Manjoume Thunder Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070423003153/yugioh/images/thumb/b/b5/PuppetPlantSTON-EN-C-1E.jpg/300px-PuppetPlantSTON-EN-C-1E.jpg[/img] thought that this card is subpar (and I still do) but I have yet to find anything better well, I guess that for now I have to be content with stealin' dem shiens and praying that my opponent doesn't have a spare one discuss puppet plant and other cards that can break (not prevent) a six samurai set-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelds9 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Quite situational... I am not a big fan of situational cards... Just me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 learn to side deck, scrub Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ＴＨＥ ＧＯＤ ＯＦ ＯＢＥＬＩＳＫ Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1294943911' post='4932384'] learn to side deck, scrub [/quote] This. Also, dem GK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 The plant is taking pills... Why isn't that censored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I used to think cards like this were Quick Effects. Then I realized they weren't and decided they all sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 By Shoguns you don't mean Great Shogun Shien do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 At first I thought it worked on your opponents turn as did you. Knowing that its only on my turn makes it subpar, but still usable. *Happy that I made this thread first*. (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 The Six Sams are all like: "OMG THERE FIELD IS FULLS OF DRUGS! *runs over to opponent's side* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 What about Kinetic Soldier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Spell-Shattering Arrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1294968138' post='4933220'] Spell-Shattering Arrow. [/quote] MST does it better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1294968510' post='4933238'] MST does it better [/quote] ...Not sure if srs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1294968546' post='4933243'] ...Not sure if srs. [/quote] gets rid if Gateway and united for like 1000 damage. Mst is more universal anyways and its also the monsters that need to be dealt with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1294968733' post='4933252'] gets rid if Gateway and united for like 1000 damage. Mst is more universal anyways and its also the monsters that need to be dealt with. [/quote] Arrow destroys [i]all[/i] of their Continuous Spells instead of just MST'ing one. Then their plays are only as good as what's in their hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1294968975' post='4933259'] Arrow destroys [i]all[/i] of their Continuous Spells instead of just MST'ing one. Then their plays are only as good as what's in their hand. [/quote] What happens then when your opponent already had 5 samurais on the field? Spell Shattering ony works well when you have the specific timing right, and that's first move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1294969173' post='4933265'] What happens then when your opponent already had 5 samurais on the field? Spell Shattering ony works well when you have the specific timing right, and that's first move [/quote] Then MST wouldn't help you in that situation either. This isn't a very good argument if you're deciding MST vs Spell Shattering Arrow >_>; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1294969173' post='4933265'] What happens then when your opponent already had 5 samurais on the field? Spell Shattering ony works well when you have the specific timing right, and that's first move [/quote] You shouldn't let them get that far. I'm not siding out my MSTs. They'll still be there along with Arrow, Dust Tornado, triple Warning, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1294970208' post='4933299'] You shouldn't let them get that far. I'm not siding out my MSTs. They'll still be there along with Arrow, Dust Tornado, triple Warning, etc. [/quote] I guess. Still personally 3 Warnings and MSTs should just about do it. How many arrows you planning to side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1294970662' post='4933313'] I guess. Still personally 3 Warnings and MSTs should just about do it. How many arrows you planning to side? [/quote] Considering I only have one, one. I might side 2, idk. Or 1 and some Dust Tornadoes. Not that all this s/t destruction works vs Dragunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1294970012' post='4933294'] Then MST wouldn't help you in that situation either. This isn't a very good argument if you're deciding MST vs Spell Shattering Arrow >_>; [/quote] MST can get rid of face downs. Warning especially. In which its more flexible later on in duels than what Spell Shattering can do @Tie: I actually forgot about Dragunities to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='Azuh' timestamp='1294971301' post='4933345'] MST can get rid of face downs. Warning especially. In which its more flexible later on in duels than what Spell Shattering can do [/quote] I understand the difference between the two cards and the ups and downs, that's not the issue. The reason why I stated that was because you brought up "What if they had 5 Monsters on the field". Neither MST nor Spell-Shattering Arrow would've helped you at this point, which is why I said it was a bad argument for choosing between the two o.x I'm not even sure if anyone said to REPLACE MST with Spell Shattering (not that I bothered to check lol). It can be useful, considering there are three Spell Cards they'll have face-up on the field: Gateway of the Six, Six Samurai United, and Residence of the Six (assuming it is even used for the simple fact that it can hold Bushido Counters for Gateway). In the end though, Gateway of the Six is the main card that needs to be dealt with, so being able to blow up all three of those probably wont be as much a difference as blowing up only Gateway of the Six, so you might not need to add Spell Shattering Arrow and may be better off with a Dust Tornado, just as long as you have something that's ready to nip it in the bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='darkwolf777' timestamp='1294973272' post='4933443'] I understand the difference between the two cards and the ups and downs, that's not the issue. The reason why I stated that was because you brought up "What if they had 5 Monsters on the field". Neither MST nor Spell-Shattering Arrow would've helped you at this point, which is why I said it was a bad argument o.x I'm not even sure if anyone said to REPLACE MST with Spell Shattering (not that I bothered to check lol). It can be useful, considering there are three Spell Cards they'll have face-up on the field: Gateway of the Six, Six Samurai United, and Residence of the Six (assuming it is even used for the simple fact that it can hold Bushido Counters for Gateway). In the end though, Gateway of the Six is the main card that needs to be dealt with, so being able to blow up all three of those probably wont be as much a difference as blowing up only Gateway of the Six, so you might not need to add Spell Shattering Arrow and may be better off with a Dust Tornado, just as long as you have something that's ready to nip it in the bud. [/quote] Double Gateway exists. You can control more than one. Oh, and Residence isn't played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote name='RobotBowtieOfDestruction' timestamp='1294973630' post='4933459'] Double Gateway exists. You can control more than one. Oh, and Residence isn't played. [/quote] I see. With the way things are looking though, I don't expect Gateway to stay at 3 though, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 [quote]By Shoguns you don't mean Great Shogun Shien do you?[/quote] for some reason though that Shien's legendary version was a Shogun. Fixed to avoid confusion. [quote]Spell-Shattering Arrow.[/quote] doesn't do s*** against their samurai :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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