Since when did LS become bad without JD?

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

I've seen plenty of people make the statement "you can't ban JD because then LS would suck" or along those same lines. My question is, when did the LS stop having other great cards such as Celesita, Wulf, Garoth, and Lumina? Seriously, the one thing LS loses is their broken instawin that gave them meta status, but even without that they could probably be a good (but low) tier 2 deck if not really high tier 3. Oh no, we lose a broken card that, once banned, will probably cause other problem cards to recieve the justice they deserve.

 

How will we ever survive?!

[-Griffin]

Add to list of really nice cards Ryko and Charge, both are awesome =/

I think they're fine without JD, you're just a fool not to use it while it's an option.

[Fraz]

The logic isn't that if JD is banned that the archetype becomes bad, its that without JD there's no reason for the deck to be using the mill mechanic.

[Canadian]

Basically, even without JD, they have proven to make this true:

 

= Decent.

 

Theres way to many to list.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

The logic isn't that if JD is banned that the archetype becomes bad' date=' its that without JD there's no reason for the deck to be using the mill mechanic.

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Well there's no reason for arcanas to coinflip... but there you go.

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Ban Wulf. LS is now a bit fairer.

 

Celestia still exists at 3, so LS are fine.

 

Dont know why people keep whining that JD is broke beyond belief, i've seen Konami do worse.

[El Majishan]

Cuz JD is pretty much a top deck for the win even if you are getting you ass handed to you

[White Void]

The logic isn't that if JD is banned that the archetype becomes bad' date=' its that without JD there's no reason for the deck to be using the mill mechanic.

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Ultimately this, without Judgment Dragon it's not that Lightsworn suck...it's just they lack any clear objective to their theme. They still perform decently it's just more of a...why bother if they're lacking any sort of major game-ender and/or boss. If they were more of a control archetype it'd be different but they're not so...yeah.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

LS have always had their most legit use as an engine, not a decktype.

[Manjoume Thunder]

Unlimit Charge, Necro and Honest and I won't even care for JD. :P

[Sephiroth_The_Legend]

Unlimit Charge' date=' Necro and Honest and I won't even care for JD. :P

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i must agree.

They ruined all my playsets.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

Lightsworn - Wulf - JD - The very dishonest birdman= Balanced

 

Owaitsephirothreadmymind

[Azuh]

Well there's no reason for arcanas to coinflip... but there you go.

 

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[daboss144]

Ehren aint gettin no respect in this topic.

[Dark_Armed_Zombie]

The logic isn't that if JD is banned that the archetype becomes bad' date=' its that without JD there's no reason for the deck to be using the mill mechanic.

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Ultimately this, without Judgment Dragon it's not that Lightsworn suck...it's just they lack any clear objective to their theme. They still perform decently it's just more of a...why bother if they're lacking any sort of major game-ender and/or boss. If they were more of a control archetype it'd be different but they're not so...yeah.

 

Because milling never speeds up a deck... besides, JD is too much of a problem to let live anyway. I don't care if they aren't as much of as they used to be with Lumina, CotLB, and Necro Limited, they still have an OP boss monster :?

 

As mentioned in other posts, LS would still make a viable engine for plenty of decks, just like D-Heroes make a great engine for most decks and an ok deck type themselves, are people complaining that they don't make their own deck?

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"If a theme deck needs a bannable card in order to survive' date=' that theme deck deserves to die." - A hundred different people at a hundred places in time.

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[Red_Gengar]

= Decent.

 

Haven't heard of Gladsworn, have you?

 

OT: They do kinda lose purpose without JD, except for as an engine.