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I've been arguing with a guy over staples, and draw power. He posted a deck, and has been continually arguing with people. He says he has even beat BW's with his burn deck (Not Simochi), because of "strategy."

To keep things short here, I'm very annoyed, as he refuses to listen. He's actually claiming we (I) am narrow minded.

 

TCG, discuss staples, and draw power, and their importance in the meta and a deck's ability.

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no deck is prefect and i'm guessing this person has not meant Prime material Dragon or any other anti-burn cards :/.

and 1 other thing WHAT STRATEGY all you do is play cards to inflict card effect damage seriously

 

As for staples they vary from deck to deck but they are help out in the long run

 

Heavy storm:always helpful unless you are dependent on continous traps or opponent Starlight roads you

MST: safer option than heavy storm and still useful

BTH: of course you want this to stop you opponent from getting annoying cards with 1500+ ATK

-insert all other staples here-

 

Draw power: helpful and speeds of the duel but not all decks really need it(i've ran some decks with some draw power but not much and did pretty good) like infernity does not need that much draw power because of the archfiend + launcher combo.

 

basically the draw power and staples you need depends on your deck and if you want to keep your opponent's cards off your back

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I've been arguing with a guy over staples' date=' and draw power. He posted a deck, and has been continually arguing with people. He says he has even beat BW's with his burn deck (Not Simochi), because of "strategy."

To keep things short here, I'm very annoyed, as he refuses to listen. He's actually claiming we are narrow minded.

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Did he also talk about beating a "dragon/fusion/swarm/beatdown" deck and taking second in his LOCAL tournament?

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I've been arguing with a guy over staples' date=' and draw power. He posted a deck, and has been continually arguing with people. He says he has even beat BW's with his burn deck (Not Simochi), because of "strategy."

To keep things short here, I'm very annoyed, as he refuses to listen. He's actually claiming we are narrow minded.

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Did he also talk about beating a "dragon/fusion/swarm/beatdown" deck and taking second in his LOCAL tournament?

 

No, but if that's the case, his BW victory...brings a bad name to all BW players.

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I've been arguing with a guy over staples' date=' and draw power. He posted a deck, and has been continually arguing with people. He says he has even beat BW's with his burn deck (Not Simochi), because of "strategy."

To keep things short here, I'm very annoyed, as he refuses to listen. He's actually claiming we are narrow minded.

[/quote']

 

Did he also talk about beating a "dragon/fusion/swarm/beatdown" deck and taking second in his LOCAL tournament?

 

No, but if that's the case, his BW victory...brings a bad name to all BW players.

 

Did his arguements go something like:

 

I am only trying to help you...the fact of the matter is that i know exactly what i am doing by opening my mind to every possible combination available instead of adding in whatever "new thing" that is coming out these days because i am one of the few people that is left from my generation that invent such combos.The fact of the matter is about my deck that i would have never entered it in a tournament if i wasn't serious.I was never saying that i am better than anybody because i am only trying to teach this person everything i know instead of following run of the mill staple decks that people normally splash together.You underestimate what my deck can do just like the person i whipped in my last tournament that ran a "dragon/fusion swarm/beatdown" deck and nobody was more shocked than i was that i got two out of three wins when the battle was over......

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I've been arguing with a guy over staples' date=' and draw power. He posted a deck, and has been continually arguing with people. He says he has even beat BW's with his burn deck (Not Simochi), because of "strategy."

To keep things short here, I'm very annoyed, as he refuses to listen. He's actually claiming we are narrow minded.

[/quote']

 

Did he also talk about beating a "dragon/fusion/swarm/beatdown" deck and taking second in his LOCAL tournament?

 

No, but if that's the case, his BW victory...brings a bad name to all BW players.

 

Did his arguements go something like:

 

I am only trying to help you...the fact of the matter is that i know exactly what i am doing by opening my mind to every possible combination available instead of adding in whatever "new thing" that is coming out these days because i am one of the few people that is left from my generation that invent such combos.The fact of the matter is about my deck that i would have never entered it in a tournament if i wasn't serious.I was never saying that i am better than anybody because i am only trying to teach this person everything i know instead of following run of the mill staple decks that people normally splash together.You underestimate what my deck can do just like the person i whipped in my last tournament that ran a "dragon/fusion swarm/beatdown" deck and nobody was more shocked than i was that i got two out of three wins when the battle was over......

 

Yes.

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What is it with noobs and thei 'combinations'?

 

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I know a kid that thinks his deck is the best because he has all 5 pieces of Exodia in it. When he loses to me, he says he is letting me, to "see my potential," and constantly says, "You're not quite there it..."

He has tried to fuse two monsters to create Chaos Clayman before.

The judge said he couldn't, finally, only because he didn't have the card, not because there is no such card, or the fact that he had no monsters on the field/hand to fuse.

He cheated with a guy in a tournament, and "topdecked" Exodia. The guy laughed, and let him have the win. Then proceeded to shuffle this kid's deck himself. Two duels in a row.

2 - 1, the nice guy

 

I hate noobs who think their ideas are best, and won't listen to advice.

This same kid keeps his entire deck, even while dueling, in his deck box, so the other guy can't touch them. Even if the opponent is suppose to be allowed to touch the deck, he won't let the opponent.

When you try to help this guy, he says "Stop! I have a strategy...I know what i'm doing"

 

I'm really trying to keep from RAEGing right now...

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What is it with noobs and thei 'combinations'?

 

..

 

I know a kid that thinks his deck is the best because he has all 5 pieces of Exodia in it. When he loses to me' date=' he says he is letting me, to "see my potential," and constantly says, "You're not quite there it..."

He has tried to fuse two monsters to create Chaos Clayman before.

The judge said he couldn't, finally, only because he didn't have the card, not because there is no such card, or the fact that he had no monsters on the field/hand to fuse.

He cheated with a guy in a tournament, and "topdecked" Exodia. The guy laughed, and let him have the win. Then proceeded to shuffle this kid's deck himself. Two duels in a row.

2 - 1, the nice guy

 

I hate noobs who think their ideas are best, and won't listen to advice.

This same kid keeps his entire deck, even while dueling, in his deck box, so the other guy can't touch them. Even if the opponent is suppose to be allowed to touch the deck, he won't let the opponent.

When you try to help this guy, he says "Stop! I have a strategy...I know what i'm doing"

 

I'm really trying to keep from RAEGing right now...

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Lust, if you need to RAEG, I'm here for you.

 

Staples are needed, unless you're running something that requires many of its support, AKA, Spirits, Aliens. :/

 

Those two should really be the only exception on not having them.

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What is it with noobs and thei 'combinations'?

 

..

 

I know a kid that thinks his deck is the best because he has all 5 pieces of Exodia in it. When he loses to me' date=' he says he is letting me, to "see my potential," and constantly says, "You're not quite there it..."

He has tried to fuse two monsters to create Chaos Clayman before.

The judge said he couldn't, finally, only because he didn't have the card, not because there is no such card, or the fact that he had no monsters on the field/hand to fuse.

He cheated with a guy in a tournament, and "topdecked" Exodia. The guy laughed, and let him have the win. Then proceeded to shuffle this kid's deck himself. Two duels in a row.

2 - 1, the nice guy

 

I hate noobs who think their ideas are best, and won't listen to advice.

This same kid keeps his entire deck, even while dueling, in his deck box, so the other guy can't touch them. Even if the opponent is suppose to be allowed to touch the deck, he won't let the opponent.

When you try to help this guy, he says "Stop! I have a strategy...I know what i'm doing"

 

I'm really trying to keep from RAEGing right now...

[/quote']

 

Lust, if you need to RAEG, I'm here for you.

 

Staples are needed, unless you're running something that requires many of its support, AKA, Spirits, Aliens. :/

 

Those two should really be the only exception on not having them.

 

 

Hate...Noobs...>_>

 

Or if you run FTK decks...

 

I DID make an Exodia FTK deck...for advanced format :D

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If he won't listen, why are you wasting your time? lt's like taking the blind on a field trip to see the fireworks. Pointless and time consuming.

lf he won't listen, beat his ass until he he begs you to stop. And then keep doing it.

 

Anyway, staples are important. they BIND your deck together, lol

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Staples are staples for the reason that they're almost universally useful. It does depend on the deck, but I'll usually fit a Torrential and Mirror Force in every deck I build because they're that good. Even if I run an anti-trap deck, there's no reason not to run them, unless my deck is FTK oriented.

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I don't run Storm/Mirror/Torrential in a few Decks because I'm pushed for space anyway, and it's not worth pushing out some other card and increasing my chances of getting Starlight'd.

 

Also; Pot of Greed and Graceful are all that could be considered Staples. The closest with have at the moment are semi-staples/splashables. Plenty of Decks, like Empty Jar or some burn stuff, really don't want to waste space on that stuff.

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Staples are staples for the reason that they're almost universally useful. It does depend on the deck' date=' but I'll usually fit a Torrential and Mirror Force in every deck I build because they're that good. Even if I run an anti-trap deck, there's no reason not to run them, unless my deck is FTK oriented.

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Or if your deck (like the one I'm building at current) is running only Trap-negating Traps. But I still run Heavy, Brain Control, all of the Spell ones.

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