Next World, and the Ignoring the Summoning Conditions rule

[Great Unclean One: VK]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Ignoring_the_Summoning_conditions

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Next_World

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[i]"Select 1 face-up monster your opponent controls. Special Summon 1 Spirit monster from your hand with a Level equal to the selected monster's, ignoring the Summoning conditions."[/i]

Discuss the "Ignoring the Summoning Conditions" thingy and how Next World, if printed, would help out Spirit monsters.

[Black W Mage]

I believe I mentioned this previously... If they made something like this similar to REDMD in dragon decks, then spirits might actually see some real competition. (mausoleum sucks)

[metalflygon08]

a little too dependant on the opponent, but don't spirits have a wide range of target levels?

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='metalflygon08' timestamp='1283746624' post='4605233']
a little too dependant on the opponent, but don't spirits have a wide range of target levels?
[/quote]

Yes.

Levels:

1 (Kinka)
2 (Yata)
3 (Otohime, Inaba)
4 (Asura, Susa, Tsukuyomi, Fushi No Tori, Ice Barrier Spirit)
5 (Great Long Nose)
6 (DDS, Yamato No Kami)
7 (Yamata)
8 (Hino)

[Black W Mage]

[quote name='General VK-Duelist/Shepard' timestamp='1283746814' post='4605242']
Yes.

Levels:

1 (Kinka)
2 (Yata)
3 (Otohime, Inaba)
4 (Asura, Susa, Tsukuyomi, Fushi No Tori, Ice Barrier Spirit)
5 (Great Long Nose)
6 (DDS, Yamato No Kami)
7 (Yamata)
8 (Hino)
[/quote]
who runs all those in one deck?

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[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1283746893' post='4605248']
who runs all those in one deck?
[/quote]

Run

[list]
[*]Asura
[*]Susa
[*]DDS
[*]Yamata
[*]Hino
[*]Yamato
[/list]

Run Great long Nose if only your going down for the lock.

Also,

Nii-sama,

Sorry, but in order to summon it, it must have the ignoring summoning conditions rule.

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[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Closest you'll ever get.[/b][/color][/center]

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥' timestamp='1283747110' post='4605255']
[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Closest you'll ever get.[/b][/color][/center]
[/quote]


Sadly enough, your right.

T_T

DAMMIT KONAMI, PRINT THIS AND MAKE IT A SECRET RARE!

[Black W Mage]

[quote name='General VK-Duelist/Shepard' timestamp='1283747200' post='4605259']
Sadly enough, your right.

T_T

DAMMIT KONAMI, PRINT THIS AND MAKE IT A SECRET RARE!
[/quote]
not competitive, some field spell that special summons a spirit once per turn?

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1283748675' post='4605330']
not competitive, some field spell that special summons a spirit once per turn?
[/quote]

That'll speed things up, but not enough.....

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[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Isn't there a card that prevents Spirit Monsters from returning to the hand?[/b][/color][/center]

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥' timestamp='1283806365' post='4607629']
[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Isn't there a card that prevents Spirit Monsters from returning to the hand?[/b][/color][/center]
[/quote]

Spirit Settling Machine, but it sucks.

Izanagi also does the job perfectly.

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[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Then run three Izanagi's.[/b][/color][/center]

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='♥ ЅϯᵲåώӀӞ℮ᴙʀɣ−ɴɨɨ−ƈħåɴ ♥' timestamp='1283806648' post='4607657']
[center][color="#9932CC"][b]Then run three Izanagi's.[/b][/color][/center]
[/quote]

I only have one......

But they still need something to summon more of them quicker.

Ultimate Offering, Double Summon, and the like works, but is not enough.

Trust me.....

[evilfusion]

And Mirror of Yata, if you're into Equip cards.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1283808368' post='4607804']
And Mirror of Yata, if you're into Equip cards.
[/quote]


Not only that, but it protects them from being destroyed by battle only once.

[Darkest Hour]

They just need to make better Spirit monsters.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='Darkest Hour' timestamp='1283816078' post='4608411']
They just need to make better Spirit monsters.
[/quote]

That, and give them something to make them more consistent.

[Toffee.]

Next World is... an odd card.

What would make Spirits interesting, is if they had a card along the lines of something like this:
[quote]
Spirit-related name
-Spell-
Select 1 Spirit monster in your hand to activate. During this turn, if you Normal Summon that monster, control of it is switched to your Opponent. At that time, draw 3 cards.[/quote]

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1283817790' post='4608545']
Next World is... an odd card.

What would make Spirits interesting, is if they had a card along the lines of something like this:
[/quote]

It's a Spirit Draw Engine then.

AWESOME!

Seriously, at the end phase, IT RETURNS TO YOU!

Inaba and Otohime would probably be used for it.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='General VK-Duelist/Shepard' timestamp='1283817899' post='4608553']
It's a Spirit Draw Engine then.

AWESOME!

Seriously, at the end phase, IT RETURNS TO YOU!

Inaba and Otohime would probably be used for it.
[/quote]
Play that Spell -> Draw 3 -> Flip copies of Mirror of Yata -> more card advantage.

[Great Unclean One: VK]

[quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1283818943' post='4608627']
Play that Spell -> Draw 3 -> [i]Flip copies of Mirror of Yata [/i]-> more card advantage.
[/quote]


Wait, how?

[Sleepy]

[quote name='General VK-Duelist/Shepard' timestamp='1283819328' post='4608659']
Wait, how?
[/quote]

I think he means, "Legacy of Yata-Garasu".

Anyways...

Field Spell:
Spirit Monsters require 1 less Tribute to Summon. Once per turn, you can Normal Summon 1 Spirit Monster from your hand in addition to your Normal Summon. If you do, place 1 Spirit Counter on it. When a monster with a Spirit Counter is removed from the field, return 1 monster your opponent controls to the hand. When this card is destroyed, Special Summon 1 Spirit Monster from your hand, ignoring the Summoning conditions. That monster does not have its effect activated of returning to the hand during the End Phase.