evilfusion Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I think Vicious Claw has that clause so it doesn't invoke an easy field purge/burn thing going. You can suicide a Vicious-Clawed monster, nuke one other monster on the field and deal 600, then return it to your hand and reactivate it otherwise, preserving another monster from destruction and could possibly be keeping it safe from the Evil Token assuming you're not running Remove Brainwashing. But Claw also stops you from using it for discards/etc for the turn. Banning an 1800 warrior that can't use equips? Lol...no. Ban the equip that abuses that effect and has no other useful purpose in the game aside from either sucky Guardian Elma or such loops? Please do. The nice thing about banning the Dagger is that NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO CARE. It's not a pointless ban, just one that doesn't piss people off. Gearfriend may not see any play, but compared to the Dagger, it's a better card to have around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Gearfried has synergy with cards like Blast With Chain and Smoke Grenade of the Thief, and counters various opposing cards like Mark of the Rose. Elma is just terrible. Thus, Gearfried helps the game more, so we save him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Gearfried has synergy with cards like Blast With Chain and Smoke Grenade of the Thief' date=' and counters various opposing cards like Mark of the Rose. Elma is just terrible. Thus, Gearfried helps the game more, so we save him.[/quote'] Elma is the true "Worst card ever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Just make a card that's treated as Butterfly Dagger Elma that can only be activated twice/once per turn. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Also if you equip Gearfried with Black Pendant, you can inflict 500 damage to your opponent RIGHT AWAY. Ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 Also if you equip Gearfried with Black Pendant' date=' you can inflict 500 damage to your opponent RIGHT AWAY. Ban ban ban ban ban ban ban ban![/quote'] My thoughts exactly. But imagine, Double Summon > Gearfried > Library > Elma's Dagger = Exodia. That and Marionette are two of the main reasons this is at 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Borg Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 The loop could also be used with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 This topic is full of YCM LOGIC Gearfried is harmless. The Butterfly Dagger was the problem and will always BE the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 23, 2010 Report Share Posted March 23, 2010 This topic is full of YCM LOGIC Gearfried is harmless. The Butterfly Dagger was the problem and will always BE the problem. that's debatable, but I do agree with you, elma creates more problems than the iron knight.the iron knight actually makes a deck great idea, elma can only be abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.B X Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 OMG! What are you guys saying? Awesome banned card right? But its awesomeness is only acheived with Gearfried iron knight? Either deal with it. OR Play Traditional Format and Kick ass with Elma OTK Loop :d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 ITT: kingdom Neos makes an idiot of himself. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 OMG! What are you guys saying? Awesome banned card right? But its awesomeness is only acheived with Gearfried iron knight? Either deal with it. OR Play Traditional Format and Kick ass with Elma OTK Loop :d You speak the truth, btw, why is this topic even still alive? 5 Minutes later someone replies to this saying that it is alive due to noobs like me replying asking why causes the forum to be bumped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makemap Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Lol, not only those, How about 3 tower of babels?http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tower_of_Babel Freaking stop your opponent from activating any spells.So banned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Technically, it doesn't stop anyone from using spells. You think this scares me? I'll blow myself up, you'll see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Lol' date=' not only those, How about 3 tower of babels?http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tower_of_Babel Freaking stop your opponent from activating any spells.[img']http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/d/d0/TowerofBabelSDSC-EN-C-1E.jpg/400px-TowerofBabelSDSC-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img]So banned! Imperial Order would like a word. Based on this topic, because top-decking an awesome card is too devasting. people shouldnt be able to draw anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Lol' date=' not only those, How about 3 tower of babels?http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tower_of_Babel Freaking stop your opponent from activating any spells.[img']http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/d/d0/TowerofBabelSDSC-EN-C-1E.jpg/400px-TowerofBabelSDSC-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img]So banned! Imperial Order would like a word. Based on this topic, because top-decking an awesome card is too devasting. people shouldnt be able to draw anymore. imperial order whould makes it so the effects never trigger, since they must die to deal damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 It works even better With Phoenix Gearfried!! And tower of babel is useful for cards like inferno Tempest making your opponent choose between the lesser of 2 evils. 3000 to their lifepoints...or their entire deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 It works even better With Phoenix Gearfried!! And tower of babel is useful for cards like inferno Tempest making your opponent choose between the lesser of 2 evils. 3000 to their lifepoints...or their entire deck Inferno Tempest can only respond to taking 3000 or more battle damage, not effect damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Ahh well...Still useful Use it with PMD or Rainbow life and u get Plus 3000 points...Or I smell a very convulted Brain Research OTK going on. This(w/ 3 spell counters)Brain Research with like 10 Rainbow Life Set as back upAnd Barrel Behind the Door set. Activate Heavy Storm then Both Brain Research and Babel activate and BAM activate Barrel and WHAM they take 13000...in case they Dark Bribe your barrel, activate Rainbow Life and gain 13000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted March 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 It works even better With Phoenix Gearfried!!It would miss the timing with Phoenix Gearfried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Ahh well...Still useful Use it with PMD or Rainbow life and u get Plus 3000 points...Or I smell a very convulted Brain Research OTK going on. This(w/ 3 spell counters)Brain Research with like 10 Rainbow Life Set as back upAnd Barrel Behind the Door set. Activate Heavy Storm then Both Brain Research and Babel activate and BAM activate Barrel and WHAM they take 13000...in case they Dark Bribe your barrel' date=' activate Rainbow Life and gain 13000[/quote'] So many things wrong with what you just said :D 1) If Heavy Storm would destroy Tower of Babel, then Tower of Babel will not activate and destroy itself, even if Heavy Storm were to put the 4th Spell Counter on Tower of Babel as Heavy Storm would destroy it before Tower of Babel could destroy itself. 2) Tower of Babel is a Continuous Effect and does not start a chain when it received the 4th Spell Counter. You would not be able to chain Barrel Behind the Door or Rainbow Life to it receiving a 4th Spell Counter 3) Rulings state Brain Research Lab doesn't start a chain for either of its effects. You would not be able to chain Barrel behind the Door or Rainbow Life to it. 4) Barrel Behind the Door can only reflect the damage on the effect its chained to. Even if it could reflect either of these effects, it would only reflect the one it was chained to, not both of them. 5) If they Dark Bribe your Barrel Behind the Door, you would not be able to chain Rainbow Life to it, because it is Spell Speed 2, and Dark Bribe is Spell Speed 3. To play it safe, you'd have to activate Rainbow Life before you Heavy Storm'd and before you triggered Tower of Babel. Barrel Behind the Door wouldn't be able to reflect either of these effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 QuestionWhere did you learn this because I know duelists who cheat now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 yugioh.wikia.com the rulings are usually sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.WHAM Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Thank you...^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 27, 2010 Report Share Posted March 27, 2010 Protopic. Kingdom Neos is a shining beacon of YCMitude. POSTING IN IMAGES IS PEACEFREEDOM IS FANBOYISM SEMI-LIMITING TORRENTIAL IS STRENGTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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