Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090912171539/warhammer40k/images/thumb/f/ff/Chaos_symbol.jpg/559px-Chaos_symbol.jpg[/img] Discuss how this archetype pushed this game faster and how it forever changed YGO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neither Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 It broke the game and brought about a plethora of overpowered cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 It might've back in the day, but it's not a problem now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Chaos had severly weakened. Now, if they were to make another Chaos monster that was like back in the day.... Even I would be tempted to quit. They both made YGO better and worse. Today's Meta owe everything to Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Yes.. If it wasn't for them, we would still be running Pot of Greed @3 and all kinds of other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Bloodstained Óƒiva' timestamp='1292902895' post='4869675'] Yes.. If it wasn't for them, we would still be running Pot of Greed @3 and all kinds of other stuff. [/quote] Protip: Pot of Greed was limited for years before chaos came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Really? Someone at my locals told me the whole limit thing was made for Chaos, then Konami went 'let's add some other cards'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Neither' timestamp='1292902611' post='4869661'] It broke the game and brought about a plethora of overpowered cards. [/quote] [quote name='ze super cat' timestamp='1292902709' post='4869669'] It might've back in the day, but it's not a problem now... [/quote] LIES!!1! ALL LIES!!1! I <3 Chaos, if it isn't obvious. I agree, it has changed YGO by a ton. Such a sad thing though how Chaos Sorcerer is the only one from the trio of famous Chaos monsters to still be allowed in Advance, but sadly, Chaos Sorcerer to might hit the Ban List sooner or later D: I'm also expecting a release for a Chaos Sorceress, with the exact same effect like Chaos Sorcerer, except it can remove from play a Spell or Trap instead, and has the reversed stats of Chaos Sorcerer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Chaos was the father of DAD, JD, most "good" cards we know now. Although it did break the game severely, I think the feat would have been done in one way or another. It could have revolved around discarding, it could have revolved around multiple attacking. As it turned out it revolved around grave control; the grave was selected as the important part of YGO from since then. I believe not many card games use grave control...at least it made YGO slightly more orignal than its archrival Duel M@ssters. I still run one of my Chaos Emperor Dragons in my One Deck Duel Deck, just for fun. "I REMOVE FROM PLAY OJAMA YELLOW AND RIGHT LEG OF THE FORBIDDEN ONE TO BRING FORTH - CHAOS EMPEROR DRAGON, ENVOY OF THE END!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Though, I wonder if Konami had forgotten one of it's first archtype. Though it would have been awesome if they became their own attribute and all required the rfp light and dark monsters to summon them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='VK's Red Terror' timestamp='1292906145' post='4869785'] Though, I wonder if Konami had forgotten one of it's first archtype. Though it would have been awesome if they became their own attribute and all required the rfp light and dark monsters to summon them. [/quote] But then they can't RFP themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='ze super cat' timestamp='1292902709' post='4869669'] It might've back in the day, but it's not a problem now... [/quote] That's because all the cards that made them lethal: Painful Choice, BLS, CED, Yata, Graceful Charity, are banned. >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1292907064' post='4869810'] That's because all the cards that made them lethal: Painful Choice, BLS, CED, Yata, Graceful Charity, are banned. >_> [/quote] What about Chaos Sorcerer? D: Sure he isn't as overpowering as the other two, but he's still pretty good, decent at the least >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Still use it in Trad and fun duels. If unleashed upon today's meta...it would be [i]chaotic[/i]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1292907256' post='4869819'] What about Chaos Sorcerer? D: Sure he isn't as overpowering as the other two, but he's still pretty good, decent at the least >.> [/quote] He's descent, but he still can't wreck meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisu Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1292907447' post='4869825'] Still use it in Trad and fun duels. If unleashed upon today's meta...it would be [i]chaotic[/i]. [/quote] oicwutudidthar I really want to see how an unlimited Chaos deck would match up against today's metagame, if now Tier 2. There's a plenthora of anti-destruction cards nowadays... Hmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted December 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Hmmph. Chaos: Gothic Lolita Light: Lolita Dark: Chav Anyhow, I really wanna try out what would happen if we reintroduced Chaos back. Liek, Chaos Sorcerer at 2, or 3 even. Perhaps create more Chaos syncrhos with less restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='VK's Red Terror' timestamp='1292911446' post='4869953'] Perhaps create more Chaos synchros with less restrictions. [/quote] There are Chaos Synchros as of right now? All I know of is Chaos Goddess, who is somewhat decent effect-wise, but it's Synchro Requirements just ruin. Also, don't anyone think Chaos is dead. It's Tier 2 / Tier 3 as of right now I think. It makes me feel unique being one of the few majority here who still play Chaos competitively and whatnot :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='VK's Red Terror' timestamp='1292911446' post='4869953']Liek, Chaos Sorcerer at 2, or 3 even.[/quote] I think they're at 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of Nothing Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I hate Chaos and what it's done to today's meta. Seriously, I hate the speed of current Yugioh games. But I understand that Konami has to constantly make new and stronger cards to fit our interests. I bet within the next few years we'll have a spell card that says something like "Special summon one monster from your deck," without a negative effect, and people will still call it weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='=Evangelion=' timestamp='1292911815' post='4869961'] I think they're at 2... [/quote] Last Format Limited, this format, Semi-Limited. I bet Konami will put it at 1 again next Format. I find Chaos Sorcerer to cloggy / dead drawy at 3. Somewhat Off Topic: What do you guys think was the best Chaos variety out there / is one of the most played Chaos varieties in the current Meta / etc. I find my favorite being Chaos Village to be honest, just because of the ways it can make your opponent rage. Also, inb4chaoscontrol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1292912078' post='4869969'] Last Format Limited, this format, Semi-Limited. I bet Konami will put it at 1 again next Format. I find Chaos Sorcerer to cloggy / dead drawy at 3. Somewhat Off Topic: What do you guys think was the best Chaos variety out there / is one of the most played Chaos varieties in the current Meta / etc. I find my favorite being Chaos Village to be honest, just because of the ways it can make your opponent rage. Also, inb4chaoscontrol. [/quote] Putting your opponent in Village at all makes them RAEG. Add Decree and Sorc and they start using..... [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090813185930/yugioh/images/thumb/f/f2/FlippingtheTableVG-GX02.jpg/300px-FlippingtheTableVG-GX02.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Anbu-of-Sand' timestamp='1292905025' post='4869746'] Such a sad thing though how Chaos Sorcerer is the only one from the trio of famous Chaos monsters to still be allowed in Advance, but sadly, Chaos Sorcerer to might hit the Ban List sooner or later [/quote] iirc Chaos Sorceror was banned from April 2006 - March 2009 (when it became limited, then it became semi-limited in September 2009, limited again March 2010 and semi-limited Spetember 2010) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexsuncion Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 I enjoy the Chaos archetype, and wish they did something different with it. I like removing things from the game, but once that happens it should be just that: Removed. These days some days treat the RFP zone like a Graveyard #2, which I find stupid, as far as the meaning of being "Removed" goes. Don't get me wrong, however. I love me a good RFP deck, and made a couple crappy ones from my friend's cards back when I was first starting. The mechanic of permanent removal was always fun to me, and even now if your deck isn't designed for it, Removing something from play is pretty nasty. Overall, Chaos should come back. That and other "mixed" attribute-like archetypes, like a EARTH-FIRE cross, or go opposites again for something screwy. When you take the cosmology of the attributes into consideration, you could come up with alot of plot fillers and main plot lines from the mixing, building, and shaping of the attributes. LIGHT and DARK just so happened to make Chaos. What might others make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 [quote name='Ghostmyth' timestamp='1292912068' post='4869967'] I hate Chaos and what it's done to today's meta. Seriously, I hate the speed of current Yugioh games. But I understand that Konami has to constantly make new and stronger cards to fit our interests. I bet within the next few years we'll have a spell card that says something like "Special summon one monster from your deck," without a negative effect, and people will still call it weak. [/quote] I swear, you kids these days. I finally figure out how to get these newfangled internets working, and all I see is this crap everywhere. It's high time that I, Wilford Brimley, teach all you young scoundrels a lesson. Yessir, I'll show you- hey, you! You punk with the torn jeans! Get off of my lawn and get a damn job or something. Christ, what is the world coming to? We didn't have any of this crap back in my day, no sir. We didn't have these electronical gizmos, you know. We spent our free time working in the coal mines. We had to take crap out of the ground for sixty hours a week, and they didn't pay us more than a couple bucks each month. That was before we had all this crap with inflation. Jesus, you kids take your money for granted. You think you can just walk down to your local department store and get yourself some sort of computer thingy every day because your damn parents will spoil you by paying for it. Back when I was your age, we worked for our money, and we earned it with our bare hands. We didn't sit around all day posting crap on these "forums". It was my hard work and perseverance that made me into the person I am today, instead of some damn conman who gets thrown into prison, which would serve that punk over there right for wearing those ripped jeans. But I digress. What was I talking about? It was something about torn jeans. See, if that damn skater punk hadn't interrupted me, this would never have happened. That punk will probably be thrown into jail soon, you hear? He's certainly a communist. What are all these damn communists doing on the internets, anyhow? Last time I checked, the internet belonged to America. We speak American on here, not Hawaiian or Mexican or British or whatever other damn language you can come up with. Christ, why are they letting these communists stay on America's computers, anyhow? You know, back in my day, we had public lynchings of those damn commies. I found out that my college roommate was a commie, and he would have been lynched if he hadn't already been thrown in jail for stealing some crap from that store. You know, the store that was selling that crap. You know the one. They probably sell teacups there too, which is British, which is practically a communist country anyhow. I hear they're full of skater punks too. Back when I was young, we didn't shun people for discussing stuff either, unless they were discussing communism or some crap like that. No sir, I was involved in some heated debates in my day. Like that one where we argued over whether America should go enter the war. You know, the war with all the soldiers, and the fighting and stuff. And probably communists too. Except the communists later betrayed their own allies and joined the British. That just goes to show that you can't trust them. There were also those damn German communists who went around killing Polish communists. I argued strongly for America to enter the war, yes sir, and get rid of all those commies. And the war, of course, was a victory for America. Then those Russian communists betrayed us just liked they betrayed the German communists. I saw it coming for years, you know. Can't trust those communists. Anyhow, the point is that discussion can be damn good for a country, especially if it teaches those skater punks a lesson. Christ, why are there so many of them nowadays? You know, I was telling another bunch of young scoundrels this the other day, and they complained that I was insulting them. Just because your view is crap doesn't mean that you're being insulted when someone like Wilford Brimley proves you wrong, no sir. Unless you're one of those damn punks who gets arrested for robbery and takes up space in American prisons that could be used on bigger threats, like Mexicans. Those foreigners are always stealing American jobs, which might be why America's youth is so crappy, because they couldn't get jobs even if they wanted to with all these Mexicans running around. Back in my day, Mexico was still ruled by France or some crappy European country like that. Those French people may have been un-American, but they kept those Mexicans in line, yes sir. You didn't see any Mexicans mining coal back then. But then the damn French ran away like they always do and America was stuck with people running across the border. Jesus, there's so much crap on the internets, it's hard to know where to begin. The best thing to do is for everyone to just get a job as a coal miner, so you'll have some cash to spend on the damn pieces of cardboard that you punks pay such high prices to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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