Axiom_Nor Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Which do you think is better, Nobleman of Crossout, or Shield Crush? I think Crush, cause if your opponent has a face-up Reaper or Marshmallon, you can't kill it with Cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Personally, I like Shield Crush more too. Also, I don't get how people like Nobleman more than Shield Crush. Nobleman removes face-down monsters from play both on the field and deck. Yeh, so? What if it face-up? Shield Crush immediatly destroyes it regardless if it is face-up or face-down. And that player draws the same effect monster that was send to the graveyard earlier is most of the time very small. And Nobleman can be a dead draw too if your opponent has no face-down monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 also Nobleman only RFG's from the deck when its a flip monster, not if its marsh, or reaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 also Nobleman only RFG's from the deck when its a flip monster' date=' not if its marsh, or reaper[/quote'] Oh yeah, I forgot that too.Shield Crush is superior.I once has Nobleman in my deck and it helped me a couple of times, but god, so many freaking dead draws with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 yea, seriously, how many people have more than 1 of the same flip-effect monster in their deck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 yea' date=' seriously, how many people have more than 1 of the same flip-effect monster in their deck?[/quote'] Actually, you never know what you might encounter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 well, lets see...Dark MimicMan-eater bugOld Vindicative magician... what else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 well' date=' lets see...Dark MimicMan-eater bugOld Vindicative magician... what else?[/quote'] http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Flip_Monster_Effects Knock yourself out. And am I really the only 1 that is replying to this thread :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 lol, but what on that list is good enough to have more than 1 of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 a possible but not very likely is gravekeepers spy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicket Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Shield Crush is better, basically a Spell version of Granmarg when he's summoned. To be honest, none, really. I mean, who's gonna have a deck completely full of Flip Monsters? Sure, 1 might be good, but, seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axiom_Nor Posted January 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 OMG!i just realized a major downside to playing Nobelman, you X-out your opponents MoF, and then you have to get rid of YOUR MoF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silencerleader Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Shield Crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 NOBLEMAN IS WAY BETTER. it removes the moster from play, and rapes flip monsters. how many times do you get face up defense position monsters? you may say "well what if marshmallon gets flipped up, and you dont have shield crush?" use fissure, smashing ground, enemy controller. its that simple. nobleman ruins strategies, disallows your opponent to Call or Premature it, and usually allows for a good attack. Max, its rare you'll hit MoF with Nobleman and have to remove your own. MoF is used in very few decks. for those of you saying there arent many Flips that are good in more than 1, try Crystal Seer, Old Vindictive Magician, and Gravekeeper's Spy. all very good cards, all pretty often run in meta decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 Neither. There are better cards to deck instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HORUS Posted January 21, 2008 Report Share Posted January 21, 2008 so youre saying nobody should be running Nobleman or Shield Crush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 nobleman... nuff said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 agree with horus... NoC is way better... removes from play so less monsters on grave = less monsters to use pot of avarice, for example... also, what is better? send opponent's treeborn frog/sangan/disc commander to the grave OR remove opponent's treeborn frog/sangan/disc commander?? note: machine decks used to have dekoichi, also the most common flips are MoF, crystal seer, old vindictive magician, gravekeeper's spy and penguin soldier (yeah, the penguin is still used!!) and some cards that are commonly played face down are apprentice magician, swarms, sangan, d-hero fear monger, DDWL and don zaloog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Dinosaur Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Nobleman of Crossout can eliminate Marshmallon before his effect activates (assuming it's a face-down monster) and it can do the same thing to Spirit Reaper however if you play Shield Crush, Marshmallon would have to already be face-up thus his effect was probably activated upon Flip Summoning and it's easy to destroy him. Spirit Reaper, on the other hand, could be destroyed pretty easily too but basically ANY spell/trap can do that thanks to his effect. Final Analysis:Nobleman > S. Crush (Not by far though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Best Male 2008 Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 neither, because both have downsides in differn't decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfmvrocks Posted January 22, 2008 Report Share Posted January 22, 2008 Nobleman, just better in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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