Catterjune Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 [quote name='GreigaBeastDS' timestamp='1295110275' post='4935970'] Reborn should stay at one because imo there are plenty of ways to negate it. [/quote] Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End should stay at one because imo there are plenty of ways to negate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Seriously, on Fishborg blaster. It isn't as splashable as Plaguespreader, but the fact that it can be used an unlimited amount of times, with a much better cost than plaguespreader, seems kind of broken IMO. the only justification is that it is too specific and a little bit situational, but the fact that it is capable of synchroing like crack... any thoughts? I wouldn't mind if it was at least limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Red W Mage' timestamp='1295142634' post='4937117'] Seriously, on Fishborg blaster. It isn't as splashable as Plaguespreader, but the fact that it can be used an unlimited amount of times, with a much better cost than plaguespreader, seems kind of broken IMO. the only justification is that it is too specific and a little bit situational, but the fact that it is capable of synchroing like crack... any thoughts? I wouldn't mind if it was at least limited. [/quote] Its sad that your serious. Limitting Fishborg would have as much of an affect as limitting Level Eater. If you want further logic, by all means ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black W Mage Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1295145190' post='4937224'] Limitting Fishborg would have as much of an affect as limitting Level Eater. If you want further logic, by all means ask. [/quote] The difference is that Level Eater, as far as I'm concerned, has not produced anything of worth. Fishborg, however, has been increasingly active in a lot of decks that run water, notably frogs, Coelacanth, and Cloudians. I guess I can see where limiting it won't matter as much, seeing as you only need 1 out, banning it maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I think that One for One should be @2. It requires a Monster to discard, which can be exploited, but not as easily as just any card. Also, it only grabs Level 1 monsters. While they are useful, it just isn't enough to be @1. Eh, I could be wrong, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 One for One with Mind Master available and lately, a plethora of good level 1 monsters should not be higher than 1. Fishborg, albeit being good, needs no limiting or even semi'ing. It's everything else. [quote name='PikaPerson01' timestamp='1295128510' post='4936737'] Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End should stay at one because imo there are plenty of ways to negate it. [/quote] *Insert uber Chaos Deck.dek* thoughts on Tsukuyomi?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Tsukyomi is really fun, but with Mask of Darkness and (Drastic) Drop Off, it just feels like it could be annoying. Still, I feel that might not be consistent enough to be an issue, so I guess @1 for a format to see how things move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Ban/Limiit Dandylion (to easily abused by Debris Dragon) or Ban/Limit Debris Dragon due to easily abusable targets. Ban Cold Wave (Otks) Ban Monster Reborn (Broken Costless Generic Revival) Ban Dark Hole (Costless Mass Removal) Limit Treeborn (Free Monarch Every Turn) Limit Heavy Storm (I don't like players being able to set their whole had with no fear) Semi Destiny Draw (Balanced Card IMO) Semi Dark Soul Semi Faultroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote]Limit Heavy Storm (I don't like players being able to set their whole had with no fear)[/quote] And I like don't like people who don't play the game and make ridiculous claims. This was true for about a month then everybody realized that icarus, hyunlei, brd, etc ... still exist @3. Anyway, can any of you retards explain why the f*** does a [b]synchro[/b] that [b]no one runs @3[/b] warrants a bloody [b]semi-limit[/b]? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 you talking Dewloren? What would be the result if they put Level Limit Area-B and Gravity Bind to 2 for a format? with the amount of destruction present, i doubt it would have a major effect and it might give slower decks somewhat more of a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 black rose dragon (one of the most popular suggestions ffs) obviously, I wouldn't insult ycmers for something that konami did and besides there was a semi-decent reason for semi-imiting dewloren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1295166909' post='4937768'] What would be the result if they put Level Limit Area-B and Gravity Bind to 2 for a format? with the amount of destruction present, i doubt it would have a major effect and it might give slower decks somewhat more of a chance. [/quote] Really don't like the idea. Most Decks that need to stall that long don't have much player-player interaction and most Decks that DO use those and have player-player interaction could use T-Roar and jank if it's that needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1295165495' post='4937747'] And I like don't like people who don't play the game and make ridiculous claims. This was true for about a month then everybody realized that icarus, hyunlei, brd, etc ... still exist @3. [/quote] ITT: People set their whole back row with no protection, and itt everyone plays deck specific synchros and type specific traps, and itt Solemn Warning/Judgment does not exist to deal with BRD... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 itt: scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Compelling argument bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 well, there's no way to counter a retarded argument :S [quote]People set their whole back row with no protection[/quote] same thing applies to heavy storm. stop being retarded [quote]everyone plays deck specific synchros and type specific traps[/quote] stop playing bad decks [quote]Solemn Warning/Judgment does not exist to deal with BRD...[/quote] and solemn judgment and dark bribe do not exist to deal with heavy storm. stop being retarded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Majishan Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 So you're telling me a player going first and setting 4 back rows with no fear of being punished for over extending is perfectly fine ? Forcing everyone to play specific deck types just so they can have access to mass S/T removal is perfectly ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote]So you're telling me a player going first and setting 4 back rows with no fear of being punished for over extending is perfectly fine ?[/quote] [quote] This was true for about a month then everybody realized that icarus, hyunlei, brd, etc ... still exist @3.[/quote] [quote]Forcing everyone to play specific deck types just so they can have access to mass S/T removal is perfectly ok?[/quote] yeah, there is such a little variety in top decks now that heavy is gone. I mean, I can only name about 10 decks that can win an ycs. if anything, having heavy storm limited reduces deck variety. Besides, if your deck cannot deal with a big back row, it's not good enough. You can't expect to be able to win with every deck that you pick up. anyway, you must be a troll, no one is that dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Mark of the Bloo-D Rose' timestamp='1295171403' post='4937924'] So you're telling me a player going first and setting 4 back rows with no fear of being punished for over extending is perfectly fine ? [/quote] You do realise that barely anyone is actually doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Manjy is right. also @guy who thinks treeborn should be limited because free monarch every turn, limited treeborn still does that... >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Placido.' timestamp='1295175302' post='4938031'] Manjy is right. also @guy who thinks treeborn should be limited because free monarch every turn, limited treeborn still does that... >_> [/quote] But then D.D. Crow gets your opponent game. I don't think Treeborn needs to be hit at all tbh, since I am the only one who runs Frognarchs in my entire area (apart from this noob who runs a scrubby version that doesn't work). Frognarchs aren't topping anything either and there are other decks that need to be hit before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='}~Gob~Zom~{' timestamp='1295175568' post='4938036'] But then D.D. Crow gets your opponent game. I don't think Treeborn needs to be hit at all tbh, since I am the only one who runs Frognarchs in my entire area (apart from this noob who runs a scrubby version that doesn't work). Frognarchs aren't topping anything either and there are other decks that need to be hit before them. [/quote] Saying DD Crow is an arguement is like saying Warning stops CED so it's okay at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkest Hour Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 It seems like people are pretty divided when it comes to Black Rose Dragon's placement on the list. Or they just like shooting down every suggestion in existence because they are tarnished little teenagers. Well, I vote it goes to three if Heavy Storm and Dark Hole end up on the Banned list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Anyones thoughts on Miracle Fusion? I wanna see some lolz out of this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Chess Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Semi-Limited : Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys. Its Heavy Storm with some chance to be negated. Do it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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