchros.

the only thing thats different that they need the same type monsters to dark Fusion summon a Dark fusion monster

I see what you're saying now.

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

the effect dark fusion monster will not apply in that case

Alright then.

[Twin Seed]

Sorry' date=' but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

[b'] hmmm..... red is okay, but i'll keep the level stars as they are for now[/b]

Mmmk.

2-Dark Synchros.

the only thing thats different that they need the same type monsters to dark Fusion summon a Dark fusion monster

I see what you're saying now.

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

the effect dark fusion monster will not apply in that case

Alright then.

[Twin Seed]

Sorry' date=' but you already know that this is what Dark Synchros are for. But, I'll give you my opinion anyway.

 

1-The card's color should be some sort of red.

The stars should be greenish...?

[b'] hmmm..... red is okay, but i'll keep the level stars as they are for now[/b]

Mmmk.

2-Dark Synchros.

the only thing thats different that they need the same type monsters to dark Fusion summon a Dark fusion monster

I see what you're saying now.

3-Synchros/Dark Synchros.

 

4-This is really the only thing there that's not related to Synchros, but what if you only have 1 monster card zone left after the Dark Fusion's destroyed?

the effect dark fusion monster will not apply in that case

Alright then.

[MarshyK-XS]

got to be holo if it is important, maybe support cards aswell?

[MarshyK-XS]

got to be holo if it is important, maybe support cards aswell?

[MarshyK-XS]

got to be holo if it is important, maybe support cards aswell?

[Jace Beleren]

got to be holo if it is important' date=' maybe support cards aswell?

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i will make some support cards as well

anyways thanx for your comment

[Jace Beleren]

got to be holo if it is important' date=' maybe support cards aswell?

[/quote']

 

i will make some support cards as well

anyways thanx for your comment

[Jace Beleren]

got to be holo if it is important' date=' maybe support cards aswell?

[/quote']

 

i will make some support cards as well

anyways thanx for your comment

[Guest Ixigo]

Evil Heroes say hi.

 

The idea is pretty unimaginative IMO, but I'll give it a try.

 

1) I agree with Red for the color. It would make Osiris-kun feel less lonely.

 

2) I like the part that you need monster Types to do the Fusion than specific monsters, but I think it'd make the Fusions way too playable to the point of broken. You may think it balances it out because of how Synchros work and the fact that a negative level monster is required but... it doesn't.

 

3) Not really. In fact, points 2) and 4) already make them sufficiently more powerful than Fusion monsters. Add enough support and they become broken.

 

4) No. The point of Fusion is investing Hand power to gain Field Control. It's pretty much a high-risk - high-reward strategy. By allowing you to Special Summon the Fusion materials back, even if you disable stats and effects, you greatly mitigate that risk while maintaining the profits.

 

I'm not going to lie - I don't like the idea. But if you are going to make them, I strongly suggest you give those things I mentioned a thought.

[Guest Ixigo]

Evil Heroes say hi.

 

The idea is pretty unimaginative IMO, but I'll give it a try.

 

1) I agree with Red for the color. It would make Osiris-kun feel less lonely.

 

2) I like the part that you need monster Types to do the Fusion than specific monsters, but I think it'd make the Fusions way too playable to the point of broken. You may think it balances it out because of how Synchros work and the fact that a negative level monster is required but... it doesn't.

 

3) Not really. In fact, points 2) and 4) already make them sufficiently more powerful than Fusion monsters. Add enough support and they become broken.

 

4) No. The point of Fusion is investing Hand power to gain Field Control. It's pretty much a high-risk - high-reward strategy. By allowing you to Special Summon the Fusion materials back, even if you disable stats and effects, you greatly mitigate that risk while maintaining the profits.

 

I'm not going to lie - I don't like the idea. But if you are going to make them, I strongly suggest you give those things I mentioned a thought.

[Guest Ixigo]

Evil Heroes say hi.

 

The idea is pretty unimaginative IMO, but I'll give it a try.

 

1) I agree with Red for the color. It would make Osiris-kun feel less lonely.

 

2) I like the part that you need monster Types to do the Fusion than specific monsters, but I think it'd make the Fusions way too playable to the point of broken. You may think it balances it out because of how Synchros work and the fact that a negative level monster is required but... it doesn't.

 

3) Not really. In fact, points 2) and 4) already make them sufficiently more powerful than Fusion monsters. Add enough support and they become broken.

 

4) No. The point of Fusion is investing Hand power to gain Field Control. It's pretty much a high-risk - high-reward strategy. By allowing you to Special Summon the Fusion materials back, even if you disable stats and effects, you greatly mitigate that risk while maintaining the profits.

 

I'm not going to lie - I don't like the idea. But if you are going to make them, I strongly suggest you give those things I mentioned a thought.

[Sleepy]

hello there everyone

i've decided to make another new concept as i mentioned above

those are the Dark fusion monsters

 

I'd like to hear opinions and ideas from you all ^^

 

1-The color of a Dark Ritual monster card is dark pink or Purple' date=' the level balls are dark synchro style. (need to hear your opinions about the color or the card)

Fixed ;)

Pink is too bright for "dark" fusions. I say purple is ok as long as itsdifferent from the other purple fusions already have. The red that is being suggested is also a good idea but just don't make it bright red. As close of a darkinsh crimson as you can get :)

 

2- They are monsters that can only be Dark Fusion summoned by sending a certain type monster (fiend or warrior.etc) with negative level and 1 positive level monster with a same type from your Graveyard.

I would say keep it with the Fusion rules with specific names, you can always do Fusions like Five Headed Dragon, whose Fusion Materials are any monsters from a sertain Type but its specified in the card. That way the mechanic can be balanced a little more in the future by just giving that condition of "types" instead of "names" to the ones that won't hurt too much by doing so.

 

3- there effect should be powerful since they are Dark Fusion monsters

I agree on this xD

Just be careful not to make it broken..

 

4- When a Dark fusion monster is sent to the graveyard, you must special summon the fusion metrials of the monster that used for a Dark fusion summon in face-up atk position, there effect is negated and their atk and def becomes 0.

That can be something triky, you are not mentioning the use of a mediator card for the Fusion Summon, so technically, you can and very much likely will use them to Dark Fusion Summon another copy of the same monster for free, despite their effects or stats, they still have their Types. I'm not saying depending on a single card or not is bad, I'll let that up to you and I personally enjoy contact fusions more than polymerization fusions xD

 

I suggest just getting 1 of them back instead of all. Also, when one of the materials is a Tuner, you can have a pretty powerful Deck that maybe shouldn't be. Another inconvenient that goes back to the "types" or "names" topic.

 

i will post examples later tonight

 

 

now as I said above,

your opinions, ideas are appreciated ^^

 

I like the overall idea. Looks interesting and actually I would like to see a Dark Counterpart for all those game mechanics. More fun to work with. Synchros, Rituals, Fusions. I can't imagine how Dark Spells or Dark Traps would be like though xD

[Sleepy]

hello there everyone

i've decided to make another new concept as i mentioned above

those are the Dark fusion monsters

 

I'd like to hear opinions and ideas from you all ^^

 

1-The color of a Dark Ritual monster card is dark pink or Purple' date=' the level balls are dark synchro style. (need to hear your opinions about the color or the card)

Fixed ;)

Pink is too bright for "dark" fusions. I say purple is ok as long as itsdifferent from the other purple fusions already have. The red that is being suggested is also a good idea but just don't make it bright red. As close of a darkinsh crimson as you can get :)

 

2- They are monsters that can only be Dark Fusion summoned by sending a certain type monster (fiend or warrior.etc) with negative level and 1 positive level monster with a same type from your Graveyard.

I would say keep it with the Fusion rules with specific names, you can always do Fusions like Five Headed Dragon, whose Fusion Materials are any monsters from a sertain Type but its specified in the card. That way the mechanic can be balanced a little more in the future by just giving that condition of "types" instead of "names" to the ones that won't hurt too much by doing so.

 

3- there effect should be powerful since they are Dark Fusion monsters

I agree on this xD

Just be careful not to make it broken..

 

4- When a Dark fusion monster is sent to the graveyard, you must special summon the fusion metrials of the monster that used for a Dark fusion summon in face-up atk position, there effect is negated and their atk and def becomes 0.

That can be something triky, you are not mentioning the use of a mediator card for the Fusion Summon, so technically, you can and very much likely will use them to Dark Fusion Summon another copy of the same monster for free, despite their effects or stats, they still have their Types. I'm not saying depending on a single card or not is bad, I'll let that up to you and I personally enjoy contact fusions more than polymerization fusions xD

 

I suggest just getting 1 of them back instead of all. Also, when one of the materials is a Tuner, you can have a pretty powerful Deck that maybe shouldn't be. Another inconvenient that goes back to the "types" or "names" topic.

 

i will post examples later tonight

 

 

now as I said above,

your opinions, ideas are appreciated ^^

 

I like the overall idea. Looks interesting and actually I would like to see a Dark Counterpart for all those game mechanics. More fun to work with. Synchros, Rituals, Fusions. I can't imagine how Dark Spells or Dark Traps would be like though xD

[Sleepy]

hello there everyone

i've decided to make another new concept as i mentioned above

those are the Dark fusion monsters

 

I'd like to hear opinions and ideas from you all ^^

 

1-The color of a Dark Ritual monster card is dark pink or Purple' date=' the level balls are dark synchro style. (need to hear your opinions about the color or the card)

Fixed ;)

Pink is too bright for "dark" fusions. I say purple is ok as long as itsdifferent from the other purple fusions already have. The red that is being suggested is also a good idea but just don't make it bright red. As close of a darkinsh crimson as you can get :)

 

2- They are monsters that can only be Dark Fusion summoned by sending a certain type monster (fiend or warrior.etc) with negative level and 1 positive level monster with a same type from your Graveyard.

I would say keep it with the Fusion rules with specific names, you can always do Fusions like Five Headed Dragon, whose Fusion Materials are any monsters from a sertain Type but its specified in the card. That way the mechanic can be balanced a little more in the future by just giving that condition of "types" instead of "names" to the ones that won't hurt too much by doing so.

 

3- there effect should be powerful since they are Dark Fusion monsters

I agree on this xD

Just be careful not to make it broken..

 

4- When a Dark fusion monster is sent to the graveyard, you must special summon the fusion metrials of the monster that used for a Dark fusion summon in face-up atk position, there effect is negated and their atk and def becomes 0.

That can be something triky, you are not mentioning the use of a mediator card for the Fusion Summon, so technically, you can and very much likely will use them to Dark Fusion Summon another copy of the same monster for free, despite their effects or stats, they still have their Types. I'm not saying depending on a single card or not is bad, I'll let that up to you and I personally enjoy contact fusions more than polymerization fusions xD

 

I suggest just getting 1 of them back instead of all. Also, when one of the materials is a Tuner, you can have a pretty powerful Deck that maybe shouldn't be. Another inconvenient that goes back to the "types" or "names" topic.

 

i will post examples later tonight

 

 

now as I said above,

your opinions, ideas are appreciated ^^

 

I like the overall idea. Looks interesting and actually I would like to see a Dark Counterpart for all those game mechanics. More fun to work with. Synchros, Rituals, Fusions. I can't imagine how Dark Spells or Dark Traps would be like though xD

[玄魔の王]

Evil Heroes say hi.

 

The idea is pretty unimaginative IMO' date=' but I'll give it a try.

[b']It is, sadly enough. Not to mention it's difficult to make the negative theme work.[/b]

 

1) I agree with Red for the color. It would make Osiris-kun feel less lonely.

 

Red is on the opposite end of the colour spectrum from Purple, but to make it dark it'd have to be a dark red, like blood-red or crimson.

 

2) I like the part that you need monster Types to do the Fusion than specific monsters, but I think it'd make the Fusions way too playable to the point of broken. You may think it balances it out because of how Synchros work and the fact that a negative level monster is required but... it doesn't.

 

Perhaps make every monster have some sort of "Dark Material: listed as a Fusion-material, then the type of card needed.

 

3) Not really. In fact, points 2) and 4) already make them sufficiently more powerful than Fusion monsters. Add enough support and they become broken.

 

Perhaps, but they're still slower than Synchros. Unless they're by Contact Fusion; then Synchros are F**KED.

 

4) No. The point of Fusion is investing Hand power to gain Field Control. It's pretty much a high-risk - high-reward strategy. By allowing you to Special Summon the Fusion materials back, even if you disable stats and effects, you greatly mitigate that risk while maintaining the profits.

 

Perhaps returned to the hand or Deck?

 

I'm not going to lie - I don't like the idea. But if you are going to make them, I strongly suggest you give those things I mentioned a thought.

 

I'm okay with it, but they'd better be damn good.

 

You have two choices for this:

 

1) Make them Contact Fusions

2) Give them a specific card and a Specific subtype of card for material.

 

I think this could work, but tread carefully.