OMG whats that thingy crawling on the floor?!

[lotra]

[b]Deck: 42 [/b]( I know I should run 40 but I like odd numbers )

[b]Non-Tribute monsters: 8[/b]

[b]3 Doom Dozer
1 Ultimate Insect LV7
2 Ultimate Insect LV5
2 Ultimate Insect LV3[/b]

[b]Tribute Monsters: 12[/b]

[b]2 Chainsaw Insect[/b] ( I know it gives my opponent 1 extra card but the chances it could hurt me are 2,5% )
[b]2 Shield Worm[/b] ( great Defense )
[b]2 Flying Kamakiri #1[/b] ( searcher)
[b]2 Howling Insect[/b] ( searcher)
[b]2 Koa'ki Meiro Beetle[/b]
[b]2 Infernity Beetle[/b] ( tuner)

[b]Spells: 11[/b]

[b]2 Verdant Sanctuary
2 Insect Imitation
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 My Body As A Shield
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Swords of Revealing Light[/b]

[b]Traps: 11

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Negate Attack
2 Solemn warning
2 Dark Bribe
2 Dimensional Prison
1 Mirror Force

Synchro: 15

2 Underground Arachnid
2 Stardust Dragon
2 Red Dragon Archfiend
2 Black Rose dragon
2 Scrap Dragon
2 Thought Ruler Archfiend
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Brionac, Dragon of The Ice Barrier
1 Goyo Guardian[/b]

This is not a RL Deck but for a game, cards are no issues and i can co up a little to Star Strike Blast.

problems I have with this deck is that it doesn't go well against Meta or recently, Fish OTK.

[.Nu-13]

First of all, drop the following:

-1 Ultimate Insect LV7
-2 Ultimate Insect LV5
-2 Ultimate Insect LV3
-2 Shield Worm
-2 Chainsaw Insect
-2 Fling Kamakiri #1
-2 Koa'ki Meiru Beetle

LV Insets have their own Deck. Shield Worm doesn't help at all, because many decks benefit from milling. Chainsaw Insect is bad, because it can give your opponent cards they need. Kamakiri doesn't work, as you have no WIND monsters, other that itself. KM Beetle is a bad and situational card, especially because now meta isn't LIGHT and DARK mix.

-2 Negate Attack
-2 Dark Bribe

Negate Attack is bad because it's not chainable. Better use Threatening Roar. And Dark Bribe is like Chainsaw Insect. Only helps your opponent

Extra Deck looks nice. If you already play DARK Tuner, you can as well put Infernity Doom Dragon there.

I'll see if you agree on this fixes, then I'll tell you what to add

[lotra]

u just removed almost my entire monster cards,

[.Nu-13]

Because they're bad

[lotra]

[quote name='Chillaccino' timestamp='1292161198' post='4846468']
Because they're bad
[/quote]

well why don't u post ur version, if its really that much better

[.Nu-13]

Honestly? I don't play insects. I only know that your monster lineup is bad. You should play 3x Howling Insect and 3x Verdant Sanctuary. You also lack Magical Merchant, Gokipon and Swarm of Scarabs/Locust. Also, you can as well put in 3rd Infernity Beetle and Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind. It's a good DARK Tuner for Arachnid.

[s]Or play Larvae Moth Turbo[/s]

[Buttercup]

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/231867-verdant-lolpluses/

[Toffee.]

[quote name='lotra' timestamp='1292161354' post='4846471']
well why don't u post ur version, if its really that much better
[/quote]
Your not even running Solidarity

[Buttercup]

Solidarity is bad, this guy knows more than you lot do. Apart from a few retarded choices, he's got it right.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1292181801' post='4846950']
Solidarity is bad
[/quote]
Well, yea.
But if he wants to run Ultimate Insect, Solidary would be annoying here.

[Buttercup]

You can't polish a turd.

[Toffee.]

[quote name='Ser Warjacksworth' timestamp='1292183429' post='4847035']
You can't polish a turd.
[/quote]
Pretty much :/

[Manjoume Thunder]

[quote]You can't polish a turd.[/quote]

Actually, you can. Mythbusters did it.

Just sayin'

[Buttercup]

I hate Mythbusters.

[lotra]

I don't understand whats so wrong with this deck?!

I'll explain again:

[b]Chainsaw Insect[/b] - My knight and Yes it gives the opponent 1 extra card but the changes its any good to him is 1/40 or 2.5%, tha dosen't sound like good odds to me

[b]Flying Kamakiri[/b] and [b]Howling Insect[/b] helps me search quickly for [b]Ultimate Insect LV3[/b]

[b]Infernity Beetle[/b] - hes there cause hes the only good DARK Insect tuner and I only runn 100% pure decks

[b]Koa'ki Meiro Beetle[/b] - I was told every one who plays insects uses him

[b]Shield Worm[/b] - 2000DEF is not bad but I dont care about his milling effect

And The Ultimate Insect monsters plus Doom Dozer makes the center of this deck.

If you really wanna help than please make sure it dosen't loose its purpose, summoning Ultimate Insect LV7, Doom Dozer and if necessary....a....Synchro Monster lol


and its not a turd, i did not make retarded choices and this deck dose not suck, if u can help than fine by all means do it but do not call it a bad deck!

[Legend Zero]

Your opponent only has 1 card in a 40 card deck (actually 45 at the least since you draw an opening hand) that can deal with chainsaw? Bad player.

[lotra]

[quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1292247653' post='4848864']
Your opponent only has 1 card in a 40 card deck (actually 45 at the least since you draw an opening hand) that can deal with chainsaw? Bad player.
[/quote]

it was just an example of that chainsaw could give my opponent the chance to get 1 card he/she really wants.

40 cards deck - 5 cards as opening hand = 1/35 = 2.8%

50 cards deck - 5 cards as opening hand = 1/45 = 2,2%

60 cards deck - 5 cards as opening hand = 1/55 = 1,8%

as you can see, the chances that Chainsaw Insect or Dark Bribe could give you any hand advantage is still VERY LOW.


I mean if the doctor would say that the chances you surviving the operation is 2,8%, would you take it?

[Resident Fascist]

Bah, I know NOTHING about insects. Though look at this situation.

You are playing against LS.

They have:
Garoth, Lyla, Lumina, Ryko and Celestia in thier grave.

In thier hand:
Charge, 2 Solars and another Celestia.

You attack with Chainsaw insect and they get JD.

Jd is dropped next turn and celestia's effect when normal summoned destroys both of your monsters.

-5300 LP to you. Very hard for you to recover from this situation, as JD can just blow up the field.

[lotra]

thats why they invented a "side deck"


an no! they do not get JD, since you cant choose what card u get! and again the chances of drawing it is [b]less than 3%[/b]

[Buttercup]

[quote name='lotra' timestamp='1292372753' post='4853135']
it was just an example of that chainsaw could give my opponent the chance to get 1 card he/she really wants.

40 cards deck - 5 cards as opening hand = 1/35 = 2.8%

50 cards deck - 5 cards as opening hand = 1/45 = 2,2%

60 cards deck - 5 cards as opening hand = 1/55 = 1,8%

as you can see, the chances that Chainsaw Insect or Dark Bribe could give you any hand advantage is still VERY LOW.


I mean if the doctor would say that the chances you surviving the operation is 2,8%, would you take it?
[/quote]

srsly half of my 40 card deck is outs to your terrible card.

[Briton of Rose]

[quote name='lotra']
3 Doom Dozer
1 Ultimate Insect LV7
2 Ultimate Insect LV5
2 Ultimate Insect LV3
2 Chainsaw Insect
2 Shield Worm
2 Flying Kamakiri #1
2 Howling Insect
2 Koa'ki Meiro Beetle
2 Infernity Beetle

2 Verdant Sanctuary
2 Insect Imitation
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 My Body As A Shield
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Swords of Revealing Light

2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Negate Attack
2 Solemn warning
2 Dark Bribe
2 Dimensional Prison
1 Mirror Force

2 Underground Arachnid
2 Stardust Dragon
2 Red Dragon Archfiend
2 Black Rose dragon
2 Scrap Dragon
2 Thought Ruler Archfiend
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Brionac, Dragon of The Ice Barrier
1 Goyo Guardian
[/quote]

If you're going to run pure insects, here are a few suggestions:
1) Drop the LV monsters. There's a reason nobody plays them, and that's because they're [i]severely[/i] sub-par.
2) If you run Koa'ki Meiru Beetle, run 3 copies. And to take advantage of their effect, run 3x Saber Beetle.
3) Drop the Kamakiris and replace them with 2x Pinch Hopper. Also switch the Infernity Beetles to Needle Worms.
4) -1 My Body, +1 Gold Sarc. Additionally: -1 Doom Dozer, +1 Shield Worm. [size="1"](You don't really need 3 Dozers.)[/size]
5) Change the 2x Insect Imitation to 2x Solidarity, and the 2x Negate Attack to 2x Book of Moon.
6) Consider making a switch-out side deck using WIND Insects, Infernity Beetles, and Man-Eater Bugs.

None of this is written in stone [size="1"](or carved on slabs )[/size], but it should make the deck more playable.

[lotra]

[quote name='Briton of Rose' timestamp='1292410502' post='4854145']
If you're going to run pure insects, here are a few suggestions:
1) Drop the LV monsters. There's a reason nobody plays them, and that's because they're [i]severely[/i] sub-par.
2) If you run Koa'ki Meiru Beetle, run 3 copies. And to take advantage of their effect, run 3x Saber Beetle.
3) Drop the Kamakiris and replace them with 2x Pinch Hopper. Also switch the Infernity Beetles to Needle Worms.
4) -1 My Body, +1 Gold Sarc. Additionally: -1 Doom Dozer, +1 Shield Worm. [size="1"](You don't really need 3 Dozers.)[/size]
5) Change the 2x Insect Imitation to 2x Solidarity, and the 2x Negate Attack to 2x Book of Moon.
6) Consider making a switch-out side deck using WIND Insects, Infernity Beetles, and Man-Eater Bugs.

None of this is written in stone [size="1"](or carved on slabs )[/size], but it should make the deck more playable.
[/quote]


wow thanks thats the first real help I get in this topic but I cannot agree with u, LV insects are awesome if played correctly

but the rest sounds great.

btw, I never wanted 3 copy's of Doom Dozer but on another forum they told me to run it in 3

[RAEGING D0GKING]

[quote name='lotra' timestamp='1292425034' post='4854299']
wow thanks thats the first real help I get in this topic but I cannot agree with u, LV insects are awesome if played correctly

but the rest sounds great.

btw, I never wanted 3 copy's of Doom Dozer but on another forum they told me to run it in 3
[/quote]

Which forum?

Also decks these days only use 37 cards.
Duality.

[lotra]

[quote name='Champion Lance' timestamp='1292425148' post='4854301']
Which forum?

Also decks these days only use 37 cards.
Duality.
[/quote]


Kaiba Corporation.com its a site that has a free game where u can play yugioh.



the rules say u have to have at least 40 cards, no less

[El-Rrey]

[quote name='Shard Of Stardust' timestamp='1292375747' post='4853323']
Bah, I know NOTHING about insects. Though look at this situation.

You are playing against LS.

They have:
Garoth, Lyla, Lumina, Ryko and Celestia in thier grave.

In thier hand:
Charge, 2 Solars and another Celestia.

You attack with Chainsaw insect and they get JD.

Jd is dropped next turn and celestia's effect when normal summoned destroys both of your monsters.

-5300 LP to you. Very hard for you to recover from this situation, as JD can just blow up the field.
[/quote]

Quit using bad situations