*gulp* How's my deck (with no real theme)?

[Expelsword]

Hi guys, I'm new, and sometimes I play this game with my friends, I may go to a tournament eventually though, so I came here for input

 

My Deck is actually 60 cards, but in order to comply with forum rules I've shuffled them and will post the first 50 of them that appear, I hope it isn't too bad (also, I probably broke SOME kind of rule here, so I appologize in advance)

 

MONSTERS (24 cards)

Barrel Dragon

Brain Jacker

Buster Blader

Chaos Necromancer

Cthonian Emperor Dragon

D.D. Assailant

Dark Magician

Des Feral Imp

Despair From The Dark

Giga Gagagigo

Golem Sentry

Hieracosphinx

Kinetic Soldier

Levia-Dragon - Daedalus

Neo Aqua Madoor {x2}

Nobleman-Eater Bug

Patrician Of Darkness

Penguin Soldier

Sangan

Slate Warrior

Sorcerer Of Dark Magic {Yeah, I know it's not really a good choice}

Thestalos The Firestorm Monarch

Total Defense Shogun

 

MAGIC{Spell} (16 cards)

A Legendary Ocean

Big Bang Shot

Book Of Moon

Creature Swap

Ekibyo Drakmord

Heavy Storm

Messenger Of Peace

Monster Reincarnation

Mystical Space Typhoon

Nobleman Of Crossout

Riryoku

Soul Exchange

Swords Of Revealing Light

The Shallow Grave

Twin Swords of Flashing Light - Tryce

United We Stand

 

TRAP (10 cards)

Dust Tornado

Enchanted Javelin

Hidden Book Of Spell

Nutrient Z

Pinapple Blast

Shadow Spell

Trap Hole

Ultimate Offering

Waboku

Windstorm Of Etaqua

 

(I notice I don't have as many trap cards, is that bad...?)

[Toffee.]

Aside from you using the oh-so-pointless Highlander List, and actually knowing the rules enough to cut the deck to 50.....

Barrel Dragon

Chaos Necromancer

Thestalos The Firestorm Monarch

Book Of Moon

Creature Swap

^Your deck actually contains a few favorites of mine^

 

Look, you need to cut your deck to around 40(45, but thats really pushing it) and actually give it a theme. Giving your deck a theme will actually gratly improve it, and allow it to be more consistant.

No, Type-Specific/Attribute-Specifc isnt a theme.

[jabber2033]

You really need a theme. As it is, this deck is just too random to help fix. Sorry, but that's the truth. Another thing: Cut to 40. Having anything more than 45 cards prevents you from drawing the right cards when you need them. Only Gadget decks should have more than 40, and that's to prevent drawing multiple copies of the same Gadget.

 

My suggestion: Use the link, go through the different deck types, and pick one you like. One of us can probably give you a deck list for it. And make sure you go through all the decks, not just A-C.

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Deck_types

 

Edit: And at least you didn't use Magic Cylinder. Unless it's in a burn deck, people on this site really hate that card. Don't ask me why...

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Arm speaks the truth. pick a theme or pick a card that you want to centre the deck around.

makes it easier to decided what to add and remove that way

[Toffee.]

Edit: And at least you didn't use Magic Cylinder. Unless it's in a burn deck' date=' people on this site really hate that card. Don't ask me why...

[/quote']

Its not that we dont hate it, its just.... Well.... its outclassed by ALOT/i] of cards.

Its only really good as a late game finisher, but thats REALLY pushing it.

 

Heck, even Negate Attack is better then it.

[Expelsword]

Hmm, well I'll see about the theme, but as far as cutting cards goes, it's so hard to pick cards to cut... 'cause all of them are good, ya know?

 

Oh, and one more thing, I USED to have a Dark Paladin, the Sorcerer of Dark Magic is kind of a replacement, if I ever find another I'd probably make that my theme (anyone know if they're still made?)

 

(I lied, one more thing)

Why does everyone hate magic cylinder? it looks fairly awesome going by the description...

[Toffee.]

Hmm' date=' well I'll see about the theme, but as far as cutting cards goes, it's so hard to pick cards to cut... 'cause all of them are good, ya know?[/quote']

No, no they arent.

 

Watch this, I will magicly pick out all the un-needed cards:

Brain Jacker

Buster Blader

Cthonian Emperor Dragon

Dark Magician

Des Feral Imp

Despair From The Dark

Giga Gagagigo

Hieracosphinx

Kinetic Soldier

Levia-Dragon - Daedalus

Neo Aqua Madoor {x2}

Nobleman-Eater Bug

Patrician Of Darkness

Slate Warrior

Sorcerer Of Dark Magic

Total Defense Shogun

A Legendary Ocean

Big Bang Shot

Ekibyo Drakmord

Messenger Of Peace

Monster Reincarnation

Nobleman Of Crossout

Riryoku

Swords Of Revealing Light

The Shallow Grave

Twin Swords of Flashing Light - Tryce

United We Stand

Dust Tornado

Enchanted Javelin

Hidden Book Of Spell

Nutrient Z

Pinapple Blast

Shadow Spell

Windstorm Of Etaqua

^Your deck should not run any of these^

 

Why does everyone hate magic cylinder? it looks fairly awesome going by the description...

Read the effect of this limited(to 1) card:

 

And then read the effect of this unlimited card:

[morfowt]

I personally wouldn't say magic cylinder is worse than dimensional prison. They just have different effects, but cost, activation time, and activation duration are more or less the same. so it really depends on what you want to do. do you want to inflict damage, or do you want to remove the attacking monster?

 

although magic cylinder being limited does make it slightly less helpful than dimensional prison, but that's the only reason.

[-Berserker-]

First time I see someone posting a deck in alphabetical order. That and the fact that seems that you run one of each card and the randomness of your deck, anybody would think you are some kind of troll playing a joke to the people of this section; but I don't think that. You need to choose a theme for your deck so we can give you suggestions about what cards to use. Right now we cannot know what are you aiming for with that deck...

[daboss144]

You definitely need to continue to run chainable stalls in a deck like this. I.E. Threatening Roar. And definitely add a Waboku.

[Expelsword]

It's no joke, I really do run only one of every card (with the exception of Neo Aqua Madoor, simply because you can never have enough walls), which actually I guess you could say is my strategy, stalling untill I found a way to deal massive damage

 

(P.S. For a while, this plan was Enchanted Javelin+Inferno Tempest+Return from a Different Dimension+Dark Dust Spirit+4 monsters)

 

OH, and that gives me an idea: Thunder of Ruler, if I can find it among my box of cards

[Toffee.]

I personally wouldn't say magic cylinder is worse than dimensional prison.

How got on his first try' date=' and actually agrees with me.

Thist is probobly a 1st for YCM.

 

so it really depends on what you want to do. do you want to inflict damage, or do you want to remove the attacking monster?

Even if you use Cylinder, they still have that annoying monster on there field.

 

although magic cylinder being limited does make it slightly less helpful

Your joking right?

Cylinder bieng limited was deliberate.

Seeing as how the avarage monster has an ATK of about 1700, That means it will swing for about 1/5 of your 8000 Lifepoints.

 

Running Cylinder in 3s, means the opponent would lose about 3/5 of his 8000 Lifepoints, without any real effort to it at all.

Since it would effectivly be like this: Attacking first = you lose.

[morfowt]

true the monster would still be there, but maybe their attack was a one-chance-only sort of thing, and you could easily destroy during your turn. its usefulness varies with situations.

 

well by slightly less helpful, i mean you can only use it once in a duel in normal circumstances. you can't put in multiples to use its effect again, which does make it slightly less useful. if you knew that's what I meant, then please elaborate a little more, because I don't completely understand your point.

[Tronta]

this topic is amazing. its like, nostalgia from when i was first learning the game and it was fun!

 

alright.

cylinder is not good in this meta. it isnt any better in burn and the next guy who says it is is getting a mouth full of foot and dick.

 

d prison is hardly better, but the reason d prison is usable in this meta is that it rfg's the monster. this makes it immediately inaccessible to a lot of decks. damage is inconsequential next to the ability to render a key card unusable.

 

negate attack is also not better than cylinder. not by a long shot. unless your in counter fairies, and then youve already lost so it doesnt matter.

 

 

last, get this highlander list away from me.

its not good. and you know what? it shouldnt be. dont follow people on this site. youll only end up making your deck meta and not fun. enjoy this game while youre still bad at it.

[morfowt]

so if he shouldn't make his deck meta (which I agree 100% with), it means it doesn't matter whether or not magic cylinder is good in the meta, it's still good. sure there are some (maybe a lot) better cards, but that doesn't mean magic cylinder is bad.

[Tronta]

if magical cylinder can survive against whoever he's playing, its a good card.

[werewolfjedi]

this topic is amazing. its like' date=' nostalgia from when i was first learning the game and it was fun!

 

alright.

cylinder is not good in this meta. it isnt any better in burn and the next guy who says it is is getting a mouth full of foot and dick.

 

d prison is hardly better, but the reason d prison is usable in this meta is that it rfg's the monster. this makes it immediately inaccessible to a lot of decks. damage is inconsequential next to the ability to render a key card unusable.

 

negate attack is also not better than cylinder. not by a long shot. unless your in counter fairies, and then youve already lost so it doesnt matter.

 

 

last, get this highlander list away from me.

its not good. and you know what? it shouldnt be. dont follow people on this site. youll only end up making your deck meta and not fun. enjoy this game while youre still bad at it.

[/quote']

 

yeah, I'm kinda getting that feeling too, but I honestly have to say, I was never quite that bad in terms of how I built my decks (you know, the whole one card thing.) but did obsess over dark magician.

I would play every card I could find that would help me bring it out, and I kept my deck as small as possible to make sure I drew it, like it was good luck when I finally did.

and that deck got pretty crazy. when I went to my first tourney with it, I actually did beat some "based on meta but not enough money to make it" GB decks and this was when they had their gyzarus spam stuff going on.

 

I may have gotten better, and stopped using him, but I am still a DM-fanboy.

 

and thats why I specialize in spellcasters.

 

now for you kid, don't expect to win a single game with a deck like that.

I suggest focusing on your favorate card, and then buff it bigger than Mai's boobs. that usualy can pull off a lucky win once in a while, and start you on the right path.

[daboss144]

this topic is amazing. its like' date=' nostalgia from when i was first learning the game and it was fun!

 

alright.

cylinder is not good in this meta. it isnt any better in burn and the next guy who says it is is getting a mouth full of foot and dick.

 

d prison is hardly better, but the reason d prison is usable in this meta is that it rfg's the monster. this makes it immediately inaccessible to a lot of decks. damage is inconsequential next to the ability to render a key card unusable.

 

negate attack is also not better than cylinder. not by a long shot. unless your in counter fairies, and then youve already lost so it doesnt matter.

 

 

last, get this highlander list away from me.

its not good. and you know what? it shouldnt be. dont follow people on this site. youll only end up making your deck meta and not fun. enjoy this game while youre still bad at it.

[/quote']

 

yeah, I'm kinda getting that feeling too, but I honestly have to say, I was never quite that bad in terms of how I built my decks (you know, the whole one card thing.) but did obsess over dark magician.

I would play every card I could find that would help me bring it out, and I kept my deck as small as possible to make sure I drew it, like it was good luck when I finally did.

and that deck got pretty crazy. when I went to my first tourney with it, I actually did beat some "based on meta but not enough money to make it" GB decks and this was when they had their gyzarus spam stuff going on.

 

I may have gotten better, and stopped using him, but I am still a DM-fanboy.

 

and thats why I specialize in spellcasters.

 

now for you kid, don't expect to win a single game with a deck like that.

I suggest focusing on your favorate card, and then buff it bigger than Mai's boobs. that usualy can pull off a lucky win once in a while, and start you on the right path.

 

Especially if your favorite card is Judgment Dragon...

[Zenharu]

this topic is amazing. its like' date=' nostalgia from when i was first learning the game and it was fun!

 

alright.

cylinder is not good in this meta. it isnt any better in burn and the next guy who says it is is getting a mouth full of foot and dick.

 

d prison is hardly better, but the reason d prison is usable in this meta is that it rfg's the monster. this makes it immediately inaccessible to a lot of decks. damage is inconsequential next to the ability to render a key card unusable.

 

negate attack is also not better than cylinder. not by a long shot. unless your in counter fairies, and then youve already lost so it doesnt matter.

 

 

last, get this highlander list away from me.

its not good. and you know what? it shouldnt be. dont follow people on this site. youll only end up making your deck meta and not fun. enjoy this game while youre still bad at it.

[/quote']

 

yeah, I'm kinda getting that feeling too, but I honestly have to say, I was never quite that bad in terms of how I built my decks (you know, the whole one card thing.) but did obsess over dark magician.

I would play every card I could find that would help me bring it out, and I kept my deck as small as possible to make sure I drew it, like it was good luck when I finally did.

and that deck got pretty crazy. when I went to my first tourney with it, I actually did beat some "based on meta but not enough money to make it" GB decks and this was when they had their gyzarus spam stuff going on.

 

I may have gotten better, and stopped using him, but I am still a DM-fanboy.

 

and thats why I specialize in spellcasters.

 

now for you kid, don't expect to win a single game with a deck like that.

I suggest focusing on your favorate card, and then buff it bigger than Mai's boobs. that usualy can pull off a lucky win once in a while, and start you on the right path.

 

Especially if your favorite card is Judgment Dragon...

I wanna meet the guy who's favorite card is Judgment Dragon and punch him in the face for being a tool. (This is coming from a Lightsworn player mind you)

 

If you want to build your deck around Dark Paladin, that is most definitely do able. In fact, a YCM user build a Dark Paladin deck back when Perfect Circle ruled the meta, and it was more than competitive.

 

As for the Magical Cylindar thing, the card is fine, it's not BAD, it's just not up to par anymore.

[daboss144]

this topic is amazing. its like' date=' nostalgia from when i was first learning the game and it was fun!

 

alright.

cylinder is not good in this meta. it isnt any better in burn and the next guy who says it is is getting a mouth full of foot and dick.

 

d prison is hardly better, but the reason d prison is usable in this meta is that it rfg's the monster. this makes it immediately inaccessible to a lot of decks. damage is inconsequential next to the ability to render a key card unusable.

 

negate attack is also not better than cylinder. not by a long shot. unless your in counter fairies, and then youve already lost so it doesnt matter.

 

 

last, get this highlander list away from me.

its not good. and you know what? it shouldnt be. dont follow people on this site. youll only end up making your deck meta and not fun. enjoy this game while youre still bad at it.

[/quote']

 

yeah, I'm kinda getting that feeling too, but I honestly have to say, I was never quite that bad in terms of how I built my decks (you know, the whole one card thing.) but did obsess over dark magician.

I would play every card I could find that would help me bring it out, and I kept my deck as small as possible to make sure I drew it, like it was good luck when I finally did.

and that deck got pretty crazy. when I went to my first tourney with it, I actually did beat some "based on meta but not enough money to make it" GB decks and this was when they had their gyzarus spam stuff going on.

 

I may have gotten better, and stopped using him, but I am still a DM-fanboy.

 

and thats why I specialize in spellcasters.

 

now for you kid, don't expect to win a single game with a deck like that.

I suggest focusing on your favorate card, and then buff it bigger than Mai's boobs. that usualy can pull off a lucky win once in a while, and start you on the right path.

 

Especially if your favorite card is Judgment Dragon...

I wanna meet the guy who's favorite card is Judgment Dragon and punch him in the face for being a tool. (This is coming from a Lightsworn player mind you)

 

If you want to build your deck around Dark Paladin, that is most definitely do able. In fact, a YCM user build a Dark Paladin deck back when Perfect Circle ruled the meta, and it was more than competitive.

 

As for the Magical Cylindar thing, the card is fine, it's not BAD, it's just not up to par anymore.

 

Magic cylinder is perfect, however for burn decks.

 

So what card do you specifically want to base your deck around? Once you decide that it will be a lot easier for us to help compile a list for you.

[Expelsword]

Well, picking my favorite card would be Black Luster Solder - Envoy of the Beginning

 

but that obviously doesn't work

 

my second favorite card would be dark paladin, but are they even made anymore?

[.dek]

you could get a dark paladin easily from a card shop

[jabber2033]

If you want Dark Paladin, just get Duelist Pack: Yugi. Here’s a sample Dark Paladin deck if you want something to go by:

 

19

3x Dark Magician

3x Buster Blader

2x Skilled Dark Magician

2x Elemental Hero Prisma

2x Breaker the Magical Warrior

2x King of the Swamp

2x The Dark – Hex Sealed Fusion

1x Sangan

1x Crystal Seer

1x Old Vindictive Magician

 

15

3x Polymerization

2x Allure of Darkness

2x Emblem of Dragon Destroyer

1x Heavy Storm

1x Mystical Space Typhoon

1x Giant Trunade

1x Future Fusion

1x Fusion Recovery

2x Book of Moon

1x Pot of Avarice

 

6

1x Call of the Haunted

1x Mirror Force

2x Bottomless Trap Hole

2x Threatening Roar

 

3

3x Dark Paladin

[morfowt]

I personally think skilled white magician should be added in there as well...

[werewolfjedi]

If you want Dark Paladin' date=' just get Duelist Pack: Yugi. Here’s a sample Dark Paladin deck if you want something to go by:

 

19

3x Dark Magician

3x Buster Blader

2x Skilled Dark Magician

2x Elemental Hero Prisma

2x Breaker the Magical Warrior

2x King of the Swamp

2x The Dark – Hex Sealed Fusion

1x Sangan

1x Crystal Seer

1x Old Vindictive Magician

 

15

3x Polymerization

2x Allure of Darkness

2x Emblem of Dragon Destroyer

1x Heavy Storm

1x Mystical Space Typhoon

1x Giant Trunade

1x Future Fusion

1x Fusion Recovery

2x Book of Moon

1x Pot of Avarice

 

6

1x Call of the Haunted

1x Mirror Force

2x Bottomless Trap Hole

2x Threatening Roar

 

3

3x Dark Paladin

[/quote']

 

I would say try to get miricale restoreing in someway, since it grave revives DM or BB for just 2 spell counters, and it's chainable.