MTG Discussion Thread

[.Frostpaw]

So let's discuss MTG decks, cards, news, and characters.

My current deck is what I call teh InfinitElves deck.

[spoiler=Deck]
[spoiler=Lands 24]
16 Forest
8 Swamp[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Creatures 19]

2 Copperhorn Scout
3 Protean Hydra
3 Greenweaver Druid
3 Joraga Warcaller
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Nissa's Chosen[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Spells]
2 Diabolic Tutor
2 Overwhelming Stampede
2 Giant Growth
3 Untamed Might[/spoiler]
[spoiler=Planeswalkers 8]
4 Liliana Vess
4 Nissa Revane[/spoiler][/spoiler]

[Saturn of Elemia]

Not a bad deck. I see the strategy behind it. Use cheap elves and swarm quickly - using that lovely Joraga Warcaller and Overwhelming Stampede. Interesting that you have 8 Planeswalkers in there.

If only Wellwishers could be used in Standard, then you'd have a nasty way to gain life.

I wouldn't mind trying to face it with my white weenie Ally deck.

[.Frostpaw]

Yeah, that would be nice. Just downloaded Duels of The Planeswalkers to my PS3, and I love the simplicity of the Garruk deck. My friend uses the Chandra deck when we play co-op. We beat Jace & Chandra but lost to Elspeth & Chandra.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

The only stuff I know about MTG are the cards which my cousin gave to me when he moved out of our house... and that was years ago.

It's a fun game, but I just can't get a complete grasp of it. And plus there's so many cards by now it's insane.

[Catterjune]

[quote]Until we get an Other TCG forum..,[/quote]

I honestly wouldn't give a damn if you used the lolstrategy forum for that. Though I suppose you may wanna ask a few other mods how they feel about it...

[Saturn of Elemia]

I've recently made a new deck that is quite fun - a White Weenie Kor deck.

The idea to get out Argentum Armor out as quickly as possible. (If you don't know what it is, it is a 6 cost Equipment that gives +6/+6 and you destroy a permanent when the equipped monster attacks).

The deck has many ways to get it out (Stoneforge Mystic, Quest for the Holy Relic, Kor Outfitter) and has creatures that benefit from being equipped (Armament Master, Kitesail Apprentice, Kor Duelist).

I also have Sword of Vengeance and Scythe of the Wretched in the deck, but I am considering switching out the Scythe for something else.

[Azmodius]

Sweet. MTG. I currently have Titan Valakut and U/w proliferate control, but my favorite thing to do is draft.

[Saturn of Elemia]

I got lucky in a draft and pulled both a 'Sword of Body and Mind' and a "Molten-Tail Masticore'

[Sander]

For some reason, I'm stuck on the idea of making a Eldrazi Ramp Deck, anybody got any suggestions?

[.Frostpaw]

I built Mono Red Eldrazi Ramp, but it was terrible. If you want, I could ask for eldrazi ramp advice next time I'm at the LGS. Just built a U/R Metalcraft deck. I <3 Screeching Silcaw.

[Saturn of Elemia]

If you wanna run an Eldrazi deck, then here are some recommended cards:

(PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS FOR LEGACY)

If you wanna take a GREEN approach, try some of these:

Llanowar Elf
Sylvan Ranger
Nest Invader
Elvish Piper
Channel (Only allowed 1 per deck)
Awakening Zone
Cultivate

If you wanna take a black approach, try some of these:

Exhume
Reanimate
Animate Dead
(Any card that can allow you to discard large Eldrazi from your hand)

[JG.]

I once tried playing it with my uncle (game developer) on his 360. I understood the rules, and is certainly better than YGO, but still doesn't interest me that much =P

[Sliver King]

SLIVERS Nuff said.

[.Frostpaw]

[quote name='JG.' timestamp='1291920543' post='4839969']
I once tried playing it with my uncle (game developer) on his 360. I understood the rules, and is certainly better than YGO, but still doesn't interest me that much =P
[/quote]

Since you played MTG on the 360, I'm assuming it was Duels of the Planeswalkers? It's fun, but it's starting to bore me with its lack of full deck customization.

I'm stuck between two deck Ideas. I'm dying to run "Objection!", my semi-budget B/W control deck, but I like the look of my U/R Metalcraft deck (I just pulled Koth) Since I can't decide which one to run, I want your opinions.

[spoiler=Objection!]
Lands
10 Island
10 Plains
2 Glacial Fortress
2 Seachrome Coast

Spells
1 Venser, the Sojourner
1 True Conviction
3 Day of Judgment
4 Mana Leak
4 Cancel
4 Stoic Rebuttal

Artifact Creatures
4 Neurok Replica
4 Auriok Replica

Artifacts
4 Tumble Magnet[/spoiler]


[spoiler=Metalcraft]
Lands
10 Mountain
10 Island
2 Teetering Peaks
2 Halimar Depths

Creatures

4 Hoard-Smelter Dragon
4 Ferrovore
2 Argent Sphinx
4 Vedalken Certarch
4 Screeching Silcaw

Spells
4 Stoic Rebuttal
1 Chandra Nalaar
1 Koth of the Hammer

Artifact Creatures
1 Darksteel Juggernaut
2 Iron Myr
2 Silver Myr
2 Palladium Myr

2 Everflowing Chalice
2 Elixir of Immortality
2 Tumble Magnet
4 Glint Hawk Idol[/spoiler]

[Sander]

[quote name='SaTuRnPaLaDiN' timestamp='1291870102' post='4839408']If you wanna take a black approach, try some of these:

Exhume
Reanimate
Animate Dead
(Any card that can allow you to discard large Eldrazi from your hand)
[/quote]

This is what I got so far:

Creatures:

3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Pawn of Ulamog

Sorcery:

4 Zombify
4 Buried Alive
3 Rise from the Grave

Instant:

4 Doom Blade

Enchantment:

3 Animate Dead

Lands:

4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
20 Swamp

Yeah, needs more creatures, no? Any suggestions?

[Sailor Gourmet]

Eh, I like it.
I always run Doom Blade on the side, but that's just me.
By the way, yes. You need more creatures.
Er...really, for Eldrazi, I'd suggest a red deck, since you would have a lot of support from the little "underling" Eldrazi.
I see your point with a black deck, though. Balance it a bit, though, since the revival cards may clog up your hand a bit.

I get my deck ideas from online, and this I got from Magic Deck Vortex, which I'm going to get soon for casual play.

Creatures:
4 Avarax
4 Ember Beast
4 Leery Fogbeast
4 Ravenous Baloth
4 Snarling Undorak
4 Wirewood Savage

Sorcery:
4 Firebolt
4 Volcanic Hammer

Instants:
4 Vitality Charm

Lands:
2 Contested Cliffs
12 Forest
10 Mountain

I know it won't win a major tournament or anything, but I like the casual play. It's relaxing.
Any suggestions?

[Saturn of Elemia]

[quote name='Zandaa Roaisu' timestamp='1291935664' post='4840442']
This is what I got so far:

Creatures:

3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
4 Pawn of Ulamog

Sorcery:

4 Zombify
4 Buried Alive
3 Rise from the Grave

Instant:

4 Doom Blade

Enchantment:

3 Animate Dead

Lands:

4 Eldrazi Temple
4 Eye of Ugin
20 Swamp

Yeah, needs more creatures, no? Any suggestions?
[/quote]

You have the right idea with Animate Dead. Might I suggest Reanimate? It's a sorcery that only costs 1 black and lets you pull a creture from ANY graveyard to your field - but you lose life equal to the converted mana cost of the revived creature. If you're willing to take the backlash, then try and get four of that card. Buried Alive is a good idea to throw your stuff in the grave. If you had a few Dark Rituals, that'd make for a nice opening move

Lemme see if I can give an improved decklist (at least one that I would use):

CREATURES (18)
3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn [b](Naturally, your heavy hitter and insurace against mill)[/b]
2 Pathrazer of Ulamog [b](Big hitter that takes 3 creatures to be blocked)[/b]
2 It That Betrays [b](You get the things that they sacrifice with annihilator)[/b]

3 Abyssal Gatekeeper [b](If they kill it, everyone sacrifices a creature)[/b]
3 Steel Wall [b](A 1 cost artifact wall that is a 0/4 - good for holding off attacks)[/b]
3 Blood Pet [b](A 1 black creature that can be sacrificed for 1 black mana - just in case you need one more)[/b]
2 Death's Shadow [b](If you're getting beat up badly or take a big deficit from Reanimate, this becomes a cheap beatstick)[/b]

SPELLS (20)
4 Animate Dead [b](Resurrection card)[/b]
4 Doom Blade [b](Your kill spell)[/b]
3 Reanimate [b](A 1 black resurrection spell that does damage to you equal to the cost of the creature you resurrect)[/b]
3 Buried Alive [b](Throws 3 creatures from your deck into the grave - perfect for getting Pathrazer and It that Betrays into the grave)[/b]
3 Dark Ritual [b](Get 3 black mana for the cost of 1 - what's not to love?)[/b]
3 Sign in Blood [b](Draw 2 cards and lose 2 life. This can help you discard things at the end of the turn if you have too much in your hand *hint*)[/b]

LANDS (22)
4 Eldrazi Temple [b](REQUIRED for Eldrazi decks)[/b]
2 Eye of Ugin [b](Two should suffice - since not only is it a legendary land, but you're trying to cast the creatures from the grave instead of hard-casting them)[/b]
18 Swamp [b](Duh)[/b]

Hopefully this will help some. If you or anyone has suggestions or improvements, feel free to throw them out here!

[Sliver King]

Should I run Dingus Egg in my Green Eldrazi Ramp Deck?

[Saturn of Elemia]

[quote name='Sliver King' timestamp='1291988816' post='4841419']
Should I run Dingus Egg in my Green Eldrazi Ramp Deck?
[/quote]

Dingus Egg? I wouldn't recommend that for a Green Eldrazi Ramp Deck.

Dingus Egg would be useful in a deck that revolves around land destruction (whcih is primarily red and black).

[Sander]

Saturn, any idea on how to change the deck to more like controllish? Gatekeeper of Malakir and Consuming Vapors would do wonders in the deck, I recon.

And yeah, I didn't like how the first version of the deck tested out, I wasn't able to do much, naym any good plays, really.

[MarbleZone]

It's been a while since I played, let's see if I can be of some help. I'll take your original list.

In my opinion, Green is incomparably better than Black when it comes to Eldrazi, but if you really want Black:

Creatures:

1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn (with one out you win, with three you'll likely get stuck. The CMC is obscene, it's a dead draw.)
2 Ulamog the Infinite Gyre
3 Ulamog's Crusher
1 Pathrazer of Ulamog
2 Gatekeeper of Malakir
4 Vampire Nighthawk


Sorcery:

4 Demonic Tutor
2 Zombify
2 Buried Alive
2 Rise from the Grave

Instant:

4 Dark Ritual
3 Doom Blade
2 Vendetta

Enchantment:

2 Animate Dead
2 Phyrexian Arena

Lands:

4 Eldrazi Temple
2 Eye of Ugin
18 Swamp

It's just a suggestion - it's not so heavily based on recursion, and it's still short on creatures, but not having playtested it, it doesn't look too bad on paper. However, it only works for casual - nobody will let you run 4 Tutors and 4 Rituals anywhere else

[Sander]

So I threw the Mono B Eldrazi idea back tp the drawing boards atm and decided to try something else. I've always liked Abyssal Persecutor

Creatures: 19

4 Abyssal Persecutor
4 Skinrender
4 Nantuko Shade
4 Gatekeeper of Malakir
3 Vampire Nighthawk

15

4 Doom Blade
4 Sign in Blood
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Consuming the Vapors
2 Grasp of Darkness

26

4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Marsh Flats
18 Swamp

[Sliver King]

[quote name="SaTuRnPaLaDiN" timestamp='1292048132' post='4843691']
Dingus Egg? I wouldn't recommend that for a Green Eldrazi Ramp Deck.

Dingus Egg would be useful in a deck that revolves around land destruction (whcih is primarily red and black).
[/quote]
I play tested it actually. I OTKd with Dingus Egg, Emrakul, The Aeons Torn and something else.

[.Frostpaw]

So my friend plays MTG occasionally, and loves RDW. I wanted to build a deck for him to use since he doesn't have his own cards yet, but it needs to be good, as I want to use it when he doesn't. Here's what I've got.

24 Mountain

4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chandra's Outrage
4 Spire Barrage
4 Fireball
1 Chandra Nalaar
1 Koth of the Hammer

4 Bladetusk Boar
4 Molten Ravager
4 Ember Hauler
2 Vulshok Berserker
2 Fire Servant
3 HellKite Charger

Tips/Suggestions? It basically starts with Bolt, then works it way up to Koth and Chandra. I'm currently trying to find a way to accelerate mana to use Charger's ability several times per turn.

[.Frostpaw]

Anyone else play infect? I'm curently using Green Infect as my main deck. It beat RDW on turn 7.