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[quote name='Dementuo' timestamp='1292194678' post='4847640']
No. I said that if your opponent attacks, and you use a single Honest, then your opponent recieves Battle Damage equal to your monster.
So, if you attacked Shiniing Angel with Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem, and I used Honest, then you would take 1400 damage.
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......Yea, I mis-read your earlier post
>___>

[quote name='!' timestamp='1292194785' post='4847646']
At least they know what they're talking about...
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How you can work an Honest into Crystal Beasts, is beyond me.
(No, you cant use Carbuncle as a Counter Argument.)
And even then, why is your Opponent trying to beat it [i]by battle[/i]?
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[quote name='=Evangelion=' timestamp='1292195365' post='4847681']
No, I still can't understand the logic working here.
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Its a typical newbie moment.
They dont use a lot of monster destruction-effects, and try to win everything by battle.
..........
I blame the anime.
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[quote name='Anger Level' timestamp='1292195723' post='4847697']
Honestly why does everyone think that?
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This r srs discushin
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And I r srs Hot Shot

It works like this:
-Check your monster's ATK
--Is it higher then a monster they have?
---Proceed to attack it
--It has higher ATK
---Look for an alternet method to remove it from the field
----Destroy it with a card effect
-----Attack directly
----Cant destroy it with a card effect
---Check other monster's they have, to see if you can destroy something
--Cant destroy something
---Monster doesnt attack this turn and/or switches to defence
--Hope your monster survives the turn, to repeat the above
-End Logic.
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[quote name='!' timestamp='1292197131' post='4847767']
You might as well give up...Anger Level is one of those people who resists all logic.
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[s]Just like the majority of 8 year olds I run into who want to discuss that the God cards are "cool", and that I'm wrong for telling them how terrible they are.[/s]
Pretty much :/
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[quote name='Champion Lance' timestamp='1292187846' post='4847277']
Needs to be limited or banned.
Its basicly
Destroy your opponents monster and inflict damage to them equal to the destroyed monsters attack.
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Definitely. Honest has always been the biggest cheat card since it came out. It wouldn't be so bad if the ATK increase was for the damage step only, but since it works until the end of the turn. . .
I hate Honest.
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I use it with Lord British Space Fighter. Not only can it constantly "attack once again in a row" to clear your opponent's field, but if your opponent's monster has a high enough ATK, then Lord British + Honest + Limiter Removal = game.

I feel conflicted when it comes to Honest's place on the ban list. It made my mediocre Gradius Starship deck into something great but, then again, it's so easily abused by so many decks...
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If god throws the universe at a light monster and you discard honest the light monster's attack goes up by THE UNIVERSE?

It's stupidly too powerful. How this card has gone this long at anything more than 0 or 1 is beyond me. Another example of konami breaking a good game just to make a buck.

Either give all attributes an honest or put this clown where he needs to be with DAD. Yes, it's narrow, but in that narrow world Honest is god.

not bitter at all my dark gaia he's killed

really (not true)
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