Machina Force

[Big Mac]

[img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100429014110/yugioh/images/a/ae/MachinaForceSDMM-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img]

[center]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except with "Commander Covington". This card cannot declare an attack unless you pay 1000 Life Points. You can send this card from the field to the Graveyard to select and Special Summon one each of "Machina Soldier", "Machina Sniper", and "Machina Defender" from your Graveyard.[/center]

Alot of people say you should run this in Machina gadgets, but Im not a fan. Seems like a waste of space to me. Thoughts?

[♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥]

[center][color="#9932CC"][b]I can tell that you don't know what it's used for =\.

Hint: Fortress[/b][/color][/center]

[Mysty]

Level 8+ for summoning Fortress. That's all he's good for. He's great at that job and worth at least two spots in Machina Gadgets from my experience, but summoning him is a nightmare that is almost impossible and not worth it in the end.

[BulletMan]

He's a Monster Reborn for Fortress. That is why he is used. And to get off Gearframe's effect when you have no other target to get him and be able to use LV to finish the game...yeah.

I only use 1.

Though I might replace it with AGGD.

[Big Mac]

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[center][color="#9932CC"][b]I can tell that you don't know what it's used for =\.

Hint: Fortress[/b][/color][/center]
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I know what its used for, Im just not a fan of it. Who says your going to have it in hand when you have a fortress & vice versa. It seems like most of the time it would just end up as a dead draw.

EDIT: I know you can search for it, but still. Im not a fan of teching 1 card for "just in case" situations.

[Toffee.]

Force's artwork is just beautiful.
The aspect of how its a combination of the machine parts used to make it, just adds to how badass the artwork is.

[wiithepeople]

Fodder. that's all it is and nothing more.

[burnpsy]

[quote name='Big Mac' timestamp='1282855658' post='4568604']
I know what its used for, Im just not a fan of it. Who says your going to have it in hand when you have a fortress & vice versa. It seems like most of the time it would just end up as a dead draw.

EDIT: I know you can search for it, but still. Im not a fan of teching 1 card for "just in case" situations.
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Discard it to summon Fortress from the Graveyard.

You'll most likely not dead draw with it because Fortress should be out fairly quickly with Gadgets and Gearframe.

[Dr. Cakey]

I was planning on making a topic for Force just to write its "real" effect:

[quote]You can discard this card to Special Summon 1 "Machina Fortress" from your hand or Graveyard.[/quote]

[Rose]

[quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1282858306' post='4568756']
Discard it to summon Fortress from the Graveyard.

You'll most likely not dead draw with it because Fortress should be out fairly quickly with Gadgets and Gearframe.
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Why i run 3. It works brilliantly.

[Brinolovania]

Fortress fodder. No other use.

[Just Crouton]

He became good when Fortress came out...like how Synchros made old cards playable.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Only good for being a searchable Monster Reborn or Ancient Rules for Machina Fortress. Otherwise it's trash.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

Crap effect.

Awesome art.

One of the victims of Konami logic.

If only it was something like this.

Effect:
[i]This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card can only be Special Summoned by discarding 3 "Machina" monsters from your hand. Any damage this card deals to your Opponent is halved. When this card is destroyed, add 1 "Machina" monster from your deck or graveyard to your hand.[/i]

[Manjoume Thunder]

This in the deck.
Fortress in the grave.
Gearframe in the hand.

That is 4300 damage. Add a limiter and you've got game.

[El-Rrey]

[quote name='Judgment Phoenix' timestamp='1282876572' post='4569924']
Only good for being a searchable Monster Reborn or Ancient Rules for Machina Fortress. Otherwise it's trash.
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[evilfusion]

If you ever successfully summon this, be sure to savor it. Because your opponent probably will use Bottomless, D-Prison, Mirror Force, Compulsory (lolz) or virtually any other of the plethora of removal cards in this meta.

Allegedly a Monster Reborn for Fortress. I've never tried it for the same reason. Not a fan.