ULTIMATE SYNCHRO DOOM! [Machine Emporers]

[123hriwu3beofuf89383y]

When will they be released in the TCG?
Skiel:
[IMG]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100822234225/yugioh/images/thumb/d/db/MachineEmperorSkielInfinityVB13-JP-UR.jpg/400px-MachineEmperorSkielInfinityVB13-JP-UR.jpg[/IMG]
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up Monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn, you can equip 1 face-up Synchro Monster your opponent controls to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Synchro Monsters equipped to this card by its own effect. Other Monsters you control cannot declare an attack. Also, you can send 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card to the Graveyard. If you do, this card can attack your opponent directly this turn.

Wisel:
[IMG]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100823002354/yugioh/images/thumb/b/ba/MachineEmperorWiselInfinityWJMP-JP-UR.jpg/400px-MachineEmperorWiselInfinityWJMP-JP-UR.jpg[/IMG]
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. Once per turn, you can equip 1 face-up Synchro Monster your opponent controls to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Synchro Monsters equipped to this card by its own effect. Other monsters you control cannot declare an attack. Once per turn, you can negate the activation of an opponent's Spell Card and destroy it.


And the other one!
[IMG]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100823000812/yugioh/images/thumb/b/b8/MachineEmperorGrannelInfinityVJMP-JP-UR.jpg/400px-MachineEmperorGrannelInfinityVJMP-JP-UR.jpg[/IMG]
This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. This card cannot be Special Summoned except from your hand when a face-up monster you control is destroyed by a card effect and sent to the Graveyard. This card gains ATK and DEF equal to half of your Life Points. Once per turn, you can equip 1 face-up Synchro Monster your opponent controls to this card. This card gains ATK equal to the combined ATK of all Synchro Monsters equipped to this card by its own effect. Once per turn, during your Main Phase, you can select and Special Summon 1 Synchro Monster equipped to this card to your side of the field in face-up Defense Position.

Wow. long effects.
DISCUSS!

[.Nu-13]

We'll get them and Secret Rares in packs. Maybe even in STBL

Skiel is decent, and only late game. Otherwise, terrible
Wisel is awesome at any time
Grannel is awesome early game and good at any other time

[darkwolf777]

"The Other One" doesn't seem to have the "Other monsters you control cannot attack" clause. If that's not a mistake, It might be useful in Scraps, considering how Scraps and related cards like to destroy each other to get their effects.

Also, I think Wisel has the strongest printed ATK and DEF for a level 1 monster x.o;

[BDKMRV]

Sound hella broken.

[Buttercup]

Wisel is broken in Scraps.

[Lord Shade]

Hopefully at least Wisel will be released as a Sonen Jump promo, the others along with Wisel unfortunately are most likely to be secrets in upcoming packs. Wisel is absolutely broken in Scraps just read some of the rulings.

[spoiler=rulings]
Taken from http://duelingdays.blogspot.com/

Scrap Ruling 1: When Goblin dies to its own effect / Scrap Squall, you can take back the Scrap card and on chain SP Kikoutei. When resolving the chain, Kikoutei is summoned then you take back a Scrap card (Thereby does not allow opp to Bottomless your Kikoutei)

Scrap Ruling 2: When Scrap Dragon dies due to opponent (E.g. Mirror Force), you can sp another Scrap monster (Compulsory effect anyway) and on chain SP Kikoutei. Similarly when resolving, you SP Kikoutei then sp the Scrap (Thereby again, no Bottomless on Kikoutei but you can Bottomless the Scrap monster. If its Tidal Wave you win)
[/spoiler]

[Black W Mage]

playful possum lol

[Great Unclean One: VK]

Overtalked about and awesome cards are overtalked about.

[123hriwu3beofuf89383y]

Still, If they were Secrets, what price would they be and what wouold change with them? oh, and konami has admited there already going to be Limeted @1.

[Toffee.]

Grannel is badass.
[i]Especially[/i] early game, as it will almost always have about 4K ATK.

[evilfusion]

Truly evil cards. Everyone runs Synchro monsters, and even without Synchros, they're a force to be reckoned with. Even if they limit all 3 of them, you can still run one of each instead of 3 of one. They're limit-worthy, if not banworthy, on principle alone. That said, they're also amazing, and I'm impressed they didn't nerf them to hell.

Being level one is OPed from the start. Level Limit and Gravity Bind give you powerful monsters that have next to nil chance of being run over, and Wisel can stop Spells once per turn. Normally, monster levels give an indication of that monster's overall strength. Wisel's combined ATK and DEF is 5000 for a level 1 monster that is easily tossed out, negates spells once per turn for no cost, and can get stronger by absorbing up to 5 Synchro monsters, one at a time. The Machine Emperors make a mockery of the level system.

Grannel is just broken. Doesn't have the "only monster that can attack" clause and can STEAL Synchros and summon them to your own field. Wow. I summon Grannel, steal your Stardust, and have fun. Or Goyo. Or Brionac. Or...yeah...

Grannel is stupidly powerful, Skiel is kind of sucky, but I love the art and Skiel in general, and Wisel's my favorite in terms of use.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1284583458' post='4629827']
Even if they limit all 3
[/quote]
....How these are limit worthy, is beyond me.

[Manjoume Thunder]

[quote]....How these are limit worthy, is beyond me.[/quote]

Yeah. Even if you limit all 3 you can use 3 Machine Emperors. Of course it won't be as good as 3x Wisel or 2x Wisel + 1x Grannel, but it will still be broke.

Something like ban, ban, limit will do he job.

That is, of course, only if they become problematic.

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='Spider5667' timestamp='1284480234' post='4626539']
ULTIMATE SYNCHRO DOOM![/quote]
Such a very intelligent-sounding naming. Ultimate. Doom. Yeah, you have knowledge of extremely specific adjectives and nouns that give off threatening auras! Wonderful job! Your brain amuses me everyday.

OT: Broken in Scraps. I mean, those and these Machine Emperors are like brothers. My friend made a Scrap with this... it was horrifying.

[YamiMario]

It would be cooler if we had them in parts.

Harder to run, sure, but still, it would be awesome.

[Azuh]

[quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1284641076' post='4631367']
Yeah. Even if you limit all 3 you can use 3 Machine Emperors. Of course it won't be as good as 3x Wisel or 2x Wisel + 1x Grannel, but it will still be broke.

Something like ban, ban, limit will do he job.

That is, of course, only if they become problematic.
[/quote]

Skiel would st[i]eal[/i] be unlimited (u c wut I did thar?) >_> Its effect isn't that problematic

Wisel and Grannel would be ones to hit the list first, with Grannel being either Limited or Banzors

[123hriwu3beofuf89383y]

[quote name='=The End Gamer=' timestamp='1284641446' post='4631377']
Such a very intelligent-sounding naming. Ultimate. Doom. Yeah, you have knowledge of extremely specific adjectives and nouns that give off threatening auras! Wonderful job! Your brain amuses me everyday.

OT: Broken in Scraps. I mean, those and these Machine Emperors are like brothers. My friend made a Scrap with this... it was horrifying.
[/quote]
Names are meant to bring you into the forum. you posted here, so it worked! it would have been more of a burn if you didnt post.

[123hriwu3beofuf89383y]

Bump

[DARKPLANT RISING]

[quote name='Spider5667' timestamp='1284646869' post='4631478']
Names are meant to bring you into the forum. you posted here, so it worked! it would have been more of a burn if you didnt post.
[/quote]
......
You have amazing wits on these things.

[Expelsword]

These are terrible for the game, these AND the Polar Gods... we don't need more ridiculous easy summon monsters!

That said... if these are coming out, I hope Cosmic Synchros (Shooting, Scar) get some support to topple these guys, seeing as that was WHY THEY EXIST AT ALL

[evilfusion]

The Polar Gods got nerfed.

Grannel is OPed as hell. These do render the Synchro mechanic dangerous, which could be considered bad for the game. On the plus side, it allows people to pursue their own anti-Synchro mania, and these didn't really get nerfed so...I'm not sure what to think. I love the Machine Emperors, but I recognize that they're really powerful.

[Mugendramon]

I just wonder what happened to the 'upgradeable Machine Emperors' original idea... these here are broken as hell, especially Grannel. I'd love to see a Deck around these guys though, Synchros nowadays prove a worthy threat. Espceially now that Polar Gods come into view.

[D.3.S. X]

Skiel - ok
Wisel - Awesome
Grannel - Yes. Just yes.

[123hriwu3beofuf89383y]

Hmm, Anti Synchro Deck
[spoiler=Deck]
[b]Monsters[/b]
Skiel
Wisel
2X Grannel
2X Cydra
Blast Sphere
Cyber Valley

[b]Spells[/b]
Mage Power
Poly
Heavy Storm

[b]Traps[/b]


[/spoiler]
Come on, Add to this Deck.

[Mugendramon]

You wish your opponent didn't have these 3 when you Summoned Dark Armed Dragon, eh?