-Griffin Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 So, I was thinking about how cards that negate 1 specific card are useless because they're so situational, so I was wondering what RC would think of something that negates just about all splash-cards in the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Great pic and idea, i think it may need to be worded in the effect different if you want to counter more cards or did u only want to counter those ones? 8.5/10 =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Great pic and idea' date=' i think it may need to be worded in the effect different if you want to counter more cards or did u only want to counter those ones? 8.5/10 =)[/quote'] Just those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 Yay for good side-tech material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TableCloth358 Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I would just use Dark Bribe or Solemn Judgment. There are just so many new cards that people use it wouldn't help too much. But other than that good card could help, and would Murder my Deck lol 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 It's like Dark Bribe without a cost, but with fewer negation options. Though the 'options' in question are used very frequently, I'll give you that. Eh, I would still run Bribe over this. Good card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 It's like Dark Bribe without a cost' date=' but with fewer negation options. Though the 'options' in question are used very frequently, I'll give you that. Eh, I would still run Bribe over this. Good card.[/quote'] Bribe's an option, but it's a -1. -1s can very easily lose duels. I'm actually seeing this as fairly effective vs Glads, which tend to run Books - should I add D-Prison to the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clair Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 It's like Dark Bribe without a cost' date=' but with fewer negation options. Though the 'options' in question are used very frequently, I'll give you that. Eh, I would still run Bribe over this. Good card.[/quote'] Bribe's an option, but it's a -1. -1s can very easily lose duels. Correct. However, Bribe negates any Spell or Trap. This one only negates common cards used in the metagame nowadays. And when new, game-breaking Spell/Trap cards come out, this card isn't going to have them listed. =/ I'd side this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 When Konami do that... wait, maybe it won't make it... Mmmm... still situational, thought I would use Bribe too, but this is a Great Option.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARLCGL Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 wow, this effetc is just funny to negate all the overused cards =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmallieBigs Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 I like this card a lot. Negates pretty much every spell or trap staple. I would definately side this if it was real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Like, really? Half the cards listed on this are limited to 1. If you play against people who have positive IQs and are running meta decks, you maindeck 3 of these. Then the paradox happens. More people maindeck this, the cards listed see less use, which would be hilarious. People not using Torrential, Heavy Storm, ahaha. People use the cards less, this card turns into a dead draw, nobody uses it anymore. Nobody uses this, people go back to playing those cards. It negates 16 different cards, almost all of them perfectly viable options in any good deck. I can't believe people would rather +1 their opponent than outright counter almost half of the cards in their Deck. xD On the realistic end, a list of 16 cards is "slightly" overpowered, but it's a nice slap in the face to what people apparently fail to acknowledge as a staple-heavy metagame. Lol. 10/10 for the concept of anti-staple cards, 10/10 for the humorous comments of people who would rather run Dark Bribe. 7/10 on the review. ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Like' date=' really? Half the cards listed on this are limited to 1. If you play against people who have positive IQs and are running meta decks, you maindeck 3 of these. Then the paradox happens. More people maindeck this, the cards listed see less use, which would be hilarious. People not using Torrential, Heavy Storm, ahaha. People use the cards less, this card turns into a dead draw, nobody uses it anymore. Nobody uses this, people go back to playing those cards. It negates 16 different cards, almost all of them perfectly viable options in any good deck. I can't believe people would rather +1 their opponent than outright counter almost half of the cards in their Deck. xD On the realistic end, a list of 16 cards is "slightly" overpowered, but it's a nice slap in the face to what people apparently fail to acknowledge as a staple-heavy metagame. Lol. 10/10 for the concept of anti-staple cards, 10/10 for the humorous comments of people who would rather run Dark Bribe. 7/10 on the review. ;D[/quote'] Glad to see someone that thought of it as I did. I thought about it after reading Sirlin's idea of "Yomi Layers". That concept it around making plays in-game, but I decided to see what it might be like to play the game of predicting your opponent's Deck(s), and responding to them in a Yomi Layer fashion. Then you get the fun of this in side-Decks, whoever read the opponent's Deck wrong can change to fit it - or maybe the opponent will counter that? Yay for Yomi Layers xD tl;dr Good Decks use staples, so you do. Your opponent knew you'd think that, so is maining this. You guessed they'd think that, so took out all your staples. Your opponent knew you'd do that, so didn't run this. You guessed that, so you're running staples, ect. Still considering adding D-Prison, Cold Wave and Trunade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 D-Prison maybe, the other two are at 1 and don't see a giant amount of use. Plus, 20 cards would be stupid. Like, straight up. <_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost-O Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Good side deck material in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Not situational, guys. It's actually really mainable.I'd main this over Starlight Road, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 D-Prison maybe' date=' the other two are at 1 and don't see a [i']giant[/i] amount of use. Plus, 20 cards would be stupid. Like, straight up. <_< That's why they aren't there now.Should I remove M-Con? It's play isn't that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyson Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Its play is high in any Deck that Synchros, which in this meta translates to any good Deck. So yeah, its play is pretty high. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted April 16, 2010 Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Good side deck material in my opinion. Yep, because once you find out in game 1 that apparently your opponent mains staples, you have to add this to your deck immediately.Only happens a bit less than half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2010 Eh, the play of it's definitely dropped. It, theoretically, should be in any Deck that synchros, but I'm seeing more and more Decks that "just don't have room" and couldn't say any card in the Deck was less helpful overall than M-Con. Maybe it's just an oddity that I see these Decks and I can't take it as a reliable sample, but I don't know where to get Decklists from many tourneys other than OCG ones, so eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Smeagle Posted April 17, 2010 Report Share Posted April 17, 2010 I think it should negate "Honest," then it would be perfect. But even so, I believe it would do wonders for the metagame. And it would encourage more people to use non-staples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Negating Honest could be a good idea - I couldn't think of any common enough monster for some reason (maybe Trago?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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