With so many anti-Defense cards flying around...

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

It looks like one of my most beloved deck types is becoming more and more useless. So many beatstick nowadays has some sort of defense-destroying, flipping, or piercing effects that it seems like defending with an actual defense monster, and therefore using a deck based around defending, is becoming more and more impossible.

 

Rock-Types and beefy defenders are losing their edge, though I suppose they do have a bit of support.

 

Anyways, what are your thoughts on the subject? I know that due to the fast pace of the Meta it isn't exactly viable anyways, but where do you think defenders and defense decks are headed?

[Aximil]

Rock-Types and beefy defenders are losing their edge' date=' though I suppose they do have a bit of support.[/quote']

 

They're becoming offensive.

[Toffee.]

Rock-Types

They have Koaki'Meiru Guardian and Sandman.

 

At the rate we are going, Rock-Types can effectivly negate anything.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Rock-Types and beefy defenders are losing their edge' date=' though I suppose they do have a bit of support.[/quote']

 

They're becoming offensive.

I was going to comment on that, but it seemed a bit unnecessary. Anyways, I really just want to focus on the defense aspect, seeing as they had been based around it for such a long time, and it's pretty much what they're known for.

 

@Armadilloz: Those cards are good and all, but that's two cards which can be used in limited numbers, and which can just be taken out in battle, or whatever they don't negate anyways. They offer good defensive support, but not too many rocks are good in the attacking category, so they couldn't support these two well.

[Aximil]

Rock-Types

They have Koaki'Meiru Guardian and Sandman.

 

At the rate we are going' date=' Rock-Types can effectivly negate anything.

[/quote']

 

They also have swarm and insane beatstick going. Megarock, Gigantes, Gaia Plate, etc; etc;

[Great Unclean One: VK]

At this rate, Rock types will become a anti-meta beatstick type of deck.

 

I liek.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Rock-Types

They have Koaki'Meiru Guardian and Sandman.

 

At the rate we are going' date=' Rock-Types can effectivly negate anything.

[/quote']

 

They also have swarm and insane beatstick going. Megarock, Gigantes, Gaia Plate, etc; etc;

Other than Gaia Plate, I can't think of many Rock-Types other than the ones already listed that are "beatsticks" which are easily accessible. (That might just be because I've been missing from the forums and the YGO world for a while, though)

[Toffee.]

Rock-Types

They have Koaki'Meiru Guardian and Sandman.

 

At the rate we are going' date=' Rock-Types can effectivly negate anything.

[/quote']

 

They also have swarm and insane beatstick going. Megarock, Gigantes, Gaia Plate, etc; etc;

Other than Gaia Plate, I can't think of many Rock-Types other than the ones already listed that are "beatsticks" which are easily accessible. (That might just be because I've been missing from the forums and the YGO world for a while, though)

 

Things like Gigantes are easily accessible ;)

[Jord200]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Stronghold_Guardian

 

its a start.....

[Dr. Cakey]

I <3 Gaia Plate.

 

Basically, Synchros killed any hope of a defensive monster deck, since you can just about always run over any defense your opponent has.

[Wizarus]

 

People just don't fear attacking face-downs like they used too.(probably because MoF and Cyber Jar are banned) I agree the defensive side of the game needs more support, but we really don't need to add another Gravity Bind to the game.

[Dr. Cakey]

{IMG]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081114035429/yugioh/images/3/37/LegendaryJujitsuMasterCP07-EN-SR-UE.png[/img]

 

People just don't fear attacking face-downs like they used too.(probably because MoF and Cyber Jar are banned) I agree the defensive side of the game needs more support' date=' but we [i']really[/i] don't need to add another Gravity Bind to the game.

 

You can never have too many Gravity Binds.

 

*thinks*

 

Hey, remember that one duel puzzle in WC10 where your opponent had a Skill Drain and FOUR Gravity Binds out? i was all like OMG and then i won so i was all like LOL

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Rock-Types

They have Koaki'Meiru Guardian and Sandman.

 

At the rate we are going' date=' Rock-Types can effectivly negate anything.

[/quote']

 

They also have swarm and insane beatstick going. Megarock, Gigantes, Gaia Plate, etc; etc;

Other than Gaia Plate, I can't think of many Rock-Types other than the ones already listed that are "beatsticks" which are easily accessible. (That might just be because I've been missing from the forums and the YGO world for a while, though)

Things like Gigantes are easily accessible ;)

Why do I have a feeling that, when I am speaking with you, you're not paying attention to what I say?

 

@Jord: Yeah, I saw that too. I like it. Only problem is... It wont stop "destroy Defense Position monster" effects.

[Canadian]

Stone statue of the Aztecs + All Out Attacks + Ojama Tokens.

 

Rocks are good, just not as good as some Decks.....yet.

[Chaos Flame]

ordeal of the traveler owns synchros. Especially if you manage your hand in such a way that your opponent almost always guesses wrong. Too bad you have to show the card...

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[align=center]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

[Aximil]

[align=center][Megarock picture]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

 

But this thing isn't even their attacker.

[Chaos Flame]

[align=center][Megarock picture]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

 

But this thing isn't even their attacker.

 

Its mainly gaia plate because he's easier to summon.

[Aximil]

[align=center][Megarock picture]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

 

But this thing isn't even their attacker.

 

Its mainly gaia plate because he's easier to summon.

 

And he cuts the stats (or is it just attack?) of whatever he fight in half.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

Oh... my bad. Forgot Gaia.

[Chaos Flame]

[align=center][Megarock picture]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

 

But this thing isn't even their attacker.

 

Its mainly gaia plate because he's easier to summon.

 

And he cuts the stats (or is it just attack?) of whatever he fight in half.

 

Megarock only surpasses gaia plate in that he has higher atk (generally) and doesn't have an upkeep cost.

[Aximil]

[align=center][Megarock picture]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

 

But this thing isn't even their attacker.

 

Its mainly gaia plate because he's easier to summon.

 

And he cuts the stats (or is it just attack?) of whatever he fight in half.

 

Megarock only surpasses gaia plate in that he has higher atk (generally) and doesn't have an upkeep cost.

 

In order to kill Gaia Plate through battle, you'll need to have something with 5650 ATK or higher. Sure, Megarock doesn't have an upkeep, but you need to remove far more monsters to get to that high.

[werewolfjedi]

[align=center][Megarock picture]

They have the attacker.

Their defenses are high and I believe they are playable-though not really a meta.[/align]

 

But this thing isn't even their attacker.

 

Its mainly gaia plate because he's easier to summon.

 

And he cuts the stats (or is it just attack?) of whatever he fight in half.

 

Megarock only surpasses gaia plate in that he has higher atk (generally) and doesn't have an upkeep cost.

 

In order to kill Gaia Plate through battle' date=' you'll need to have something with 5650 ATK or higher. Sure, Megarock doesn't have an upkeep, but you need to remove far more monsters to get to that high.

[/quote']

 

which is why I have kill spells. when you can't run something over, you have to flip it bounce it spin it etc. etc. (if I only had a few more, then it could have been a nice beat.)