byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Shard Of Stardust stop being dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1293733429' post='4896573'] some hilarious posts againbanlist threads are always fun [/quote] [quote name='ze super cat' timestamp='1293733575' post='4896579'] Shard Of Stardust stop being dumb. [/quote] while you may think your helping, your not. Maybe explain your reasoning. Why do you disagree? I think most of his choices are pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Necro Gardna? Hmm.. @2, @1 is a little too restrictive. With all the Blackwing swarm around, It's not overly broken having this @3. Blackwings usually get 3 monsters out per turn unless they have a bad hand. Once again, I never run Lightsworns now, mainly because I prefer my ZombieWings, but Necro-Gardna won't win you any said game, unless you are trying to cower for defence to hope for a Jd. @2 or @3, I don't care to be honest. Also, Noobish Suggestion: Against The Wind @1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hey guys we should semilimit Shura because it's overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='Shard Of Stardust' timestamp='1293733856' post='4896608'] Also, Noobish Suggestion: Against The Wind @1. [/quote] Noobish indeed. No top tier BW decks run that card at all. EDIT: @Byakk, it's really tough to be srs when you @ manjy don't like to follow the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 That was justification/reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Shura is fine @3. I can't tell if you're trolling. But, yes to BWW going to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I Have my [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Reasoning"]reasoning[/url] for Against The Wind. You can go into Goyo and another Lvl6 synchro with 2 boras/2 shuras/any 2 of level 4's. Yep, it's nooby and no-one runs it, but that's a suggestion I had to make. [s]They Should totally have CED And Yata-Garasu @3!!!![/s]Jk. In terms of stuff to come off the list, or atleast to be moved, Ojama Trio @3, No one even uses it, why is it on the list? Icarus Attack @2 Or @1, this format should be about slowing down blackwings enough to make it fair for the other deck types, as right now they've been Tier 1 for 3 formats, as a post above this one said. Nooby Suggestion 2: Vayu @0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaouJudai Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ok here's where we are - BWW to 0 - Warning remains at 3 for me. Duality - remains @ 3. They haven't made their money YET (they will though) Both may go to 1 in Sept - unless most of you do agree it will go to 2 and I'll annotate that. BWW- 0 Warning- 2 POD- 2 Necro Guardna-2 Lumina-2 BRD-2 Mst-3 any objections? I will make these changes and I will be offline for a couple of hours. OP to be updated tonight when I return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote]Wow.[/quote] Whatisthisidon'teven. Nope, no objections with those changes, they are pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='Shard Of Stardust' timestamp='1293734916' post='4896667'] Nooby Suggestion 2: Vayu @0. [/quote] Icarus attack is a good suggestion. I want to hear from more people. Also, IMO Vayu can go to a minimum of 1 if, and ONLY if, the lvl 5 BW synchro is made. Right now, he's only ran @1 because he has a minor role in the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='eviljudai' timestamp='1293735156' post='4896680'] Necro Guardna-2 Lumina-2 [/quote] Do want.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='Dark Marquis Belial' timestamp='1293735222' post='4896689'] Do want.jpg [/quote] AGREEMENT!.Gif Yeah, If the Lvl5 Blackwing synchro is released, Vayu @1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='eviljudai' timestamp='1293735156' post='4896680'] BWW- 0 Warning- 2 POD- 2 Necro Guardna-2 Lumina-2 BRD-2 Mst-3 [/quote] I agree and want all of these. But your most likely right about Warning and Duality being the money makers. I doubt they'll get hit but in a perfect world they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Thread's getting better and better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ITT: Konami's banlist depends on Konami's economy. ITT: Everything should be semilimited because it's good. ITT: The top decks should always be killed by the banlist because they're the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='ze super cat' timestamp='1293735654' post='4896727'] ITT: Konami's banlist depends on Konami's economy. ITT: Everything should be semilimited because it's good. ITT: The top decks should always be killed by the banlist because they're the best. [/quote] Iknorite.png, We should go back to playing Equip spells and Vanillas! I don't understand who these posts are aimed at, but I'll say you are aiming them at me. Icarus @2/@1 Because It's easy to play with blackwings, there is no specification on what you can destroy, and you can destroy 2 cards. It could have stayed @3 if it was only 1 card IMO, but 2 is overkill abit for 1 card. Especially with the fact you can use Vayu for it and Synchro from the grave. That’s a...Let's see here: -1 For Icarus itself, -1 for the tribute, +2 for the destroyed cards, +1 if you use Vayu for a synchro. It comes out as a +1 if you class destroying your opponents cards as gaining advantage. It's pretty broken, but not ban worthy. What's everyone's opinion on Allure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 [quote name='Shard Of Stardust' timestamp='1293736127' post='4896766'] What's everyone's opinion on Allure? I know it breaks even but once again it can drop Vayu in the grave for a synchro. [/quote] Allure RFP's. It's fine @1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 You're under the impression that anything that is a good card should be on the banlist. "What's everyone's opinion on Allure? I know it breaks even but once again it can drop Vayu in the grave for a synchro. " what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 O_O *Facepalms* Lol fail. Fixed the allure post. [quote]You're under the impression that anything that is a good card should be on the banlist.[/quote] Oh sorry, Am I making blackwings too slow? can they no longer win within 3 turns or some other stupid amount? I'm not saying all the good cards should go on the list, Just things that make specific decks insanely fast *Looks directly at blackwings* The format needs to slow down a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ... Blackwings aren't even the Tier 0 decks, are they? Why the hell is Shard of Stardust ragging on Blackwings so much? Did you lose a bunch to Blackwings or something? Against the Wind for limit list is an awful idea. Dark Eruption does the same thing, has more targets, get the targets you're more likely going to want to have in your hand, and costs no LP. Vayu, I've always kind of had the same ideas of Vayu as for Mezuki, except Mezuki's much easier to play and much more broken. However, a card being "less broken" doesn't mean the card isn't broken. Chaos Sorceror is less broken then BLS-Envoy, yet both should be banned. I think it borders on being zero, but no one ever agrees with me, and I haven't played in about 10 months, so make of that what you will. Allure makes the game too damn fast. Should be at zero. Not likely though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ^ What about Trade In and other Draw Power? What about Searchers like ROTA? They all make the game alot faster too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Allure is easier to play than Trade-In... Additionally @Pika, Blackwings are one of the three best decks this format, but he's probably mad for the reasons you stated. And Against the Wind was just a "troll suggestion". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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