Bringerofcake Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 * If a card gives a monster +100 ATK, and "Reverse Trap" is activated, that monster now has -100 ATK instead. This card only affects increases and decreases of a defined value, such as +200 (which becomes -200) or -500 (which becomes +500). It does not change cards which "double", "half", or "reduce to 0" the ATK or DEF of a monster. * You cannot activate this card during the Damage Step. This card affects monsters, Spell Cards, and Trap Cards controlled by both players. * During the turn "Reverse Trap" is activated, "Light and Darkness Dragon's" second effect will only activate 1 time after "Reverse Trap" resolves. When it does, it will gain 500 ATK and DEF instead of losing 500 ATK and DEF. "Light and Darkness Dragon's" second effect will activate normally during following turns, and if it gained 500 ATK and DEF the gained ATK and DEF becomes a loss of 500 ATK and DEF. Reverse Trap is pro LADD tech. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 [quote name='Bringerofcake' timestamp='1294171096' post='4911430'] Reverse Trap is pro LADD tech.[/quote] Not really. It gives you a +500 boost once, and then LaDD becomes useless for the rest of that turn. [quote]Example: Player A activates "Reverse Trap" in his Main Phase 1. Afterwards, he Tribute Summons "Light and Darkness Dragon". Player B activates "Bottomless Trap Hole". "Light and Darkness Dragon's" effect activates, negating "Bottomless Trap Hole" and gaining 500 ATK and DEF. During the Battle Phase, Player A attacks with "Light and Darkness Dragon". Player B activates "Sakuretsu Armor". "Light and Darkness Dragon's" second effect does not activate and it is destroyed by "Sakuretsu Armor". [/quote] Source: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Reverse_Trap You'd be better off chaining Rush Recklessly after the first chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 If only it was continuous... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1294171754' post='4911450'] Not really. It gives you a +500 boost once, and then LaDD becomes useless for the rest of that turn. [/quote] I guess what I meant to say is that it's pro [b]anti-[/b]tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 So your "pro anti-tech" is a three card combo, where one of the cards in the combo is completely useless without this specific set up? There's already plenty of three card combos to get rid of LaDD, using not useless cards. (off the top of my head, any Random S/T, LaDD's effect goes off, then chain PWWB, with any random third card taking up the place of the card you discard with PWWB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Well huzzah. You have revealed my secret, and revealed my fail: Reverse Trap is useless. Go ahead and lock the damn thing now, as I'm fairly sure no one will be posting anything useful here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Dark End Dragon. If that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zektor Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I have it and have yet to find a meaning for it, alone it sucks, hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 This topic is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 ...uh What would happen if you flipped it when LaDD has only 800 ATK left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 [img]http://www.sott.net/image/image/s1/35405/full/Trololo.jpg[/img] You know, the weird monster-thing in the Reverse Trap art reminds me of a rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexcalibrate Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 this card is anti-shrink, rush, honest and kalut, my favourite trap that if i could find a copy of it, i would run it. i even made a set about the reverse increase/decrease's concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I'll give a valid use for this card Anti Equip deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 [quote name='Naturia Melon' timestamp='1294182986' post='4911919'] this card is anti-shrink, rush, honest and kalut, my favourite trap that if i could find a copy of it, i would run it. i even made a set about the reverse increase/decrease's concept. [/quote] This card as no affect on Shrink. Also... Back when Yugioh was young, this was like the only card I could think of that would be of any use with Reverse Trap for a turn o.x [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070416023853/yugioh/images/thumb/1/11/FlashAssailantDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-FlashAssailantDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1294184867' post='4911980'] This card as no affect on Shrink. Also... Back when Yugioh was young, this was like the only card I could think of that would be of any use with Reverse Trap for a turn o.x [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070416023853/yugioh/images/thumb/1/11/FlashAssailantDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg/300px-FlashAssailantDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] [/quote] Flash Assailant vs. Obelisk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Reverse Trap.dek would be so pro... EDIT:Wasted 4000th post on this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='Bringerofcake' timestamp='1294171096' post='4911430'] You cannot activate this card during the Damage Step. [/quote] [center][IMG]http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/tt148/burnpsy/ThisIsBS.png[/IMG][/center] That was what killed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Well, Reverse Trap does not modify ATK or DEF of a monster. It modifies card effects which Increase or Decrease ATK. There's no reason for it to work during the Damage Step >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1294275669' post='4914493'] Well, Reverse Trap does not modify ATK or DEF of a monster. It modifies card effects which Increase or Decrease ATK. There's no reason for it to work during the Damage Step >< [/quote] If it modifies card effect that alter ATK and DEF, it's still altering ATK and DEF, albeit somewhat indirectly. The entire point of the card is to modify ATK and DEF. That's its only reason for existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='burnpsy' timestamp='1294276161' post='4914511'] If it modifies card effect that alter ATK and DEF, it's still altering ATK and DEF, albeit somewhat indirectly. The entire point of the card is to modify ATK and DEF. That's its only reason for existence. [/quote] Read what you just said though, "It modifies card effects". Its not altering the ATK and DEF of a monster. Its altering the ATK and DEF granted by card effects which are then reapplying their modified effects onto the monster. This would be why it doesn't work >< Of course, I agree, that's the only point of the card, but Game Mechanics wont let you activate it since it itself does not modify a monster's ATK or DEF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1294278385' post='4914594'] Read what you just said though, "It modifies card effects". Its not altering the ATK and DEF of a monster. Its altering the ATK and DEF granted by card effects which are then reapplying their modified effects onto the monster. This would be why it doesn't work >< Of course, I agree, that's the only point of the card, but Game Mechanics wont let you activate it since it itself does not modify a monster's ATK or DEF. [/quote] What I was implying was that I thought it should have been exempted from the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~/Coolio Prime\~ Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 [quote name='Mikhail Tal' timestamp='1294182689' post='4911910'] [img]http://www.sott.net/image/image/s1/35405/full/Trololo.jpg[/img] You know, the weird monster-thing in the Reverse Trap art reminds me of a rapist. [/quote] [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/8/81/ReverseTrapSDJ-NA-C-1E.jpg[/img] Never saw that before. I always thought, "black woman loal". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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