ATK/DEF /Original ATK/DEF

[BulletMan]

 

 

Obviously is fake. But Discuss how this card would change, if any, the meta.

 

And Discuss ? monsters and what the title says.

[Mister Sir]

It wouldn't change anything.

 

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[Aximil]

[GenzoTheHarpist]

I get the feeling you can do something really neat with that card, but I don't know what.

[byak]

Stops Honest, Gale, Shrink, and Kalut, mirite?

[burnpsy]

Would kill Machines even more.

 

Stops Honest' date=' Gale, Shrink, and Kalut, mirite?

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It doesn't stop Shrink.

[Wizarus]

Should be a continuous spell.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

Wait, is this ruled like "the monster's attack becomes what is written on the card" or "their current attack becomes their original attack" as that is 2 COMPELTELY different things, like the misunderstanding with Submarineroid.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Wait' date=' is this ruled like "the monster's attack becomes what is written on the card" or "their current attack becomes their original attack" as that is 2 [b']COMPELTELY[/b] different things, like the misunderstanding with Submarineroid.

 

I think it's the later, as implied by the "and keep the ATK" part.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

... Hmmm... Blackwings would run it, period.

[BulletMan]

If it had an ATK boost card like "Axe of Despair" equipped, and the monster had 1000 ATK (+Axe = 2000 ATK), that monsters original ATK becomes 2000, but "Axe of Despair" is still equipped, so it gains 1000, making its total ATK 3000. That's the ruling there.

 

For ? monsters, they keep their current ATK, like "the Calculator" which ATK then becomes 600. It then gets it's ATK boost making it 1200 ATK. But if another monster (lets say a Level 1) comes out, it then becomes 1500 because this card wasn't activated then.

 

It practically doubles Fortune Ladies ATK.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

If it had an ATK boost card like "Axe of Despair" equipped' date=' and the monster had 1000 ATK (+Axe = 2000 ATK), that monsters original ATK becomes 2000, but "Axe of Despair" is still equipped, so it gains 1000, making its total ATK 3000. That's the ruling there.

 

For ? monsters, they keep their current ATK, like "the Calculator" which ATK then becomes 600. It then gets it's ATK boost making it 1200 ATK. But if another monster (lets say a Level 1) comes out, it then becomes 1500 because this card wasn't activated then.

 

It practically doubles Fortune Ladies ATK.

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Blackwings use Sirocco + Kalut, activate this, insta-perma-beatstick, PTD would also love this, as would Benkei (OP much?)

[GenzoTheHarpist]

Ah... if that's the case, Sirocco is a walking OTK now.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

Ah... if that's the case' date=' Sirocco is a walking OTK now.

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Well, his isn't a constant effect, so the ATK wouldn't double, but if used with Megamorph...

[burnpsy]

In that case, scratch what I said about this killing Machines.

 

Plus, I'd run this with Morphs to abuse Radion. :3

[Wizarus]

Oh never mind, this card is broken. I was under the impression that the card prevented ATK/DEF increases by reverting the stats to where they orginally were.

[darkwolf777]

Oh never mind' date=' this card is broken. I was under the impression that the card prevented ATK/DEF increases by reverting the stats to where they orginally were.

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I thought this as well. The way TC wants it to be is meh x.x

 

Besides, even if it was the way we thought, wouldn't Reverse Trap work just as well (or better since increases would be lowered) for the idea we had in mind anyway?

 

Maybe though I could see myself missing something that bypasses that where setting the attack to their printed value would be better. Definitely no surprised in regards to ATK/DEF then.

[Toffee.]

It doesn't stop Shrink.

How so?

 

Shrink and TCs card are both ATK modifiers.

So wouldnt it work to where the most recent used is what gets applied?

[Wizarus]

Oh never mind' date=' this card is broken. I was under the impression that the card prevented ATK/DEF increases by reverting the stats to where they orginally were.

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I thought this as well. The way TC wants it to be is meh x.x

 

Besides, even if it was the way we thought, wouldn't Reverse Trap work just as well (or better since increases would be lowered) for the idea we had in mind anyway?

 

Maybe though I could see myself missing something that bypasses that where setting the attack to their printed value would be better. Definitely no surprised in regards to ATK/DEF then.

 

Except Reverse Trap can't be chained to Honest and it only can be used 3x at most(But who would run Reverse Trap at 3 anyway?). If they made a Continuous Spell version of the card we're talking about, It would affect all stat increases/decreases that occur during the Damage Step. The effect would probably be worded in that way though, and it would be easier to understand.

[Mehmani]

Ben Kei would be very happy.