Grammar Keywords?

[Cloister]

Im talking for everything. Not just Charge. it was an example.

 

I know, we posted at the same time, and you beat me. I was talking to Icy.

[Gaia Overload]

Oh. lol.

[Guest JoshIcy]

So it's enough difference to make a whole new ruling for 1 situation but not for another?

 

Oh well.

 

Can you word that better?

[Gaia Overload]

What about things like "Remove from play X ----Type monster from play in your Graveyard, rest of effect." Like MegaRock Dragon, how would we short that?

[Umbra]

Now this is beginning to end up like Magic the Gathering' date=' Like Umbra is doing "Charge" is like a name of an effect, where as Magic the Gathering does the same thing like "Devour" sometimes it states the effect after it, but usually a card effect is just 2 or 3 words. We can't end up having yugioh card effects being "Once per turn Charge." that's it. Or entirely just "Dice". Like we can't have shortages to 1 word. it should be just a shorter sentence.

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CHARGE(Y, X): {Condition}

 

Exemplar's first effect:

CHARGE(Spell Counter, 2): When a Spell Card is activated.

 

Something like that, then? Adds more variety.

 

If that (condition) is added to Charge it should be added to all the other rulings as well. Otherwise using them wouldn't be enough flexible, instead TOO situational.

 

If a monster is targeted by a card effect, you would have to write out the whole return this to the deck and blahblahblah instead of just Switch.

 

It would make sense to have it on Switch and Cast, at least. Aura is already a condition in itself.

 

{Condition},CAST(X,Y):

{Condition},SWITCH:

 

Exemplar again, second effect:

Once per turn, CAST(Spell Counter, X): Special Summon 1 Level X Spellcaster-type monster from your hand or Graveyard.

 

Gladiator Beast Dimacari:

At the end of the Battle Phase, if this card battled, SWITCH: 1 "Gladiator Beast" monster, except "Gladiator Beast Dimacari".

[:ABC:]

i like umbra's, but im also hoping not to many people will want to use this, because as stated before, if we go to faar with this and to many people like it YCMaker will have to become MTGamer, it really will become magic like this, and also for gemini monsters wouldn't it be good enough just to have GEMINI in the type box?

[seattleite]

How about:

 

Special Summon from your Grave : Revive

 

Special Summon from any grave: Resurrect

 

Ex: Zombie Master : Once per turn, you can discard 1 monster card to [Resurrect Zombie].

 

And for Monsters which can't attack if you use the effect, just say Tap:

 

Volcanic Slicer : Tap: Inflict 500 damage

[wero-vasto]

i like umbra's' date=' but im also hoping not to many people will want to use this, because as stated before, if we go to faar with this and to many people like it YCMaker will have to become MTGamer, it really will become magic like this, and also for gemini monsters wouldn't it be good enough just to have GEMINI in the type box?

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It would be to short the long texts <_<

of course if you want to write all you can :/

[Cloister]

SWITCH: X [Monster], except [Card Name]. = If this card battles, by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon X [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

 

That only applies when a monster battles and is able to return itself to the Deck and SS another monster to take its place.

 

But if a monster is targeted by an effect, the effect cannot be written When this card is targeted by an effect, Switch X [Monster], except [Card Name].

 

So I guess it must be worded like this:

When this card is targeted by an effect, by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon X [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

 

You see?

 

When this card is targeted by an effect, by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon X [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

 

compared to

 

Switch X [Monster], except [Card Name]

 

Pretty big difference in my own oppinion.

 

I am suggesting using Switch instead of by returning it from the field to the Deck at the end of the Battle Phase, Special Summon X [monster] from your Deck, except [Card Name].

 

Hope my message got to you.

[Umbra]

SWITCH, as in this post, is more like this:

 

"Return this card to your Deck and Special Summon 1". The rest lies in the condition.

[Cloister]

Yes. That is what I think Switch should 'represent'.

[Shinobi Phoenix]

What about things like "Remove from play X ----Type monster from play in your Graveyard' date=' rest of effect." Like MegaRock Dragon, how would we short that?

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Unless someone can think of an eating term with a more positive connotation (everyone is so sensitive these days or just likes to complain, you care less when you're older), I would go with "Consume".

 

 

Dark Armed Dragon:

"This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having exactly 3 DARK monsters in your Graveyard. You can remove from play 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard to destroy 1 card on the field."

 

REVISED Dark Armed Dragon:

This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except by having exactly 3 DARK monsters in your Graveyard. CONSUME (1 DARK): Destroy 1 card."

 

 

Do remember though, regardless of the card, we are essentially talking about something eating souls in a Graveyard. Consume is about as PC as you get since humans are already consumers themselves and "consume" is the most clinical term you can use.

 

Of course, would you have to use a different term for a card that eats monsters from any Graveyard or make some additions to the text.

 

"CONSUME 1 (DARK, Owner):"

"CONSUME 1 (DARK, Opp):"

"CONSUME 1 (DARK, Any):"

 

Maybe that that way?

 

Gaia Plate the Earth Giant:

You can Special Summon this card by removing from play any 2 Rock-Type monsters in your Graveyard. During your Standby Phase, remove from play 1 Rock-Type monster in your Graveyard, or send this card to the Graveyard. Halve the ATK and DEF of any monster that battles with this card.

 

REVISED:

CONSUME: 2 (Rock-Type, Owner): You may Special Summon this card from your hand. During your Standby Phase, CONSUME: 1 (Rock-Type, Owner) or send this card to the Graveyard. Halve the ATK and DEF of any monster that battles with this card.

 

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Incidentally:

 

Looking up eat on Webster's Thesaurus you get:

 

Synonyms consume, ingest

Related Words digest, down, mouth (down), swallow; bolt, devour, gobble (up or down), gorge, gulp, wolf; chew, gnaw (at or on), lap, lick, nibble (on); relish, savor, taste; banquet, dine, feast, gormandize, pig out; dispatch, polish off; breakfast, lunch, sup; munch, snack

2 to consume or wear away gradually

Synonyms bite (at), corrode, erode, fret

Related Words break down, break up, decompose, disintegrate, dissolve; destroy, ruin, wreck

3 to take a meal

[Gaia Overload]

I'm sure this is good, ideas and all, but should only be used when there is not enought room for text.

[~Oleon~]

The fact that this actually screws the Realistic in Realistic Cards, and that most people wouldn't understand this, you have single handedly screwed the OCG and TCG terms on this site.

[J-Max]

The fact that this actually screws the Realistic in Realistic Cards' date=' and that most people wouldn't understand this, you have single handedly screwed the OCG and TCG terms on this site.

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Exactly what I was trying to explain. This is almost as bad as "destroyed in battle" being replaced with "killed"

[:ABC:]

good point, well ima not going to help any more for the fact that i really do want to keep it realistic, and it is to much work to get enough people to read this.

[Guest JoshIcy]

The fact that this actually screws the Realistic in Realistic Cards' date=' and that most people wouldn't understand this, you have single handedly screwed the OCG and TCG terms on this site.

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Exactly what I was trying to explain. This is almost as bad as "destroyed in battle" being replaced with "killed"

 

In that case, choosing a Keyword would be utterly ridiculous. This idea exists solely for the purpose of card effects that would drastically cause the cards effect to squish on the cardmaker. You are taking it out of context.

[kemren_18]

for me, its a good idea to have a shortcut for the effects...it would be so helpful for the newbies to cope with it especially me..there are so many long effects also that needs to be shortened like the ones that was tackled.It will be a hard job for the producers to choose for the best card to reproduce..well this is just some sort of suggestions anyway.

[Parting Shot]

No.

 

YGO =/= MtG

 

Sure, it may have started as a crappy spin-off, but it has since made itself a wholly different game with a unique style and meta-game. Shortening to keywords, even just for clarity's sake, will return to the "OMG it's a MtG knockoff" ideas of the early years of YGO and it really will just be a crappy spin-off.

 

Despite the apparent hatred of OCG, it IS an important part of card-making, especially for the Realistic Cards section. Any n00b can cram a bunch of keywords into an effect and call it a "card", the real skill of card-making is creating something unique and creative.

 

Besides, if your effect is coming out squishy and unreadable, you probably are trying to cram too much onto your card. Split the effect and make 2 cards, double the reward for your huge inspiration :P.

[Guest JoshIcy]

@Azrael: Talking it out on MSN xD

[xzMasteRzx]

OBJECTION!!!! We should not stoop down to the level of inexperienced OCG Yugioh! creators. To allow this means to allow all and any abbreviation in any and all cards made in this site, which is unacceptable and ruins the Realistic versions of Yugioh! Cards. Noobs, including myself, should look up and learn the correct way to write effects instead of creating a new, inaccurate way to mess up Yugioh! cards.

[Guest JoshIcy]

One who speaks about Grammar being official, misused a great insult in his own explanation. How can we take you seriously if you do not understand the context of the words you express?

 

Ooh, and if you bothered to read at all. There is 2 Keywords in YGO, FLIP and the one expressed in the first post. These Keywords we are trying to make, would not interfere with the overall effect (thats why it requires planning, discussions, and PROPER ruling explanations). Before you say no, understand that a person would not be allowed more than 1 keyword in a card, they would HAVE to be at the start and if we choose to create Sentence Abbreviations they would be pretty formal and only save half the actual space.

 

You are not learning wrongly, in fact based on the structure of learning these abbreviations you'd actually LEARN MORE!

[Gaia Overload]

But what MOST of us are trying to say is Don't just have Keywords for the entire effect, you should only use if not enough room for real effect.

[Guest JoshIcy]

But what MOST of us are trying to say is Don't just have Keywords for the entire effect' date=' you should only use if not enough room for real effect.

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We already know the CardMaker has some serious text squishing issues. And if any of you are familiar with Magic The Gathering' date=' they often use shortcuts like above to prevent a card from being cluttered and messy.

 

Congratulations, YCM cannot read.

[wero-vasto]

But what MOST of us are trying to say is Don't just have Keywords for the entire effect' date=' you should only use if not enough room for real effect.

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We already know the CardMaker has some serious text squishing issues. And if any of you are familiar with Magic The Gathering' date=' they often use shortcuts like above to prevent a card from being cluttered and messy.

 

Congratulations, YCM cannot read.

 

 

Before you say no' date=' understand that a person would not be allowed more than 1 keyword in a card, they would HAVE to be at the start and if we choose to create Sentence Abbreviations they would be pretty formal and only save half the actual space.

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and that too...