Kyosuke Kiryu Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 We all know what these guys do. Where should they be on the list? I say ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why? They're broken. Don't tell me you don't want to ban JD because he isn't the top deck anymore. Don't tell me that Gyzarus shouldn't be banned because GBs aren't played as much as that Quickdraw crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why? They're broken. How? I don't want to ban JD because with it banned there's no point in the lightsworn archetype existing. I don't want gyzarus banned because as long as you play smart you don't get wrecked out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Limiting wouldnt do a thing because you usually only run one, so only way to affect them is ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why? They're broken. How? I don't want to ban JD because with it banned there's no point in the lightsworn archetype existing. I don't want gyzarus banned because as long as you play smart you don't get wrecked out of nowhere. The whole Lightsworn archtype is based on lucksack milling their way to victory. You can't say a card shouldn't be banned becausxe the archtype is no longer bad for the game without it. Chimeratech Fortress has the capability to -5 your opponent and then poke for 5k minimum. Chimeratech Overdragon is a walking OTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yeah but with CO(d), you have to draw 2 limited cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Yeah but with CO(d)' date=' you have to draw 2 limited cards.[/quote']And with JD you have to have 4 Lightsworns with different names in the graveyard, some cost amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 JD is way easier to summon. EDIT: And better effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 The whole Lightsworn archtype is based on lucksack milling their way to victory. No its not You can't say a card shouldn't be banned becausxe the archtype is no longer bad for the game without it. Never said that. Lightsworn's never been bad for the game Chimeratech Fortress has the capability to -5 your opponent and then poke for 5k minimum. So suddenly having a card that punshies overextension and rewards conserving card advantage is bad... Chimeratech Overdragon is a walking OTK. So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyfi Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Overdragon should be banned. Fortress maybe at 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosuke Kiryu Posted May 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 The whole Lightsworn archtype is based on lucksack milling their way to victory. No its not You can't say a card shouldn't be banned becausxe the archtype is no longer bad for the game without it. Never said that. Lightsworn's never been bad for the game Chimeratech Fortress has the capability to -5 your opponent and then poke for 5k minimum. So suddenly having a card that punshies overextension and rewards conserving card advantage is bad... Chimeratech Overdragon is a walking OTK. So? It is based on milling luckily and drawing cards well to win, if they mill double jd and beckonings, they'll probably not fare aswell. Lightsworn were bad for the game, they forced many people to run a horribly designed archtype because they thought it was the best way to win. It's still a bad card for the game Fraz, if it was able to only fusion summon from your side of the field I would have less of a problem, I mean, you don't even have to control CyDra or a Machine to summon it. And yeah, walking OTKs are generally bad the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why Ban them? They're so horrible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why Ban them? They're so horrible...You are stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wero-vasto Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Why Ban them? They're so horrible...You are stupid I know, but still they don't deserve to be in the list =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 I once topdecked Cydra and stole a field full of Gadgets for Fortress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 It is based on milling luckily and drawing cards well to win' date=' if they mill double jd and beckonings, they'll probably not fare aswell. [b']So is every deck. If I draw 5 gadgets in my opening hand I probably won't win. If I draw no glad beast monsters I probably won't win. Saying that a deck is better with better hands is a bit redundant[/b] Lightsworn were bad for the game, they forced many people to run a horribly designed archtype because they thought it was the best way to win. Nobody forced them to play lightsworn, and its only ever been the best deck when the other best decks have been neutered. It's still a bad card for the game Fraz, if it was able to only fusion summon from your side of the field I would have less of a problem, I mean, you don't even have to control CyDra or a Machine to summon it.And if someone is stupid enough to leave cydra and a machine out while this card exists they deserve to lose. And yeah, walking OTKs are generally bad the game. They're really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.dek Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 It's still a bad card for the game Fraz' date=' if it was able to only fusion summon from your side of the field I would have less of a problem, I mean, you don't even have to control CyDra or a Machine to summon it.[b']And if someone is stupid enough to leave cydra and a machine out while this card exists they deserve to lose.[/b] And yeah, walking OTKs are generally bad the game. They're really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Armed_Zombie Posted May 7, 2010 Report Share Posted May 7, 2010 Since when have LS been horrible without JD? They only thing they lose is an instant win :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 We all know what these guys do. Where should they be on the list? I say ban. WE ALL KNOW WHAT CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON DOES WHERE SHOULD IT BE ON THE LIST? I SAY BAN The whole Lightsworn archtype is based on lucksack milling their way to victory. No its not I liked this. This's how pros debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I always liked Fortress. Granted, it makes machine decks afraid, even if they themselves use it. Just today I faced someone who was running Morphotronics. He quickly summoned a few of them (using Celfon) on the first turn. I then wiped out his field and had a 4000 ATK Fortress. The sad part is, in the following duel, almost the exact same thing happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 "Walking OTK's are bad for the game." Trident Dragon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 I always liked Fortress. Granted' date=' it makes machine decks afraid, even if they themselves use it. Just today I faced someone who was running Morphotronics. He quickly summoned a few of them (using Celfon) on the first turn. I then wiped out his field and had a 4000 ATK Fortress. The sad part is, in the following duel, almost the exact same thing happened.[/quote'] This is exactly the issue. Some decks NEED to fill their field to do anything, and it doesn't necessarily mean overextending. For example, my Morphs need to fill the field with Morphs to win. Further, I have summoned 4 Synchro monsters before my opponent's first turn while finishing off with 4 cards left in hand, which is field-filling and set-up, but not really overextension. All of these would be ruined if one used a mass type-killer that requires no real deckspace dedication. CyDra can be used for almost anything in the deckbuild, but it will always double as a type killer if you put Fortress Dragon in your Extra Deck. -3ing your opponents and getting a large beater in return as no cost/almost no cost is broken no matter how you look at it. I'll continue to feel that way until every major type has something like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 "Walking OTK's are bad for the game." Trident Dragon. Your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankee Posted May 8, 2010 Report Share Posted May 8, 2010 "Walking OTK's are bad for the game." Trident Dragon. Your point? Trident is a walking OTK. Nobody thinks he's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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