Monztor Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 I'm seeing so many topics about it. So why not discuss one of the archetypes that uses one? Naturias! Lock down galore, but I'm not sure how to run them yet. I wanna learn how so when they do come out I'll be prepared! Here's some of my favorites so far: [No pictures atm for laziness and to reduce page load time] Naturia Butterfly [Ground/Insect/Tuner/Effect] Level 3-500/1200 : Once per turn, when a monster your opponent controls declares an attack, activate this card effect. Send the top card of your Deck to the Graveyard and negate that attack. Naturia Horneedle [Ground/Insect/Effect] Level 4-1800/100 : When your opponent Special Summons a monster(s), you can Tribute 1 other face-up "Naturia" monster to destroy that monster(s). Naturia Mantis [Ground/Insect/Effect] Level 4-1700/1500 : When your opponent Normal Summons a monster, you can send 1 "Naturia" monster from your hand to the Graveyard to destroy that monster. Naturia Mosquito [Ground/Insect/Effect] Level 1-200/300 : While you control a face-up "Naturia" monster other than this card, your opponent cannot select this card as an attack target. If you would take Battle Damage when another face-up "Naturia" monster you control battles, your opponent takes the Damage instead.[/i] Naturia Stinkbug [Ground/Insect/Tuner/Effect] Level 3-200/500 :When a face-up "Naturia" monster you control is attacked, you can send this face-up card you control to the Graveyard to negate that attack and end the Battle Phase. Naturia Bamboochute [Ground/Plant/Effect] Level 5-2000/2000: If you Tribute Summon this card successfully using a "Naturia" monster as a Tribute, your opponent cannot activate Spell or Trap Cards while this card is face-up on the field. And of courseeeee..Naturia Extrio [Ground/Beast/Fusion/Effect] Level 10-2800/2400: "Naturia Beast" + "Naturia Balkion"A Fusion Summon of this card can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material Monsters. While this card is face-up on the field, by removing from play 1 card in your Graveyard and sending 1 card from the top of your Deck to the Graveyard, negate the activation of a Spell or Trap Card and destroy it. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Extrio seems fantastic, but that seems really hard to summon since both of them are synchros... Granted they are a vital part of the deck, but still. Also, it seems to have the same problem as Heraklinos, being vulnerable to monster effects, but without a counter trap to take care of those pesky effects... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Extrio seems fantastic' date=' but that seems really hard to summon since both of them are synchros... Granted they are a vital part of the deck, but still. Also, it seems to have the same problem as Heraklinos, being vulnerable to monster effects, but without a counter trap to take care of those pesky effects...[/quote']Sadly, extrio is so much harder to pull out that that psychic one, as they have a ton of different syncrhos of different levels and its not as specific. I can see this deck running a ton of monster effect negation cards, like my body as a shield, divine wrath, and most probably starlight road. Any other ideas on how to counter effects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Forbidden Chalice? You could also endphase Scapegoat and then bring out Plasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted March 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Or you could use Effect Veiler like an awesome person. You forgot Naturia Mantis in the list of good Naturias =/Added Mantis. How did I forget it? D= Effect veiler looks pretty interesting. And Plasama looks like it might be able to work in this deck, as this deck will be negating attacks left and right and stopping opponent from summoning, meaning getting three naturias out is more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolTama Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 Extrio seems fantastic' date=' but that seems really hard to summon since both of them are synchros...[/quote'] That's why you run Earth Hex. I run it in WC10. It's awesome. On that note. Do NOT run Butterfly. You're better off using Stinkbug and Cosmobeet as your tuners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesirson Posted March 13, 2010 Report Share Posted March 13, 2010 So Extrio sends one card from the Grave AND remove from play one card in the Grave to activate. WAIT, doesn't that make it, liek, unlimited negation powers? (Unless you Deck out, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monztor Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Extrio seems fantastic' date=' but that seems really hard to summon since both of them are synchros...[/quote'] That's why you run Earth Hex. I run it in WC10. It's awesome. On that note. Do NOT run Butterfly. You're better off using Stinkbug and Cosmobeet as your tuners.Rat Naturia Box? Can you Miracle Synchro Fusion with Hex in the grave or field? That sounds amazing =D @Kuroda: Yeah =D Just gotta watch for monster effects though D= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAmNateXero Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Do want. Gotta crack out my b list soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. you act like that's a hard summoning condition. I'm not 100% sure on how Naturia's will be played, but it shouldn't be hard to tribute summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. you act like that's a hard summoning condition. I'm not 100% sure on how Naturia's will be played' date=' but it shouldn't be hard to tribute summon.[/quote'] Tribute Summoning is a -1, rarely used except for monarchs in meta. It is worth it for a one card lock down, but could easily be owned by most low levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 could easily be owned by most low levels. yes, 2000 ATK is low. It'll need a little protection. The card is still very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. you act like that's a hard summoning condition. I'm not 100% sure on how Naturia's will be played' date=' but it shouldn't be hard to tribute summon.[/quote'] Tribute Summoning is a -1, rarely used except for monarchs in meta. It is worth it for a one card lock down, but could easily be owned by most low levels. Cyber Dragon can easily plow it over.Lightsworns also have no problem taking down.So do alot of other Meta-esque decks. If it were really "Broken", it would make Naturas meta-worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. you act like that's a hard summoning condition. I'm not 100% sure on how Naturia's will be played' date=' but it shouldn't be hard to tribute summon.[/quote'] Tribute Summoning is a -1, rarely used except for monarchs in meta. It is worth it for a one card lock down, but could easily be owned by most low levels. Cyber Dragon can easily plow it over.Lightsworns also have no problem taking down.So do alot of other Meta-esque decks. If it were really "Broken", it would make Naturas meta-worthy. If it were 2500+ ATK points, then it would be meta-worthy, that would make a difference in how long it could last on the field. Perhaps if he could be protected by Wall of Revealing Light (gets shot but lives), Messenger of Peace while Stalling (gets shot again), or other random protection card that people do not like anymore (gets shot again and fails to die again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. you act like that's a hard summoning condition. I'm not 100% sure on how Naturia's will be played' date=' but it shouldn't be hard to tribute summon.[/quote'] Tribute Summoning is a -1, rarely used except for monarchs in meta. It is worth it for a one card lock down, but could easily be owned by most low levels. Cyber Dragon can easily plow it over.Lightsworns also have no problem taking down.So do alot of other Meta-esque decks. If it were really "Broken", it would make Naturas meta-worthy. If it were 2500+ ATK points, then it would be meta-worthy, that would make a difference in how long it could last on the field. Perhaps if he could be protected by Wall of Revealing Light (gets shot but lives), Messenger of Peace while Stalling (gets shot again), or other random protection card that people do not like anymore (gets shot again and fails to die again). Or you can flip Forced Back on it. ......but who runs that anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Bamboochute=broken. Am I the only one that sees this?Its not broken. Its an archtype specific Jinzo+Horus that requires you to Normal Summon it via offering a "Naturia" monster. you act like that's a hard summoning condition. I'm not 100% sure on how Naturia's will be played' date=' but it shouldn't be hard to tribute summon.[/quote'] Tribute Summoning is a -1, rarely used except for monarchs in meta. It is worth it for a one card lock down, but could easily be owned by most low levels. Cyber Dragon can easily plow it over.Lightsworns also have no problem taking down.So do alot of other Meta-esque decks. If it were really "Broken", it would make Naturas meta-worthy. If it were 2500+ ATK points, then it would be meta-worthy, that would make a difference in how long it could last on the field. Perhaps if he could be protected by Wall of Revealing Light (gets shot but lives), Messenger of Peace while Stalling (gets shot again), or other random protection card that people do not like anymore (gets shot again and fails to die again). Or you can flip Forced Back on it. ......but who runs that anyway? Can you activate forced back on Jinzo, or no... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Jinzo+Horus made a hell of a lock way back. Give this thing higher ATK and you have a good monster. But Monster effects could still beat it. (Damn you DAD/JD/tons of other monsters!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Can you activate forced back on Jinzo' date=' or no...[/quote']Dude, this is basic rulings :3Solemn and Forced Back can be used on Jinzo.They Negate your Summon for that monster, before it even hits the field.Plus, they are Counter Traps. So they are faster anyway. Jinzo+Horus made a hell of a lock way back. Give this thing higher ATK and you have a good monster.That was the point. Oh, and using Bamboo means you cant abuse Naturia Forest as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 Can you activate forced back on Jinzo' date=' or no...[/quote']Dude, this is basic rulings :3Solemn and Forced Back can be used on Jinzo.They Negate your Summon for that monster, before it even hits the field.Plus, they are Counter Traps. So they are faster anyway. Jinzo+Horus made a hell of a lock way back. Give this thing higher ATK and you have a good monster.That was the point. Oh' date=' and using Bamboo means you cant abuse Naturia Forest as much.[/quote'] But purple is slower than Orange (gets shot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 They look like a really fun deck to play with. In fact they would be the next deck I make in WC10. It's Dragon and Tiger synchros are two of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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