NeriesUmbra Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 [align=center]What do you think any suggestions to make this better. effect This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned while you have at least 5 cards in your Graveyard. When this card is Special Summoned add your Graveyard to your hand then take damage equal to the number of cards added to your hand from your Graveyard by this cards effect x 400. When this card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard discard your entire hand then draw one card. Pic form UnforgivenSoul[/align] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaToxic Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Way 2 OP. Easy to Special Summon it, high atk power...What else to sayThe pic is nice Illidan ftw :Drating: 3/10 <--- +3 cuz of the pic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighteronspeed Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Brutal!! reminds me of my other sister. completely relentless and undeniably requestrian. a little OP but the cost seems to make it well balanced. due to the OP nature of this card i can only give a 9/10 but good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIKTAK Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I has a question.....what exactly does OP mean? oh and did u draw that o=O it looks awesome !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 It's not compleatly Op since it dose a hell of allot of damage to your self and if the opponent has a black horn of heaven when you summon this card you may just have killed your self.And if it is OP please tell me how to make it not be OP I was thinking about 2900 ATK but who the hell would summon it with that kind of cost and risk.I has a question.....what exactly does OP mean? oh and did u draw that o=O it looks awesome !!! OP = Over Poweredand no Unforgiven soul made it but I don't think he drew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahmmed6 Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 i find it balanced, if you have multiple cards in your graveyard, your life points screwed. 7/10 =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allynpop Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I think it's balanced as well. Its got a pretty high ATK and DEF, but with a relentless drawback that will make you think twice before summoning it. Not too Over-Powered. Maybe lower the ATK and DEF by 300 or more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 It's quite OP'ed, but I still like it. I mean, in Lightsworn decks this card would be total hell for your opponent. Still, I love the idea, so I'll give you a 9/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 It's not compleatly Op since it dose a hell of allot of damage to your self and if the opponent has a black horn of heaven when you summon this card you may just have killed your self. No. I believe "Black Horn of Heaven" and similar cards negate the Summon, so the effect doesn't get the chance of being activated. And this card is OP'ed. Not only it has huge ATK while it can be summoned easily, but it also generates huge card advantage by returning your Graveyard to your hand, (allowing you to recover a maximum of 19 cards at full LP). This card will let you recycle powerful cards such as "Heavy Storm" and other limited cards easily, increasing your chances of performing an OTK. And when you are going for an OTK, it won't matter how much damage you inflict to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Ye it negates the summon but the conditions of the summon are a cost so theye hapen before black horn. And the effect dose not say that the card has to be destroyed while on the filed so that effect still takes place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 The cost is having the 5 cards in the Grave, not returning the grave to the hand. This last happens when the monster is successfully summoned, which is what Black Horn negates so.. no grave recovery occurs. But you have a point (kind of): the last effect would activate, forcing you to discard your hand and to draw a card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 lol I really did mess up the OCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 I find it horribly overpowered. Its a 3000 ATK monster that is Special Summoned by having 5+ card in the Graveyard with no other cost or conditions. It adds your ENTIRE Graveyard to your hand. 400 per card is not a big burn to get when you at the very least DOUBLE the options in your hand (which is enough to pretty much win in my opinion).If you take a similar card from the real game for example "The Dark Creator". The Dark Creator is powerful enough but lets see: -The Dark Creator has 2300 ATK. Your monster has 3000 -The Dark Creator can only be Special Summoned IF you have at least 5 DARK monsters in your Graveyard AND you control no monsters. Your card only needs at least ANY 5 cards and nothing else. -The Dark Creator is written in a way where you CANNOT Special Summon it back, even if it was properly Summoned first. Your card CAN be reborn afterwards if destroyed. -The Dark Creator needs you to ONCE per turn, REMOVE 1 DARK monster to Special Summon only 1 DARK monster from your Graveyard. Your card will get you all the Graveyard regardless of what card is what to your hand instantly for damage that you really shouldn't care about unless its going to be bigger than your current Life (but it usually won't be the case). Even if you worry about the damage, you could just give it to your opponent with cards like "Spell of Pain" or "Barrel Behind the Door" (you could even activate a lot of effects that bump cards to the Graveyard fast like "Card Destruction" "Toon Table of Contents" or some "Lightsworn" cards, just to make the damage bigger and your future hand bigger. Your monster might have 1 (and only 1) drawback. The discarding of your hand. But even that is not enough as you could always have -very little hand (putting as much as you can on the field beforehand)-No hand, in which case you won't even care about it and you'll even draw 1 afterwards-Have monsters like "Necro Gardna" "Dark Worlds" or " Demon Roar Dieties" that will either benefit from being in the Graveyard, or have some nice effect when discarded. You can even loop copies of it, if your opponent is able to negate the Summon of 1 copy, you'll just get the second one which with its effect will return the first one to your hand. Enough of the "I think its OverPowered" statement, I'll suggets some stuff now.. I suggest instead of getting your Graveyard back to your hand, just choose 1 card from it (and it would still be debatable). Put a bigger condition than just 5 of anything, something like 5 monsters or 5 traps at least, and I can't right now think of anything else but something will eventually come up. I like the idea, but its made in an overpowered way at the moment ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 Thank you for that advice and long long long opinion you make a very good point which is what I was looking for I really want to make this card work so guess I'll call this a work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIKTAK Posted June 19, 2010 Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 m y c a r d! hey do you think this is okay for my first card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2010 OCG compleatly off but idea is good pic not bad but you will get a rateing when you post it in your own thread just incase you did not know it is against the rules to post cards on other peoples threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fighteronspeed Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 is it normal to post cards on other peoples thread? nice card idea like Neries Said OCG is off on a tangent. ne way Neries are you going to add more cards to this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeriesUmbra Posted June 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 yes I will just need to make this one a lil better since it took me about a min to come up with, I don't put that much effort into the first draft. Anyway anyone have any more sugestions on how to improve this before I change it cus so far sleepy is the only one to lend a hand instead of telling me what I already know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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