young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 i need it to be free to and not yvd or kaibacorp cuz they both dont help me they jus let me build one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 uuuuh... lik, da program dat giv u da tips? Yugioh Wikia + YVD = Solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1287893998' post='4730825'] uuuuh... lik, da program dat giv u da tips? Yugioh Wikia + YVD = Solution. [/quote] no i kno tht im talkin bout 4 like my real deck like i type it all in there n they tell me whats wrong what to put in nd stuff like the deckbuilder 4 iphone but i dnt hav one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='young yugi' timestamp='1287894363' post='4730844'] no i kno tht im talkin bout 4 like my real deck like i type it all in there n they tell me whats wrong what to put in nd stuff like the deckbuilder 4 iphone but i dnt hav one [/quote] Oh dat cuz your dek confuz da bilder. U shud post it heer and we rate it. Or u culd dek test with YVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1287894492' post='4730849'] Oh dat cuz your dek confuz da bilder. U shud post it heer and we rate it. Or u culd dek test with YVD. [/quote] i cnt evr duel anybody evry time i put a user name it never works n ill post it n i dnt wanna here no theme bcuz if u think if u hav a theme certain cards shut it dwn so if i had 2 pick a theme 4 it id say reborn + gain lifepoints will be posted nxt post[quote name='young yugi' timestamp='1287894853' post='4730871'] i cnt evr duel anybody evry time i put a user name it never works n ill post it n i dnt wanna here no theme bcuz if u think if u hav a theme certain cards shut it dwn so if i had 2 pick a theme 4 it id say reborn + gain lifepoints will be posted nxt post [/quote] monsters man eater bug x2 sangan the calculator blue eyes white dragon ruin queen of oblivion rageing flame sprite spirit reaper morphing jar#2 cyber jar spear cretin submarineroid mirage dragon x2 mysterious pupeter gaudian angel joan relinquished tune warrior magician of faith x2 mask of darkness x2 penguin solger sonic bird tribe infecting virus the creator nitro synchron stardust dragon nitro warrior zolga spirit of the breeze x2 cobra jar elemental hero wildheart witch of the black forest diskblade rider white rabbit inaba spear dragon ultimate tyrano spells pot of greed end of the world x2 graceful charity trade in monster reincarnation swords of revealing light the shallow grave change of heart different dimension capsule lightning vortex premature burrial x2 mystic wok scapegoat soul reversal last will mystical space typhoon x2 black illusion ritual axe of dispear monster reborn traps dust tornado x3 draining sheild x2 regaki break sakuratsu armor compulshionary evacuation device scrap iron scarecrow x2 gift of the mystical elf trap hole mirror force enchanted javelin defense draw call of the haunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 yea... U still need to cut it down to Fortae... shud look like Monsters:20 Spells:10 Traps:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1287895031' post='4730878'] yea... U still need to cut it down to Fortae... shud look like Monsters:20 Spells:10 Traps:10 [/quote] but i draw with cards like pot of greed and graceful charity and i search my deck alot 4 rituals nd sangan nd witch of the black forest nd cyber jar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 You want a deck builder program that will not only have a full database of every card in the world, but will be able to build the deck for you using an AI matching the most skilled deckbuilders and duelists that ever lived? I'm not sure if you understand the sheer impossibility of that. The Deckbulder Assistant would need to be programmed to understand the synergy of every single card with one another, and combos and strategies that exceed the obvious, plus be able to factor in luck of the draw and counters for likely and unlikely strategies. And who programs these computers? Humans. So a human somewhere has the programming skill or a programming team large enough to do all of this for the constantly updated Yugioh Trading Card Game, and they themselves are players that comprehend the intricacies of the game to program this deckbuilder. Look, even the decks in the videogames are built by humans along a theme and the AI does the rest with the actual PLAYING and analyzing moves. That sort of thing takes a long time and has teams of programmers and designers on it. To have computer opponents build the deck themselves is seriously overreaching the normal capabilities of a computer game, much less an interactive deckbuilder. And even assuming this WAS made, it sure hell wouldn't be cheap. tl;dr, its existence is all but impossible, much less its availability to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='young yugi' timestamp='1287895353' post='4730899'] but i draw with cards like pot of greed and graceful charity and i search my deck alot 4 rituals nd sangan nd witch of the black forest nd cyber jar [/quote] Is it Trad or Advance? do u use banlist? evilfusion iz rite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Just go [s]netdeck[/s] read some decklists or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1287895544' post='4730911'] Is it Trad or Advance? do u use banlist? evilfusion iz rite [/quote] its traditional nd im not asking for perfection im asking for assistance and stability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='young yugi' timestamp='1287896840' post='4731006'] its traditional nd im not asking for perfection im asking for assistance and stability [/quote] course not der no such thing as perfection in monster mash... make the following 3 Gallas 3 Birman 3 Doom 31 what ever other monster you can think of. it's basicly the same thing you have now but without spells and traps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 loltopic is loltopic If you fail so hard at Yugimonz, just quit it! Seriously, a deck needs a theme first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 The Deck section on this forum is the answer to your question. Just post your Decklist and somebody will almost always give you advice on how to improve it. The above decklist you posted is terrible and illegal. For starters, you need to cut it down to 40-43 cards, by taking out most of the terrible/illegal ones. Secondly, the deck needs a proper theme. Decks with no theme are inconsistent and have no synergy, meaning the only thing you will really be able to do is summon a monster, hope it doesn't get destroyed, then maybe hide behind a couple of traps that you hope will not get destroyed, and that is it, and if they do get destroyed, you are screwed. Thirdly, the deck is quite highlanderish, which means that most of the cards you run are run at 1, which makes the deck inconsistent. Take out the illegal cards as well, even if you don't play in tournaments, the rules of the forum state that you need to keep to either the Advanced Format banlist or the Traditional Format banlist when you post in the appropriate section. If you stick to all of this, you could actually become quite good at this game, but to become as good as possible, it is necessary to warn you that it will cost a bit of money, no matter what deck you are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hyperion Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Oh god why did I laughed. [quote name='}~Gob~Zom~{' timestamp='1287909100' post='4731361'] Just post your Decklist and somebody will almost always give you advice on how to improve it. [/quote] The Your Deck section is the /b/ section of YCM. Seriously, that place is f***ing horrible. Even people with decent decks get yelled at and gains 0 constructive comments from that place, because most people are to busy yelling at the deck (creator) without willing to give actual constructive advice. Also, the lack of mods in that place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Dark Armed Duelist' timestamp='1287909956' post='4731380'] Oh god why did I laughed. The Your Deck section is the /b/ section of YCM. Seriously, that place is f***ing horrible. Even people with decent decks get yelled at and gains 0 constructive comments from that place, because most people are to busy yelling at the deck (creator) without willing to give actual constructive advice. Also, the lack of mods in that place. [/quote] If you think the Your Deck section of YCM is bad, you need to man up boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Dark Armed Duelist' timestamp='1287909956' post='4731380'] Oh god why did I laughed. The Your Deck section is the /b/ section of YCM. Seriously, that place is f***ing horrible. Even people with decent decks get yelled at and gains 0 constructive comments from that place, because most people are to busy yelling at the deck (creator) without willing to give actual constructive advice. Also, the lack of mods in that place. [/quote] The Rebel's thread are the only ones that fit that description. However, if you're talking about newb decks like this the only help that can be given is "pick a theme." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1287926616' post='4731686'] The Rebel's thread are the only ones that fit that description. However, if you're talking about newb decks like this the only help that can be given is "pick a theme." [/quote] see heres the problem with themes certain cards completeley shut dwn themes like cyber dragon decks so simple dragon decks so simple so what theme must u be taling about every theme has its weekness n i stronly beleive that this deck will beat all u guys ive never lost with this deck yet in tournys no cuz i liv so far from evrywhere big tounys take place so i dont bother 2 follow the ban list ive developed very good statagies with this deck weath u beleive it or not i promise evn though it doesent look statagized it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 That's part of the point of the side deck and perfecting your deck theme. Not every deck you face will shut down a theme. Sometimes strategies will counter other strategies and the only way to survive that is either to ready cards that defend against that theme, or prepare a side deck to bette counter that opposing theme. A deck that relies on sending lots of cards to the graveyard is killed by Macro Cosmos and other RFG cards. To counter that weakness, adding more destruction effects or counter cards can benefit. But to prepare a deck to counter every possible threat is nearly impossible. But to have no theme is even worse, because then you may as well slap a bunch of cards together and play with it, in which case decks with better synergy will have an advantage because the cards work off one another for better results. The banlist isn't just for tournament purposes. If everyone can use some of the incredibly overpowered cards that have been made in the game, they have no reason to use anything else. A skiled player is a player who plays with the cards that don't severely unbalance the game, and shows they understand the game more than "extremely powerful card, then play this extremely powerful card= I win". People who refuse to follow the banlist cannot call themselves skilled or good players, because a lot of those banned cards are so powerful that anyone with half a brain can run it with good results, even if they use the card stupidly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='young yugi' timestamp='1287948884' post='4732799'] see heres the problem with themes certain cards completeley shut dwn themes like cyber dragon decks so simple dragon decks so simple so what theme must u be taling about every theme has its weekness n i stronly beleive that this deck will beat all u guys ive never lost with this deck yet in tournys no cuz i liv so far from evrywhere big tounys take place so i dont bother 2 follow the ban list ive developed very good statagies with this deck weath u beleive it or not i promise evn though it doesent look statagized it is [/quote] Actually you would lose...not only because it has been proven several times on this site and in real life that themed decks destroy ones without, but since your deck is against the ban list it would be disqualified from the start. I can understand not wanting to follow the ban list but just using 3 of everything will have an end result of winning on the first turn before your opponent makes a move. (of course you'd have to be at least competent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
young yugi Posted October 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1287950922' post='4732920'] That's part of the point of the side deck and perfecting your deck theme. Not every deck you face will shut down a theme. Sometimes strategies will counter other strategies and the only way to survive that is either to ready cards that defend against that theme, or prepare a side deck to bette counter that opposing theme. A deck that relies on sending lots of cards to the graveyard is killed by Macro Cosmos and other RFG cards. To counter that weakness, adding more destruction effects or counter cards can benefit. But to prepare a deck to counter every possible threat is nearly impossible. But to have no theme is even worse, because then you may as well slap a bunch of cards together and play with it, in which case decks with better synergy will have an advantage because the cards work off one another for better results. The banlist isn't just for tournament purposes. If everyone can use some of the incredibly overpowered cards that have been made in the game, they have no reason to use anything else. A skiled player is a player who plays with the cards that don't severely unbalance the game, and shows they understand the game more than "extremely powerful card, then play this extremely powerful card= I win". People who refuse to follow the banlist cannot call themselves skilled or good players, because a lot of those banned cards are so powerful that anyone with half a brain can run it with good results, even if they use the card stupidly. [/quote] i know what u mean but my deck has a theme its just abstact nd the banlist is dumb sometimes its not like im useing the gods or chaous emporer dragon cards like pot of greed last will gracefull charity should not b banned theyre just banned because they help a winning staragy in tounaments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='young yugi' timestamp='1287953511' post='4733079'] i know what u mean but my deck has a theme its just abstact nd the banlist is dumb sometimes its not like im useing the gods or chaous emporer dragon cards like pot of greed last will gracefull charity should not b banned theyre just banned because they help a winning staragy in tounaments [/quote] Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity are banned because they are just too splashable. no strategy is necessary, and it will fit in EVERY deck. Pot of Greed is a +1 that can greatly turn the tides of a game... ofcourse with your deck such a change wouldn't really be noticed, but in competitive decks Pot of Greed is evilly overpowered... so as graceful charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 *skimmed through this topic a bit* [s]You know, I could be mod in the 'your deck' section, but appearently that place has "enough mods as it is"[/s] The reason the Your.dek section is "terrible", is because [i]MOST[/i] of the TCs who post there just post a random mis-mash that is just [i]BEGGING[/i] to end up as a flame war. Seriously, none of them are honest and just say: "This is my IRL totally non-competetive plays-with-my-friends budget.deck". [i]THEN[/i] we would kindly be aware of what we are dealing with. But do we get that? No. We a bunch of cocky tards who are like: "DERP, THIS DECK BEAT MY FRIENDS [s]poorman's version of[/s]LIGHTSWORN DECK SO ITS OBVSLY GUD!!11!1" If the TCs at least mentioned stuff relating to how much they were willing to spend on this game, then they would get a different reaction. Also, most of the Your.dek section users usually assume the TC has access to every card known to man, when the TC doesnt mention what sort of deck they are using. [i]ALSO[/i], even though they post a deck with B& cards in it, they are still unaware of the section that is for B& cards. tl;dr - YCM needs a "Non-competetive deck" section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1287954920' post='4733153'] *skimmed through this topic a bit* [s]You know, I could be mod in the 'your deck' section, but appearently that place has "enough mods as it is"[/s] The reason the Your.dek section is "terrible", is because [i]MOST[/i] of the TCs who post there just post a random mis-mash that is just [i]BEGGING[/i] to end up as a flame war. Seriously, none of them are honest and just say: "This is my IRL totally non-competetive plays-with-my-friends budget.deck". [i]THEN[/i] we would kindly be aware of what we are dealing with. But do we get that? No. We a bunch of cocky tards who are like: "DERP, THIS DECK BEAT MY FRIENDS [s]poorman's version of[/s]LIGHTSWORN DECK SO ITS OBVSLY GUD!!11!1" If the TCs at least mentioned stuff relating to how much they were willing to spend on this game, then they would get a different reaction. Also, most of the Your.dek section users usually assume the TC has access to every card known to man, when the TC doesnt mention what sort of deck they are using. [i]ALSO[/i], even though they post a deck with B& cards in it, they are still unaware of the section that is for B& cards. tl;dr - YCM needs a "Non-competetive deck" section. [/quote] read the [url="http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/225467-irl-decks/"]following[/url]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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