Just Crouton Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I believe that netdecking is a great learning tool for the game. By netdecking a popular deck, you have a good base to play from, and as you learn more about the deck's functions and style, you can development your own variation of the deck overtime to suit your personal preference, such as your own tech cards. Should netdecking really be frowned on despite it's benefits? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 [color=#474747][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=2][quote]netdecking is a great learning tool for the game[/quote][/size][/font][/color] [font="tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif"][size="3"][color="#474747"][size=2] [/size][/color][/size][/font] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 People look down on different things. I've seen someone complain about a random pile of s*** used against them purely because it got synchros out faster than their shitty gravekeepr's deck. The answer is no, I only look down on a deck when it's IRL and the person has three of each envoy and pretty much three of every destruction card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 As you said yourself, netdecking is a great way to learn the game. I netdeck sometimes, but after I get the hang of the strategy, I modify it some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 [color=#474747][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=2][quote]I've seen someone complain about a random pile of s*** used against them purely because it got synchros out faster than their shitty gravekeepr's deck.[/quote][/size][/font][/color] [color=#474747][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#474747][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=2]you are not supposed to drop syncrhos with gks[/size][/font][/color][color=#474747][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] [color=#474747][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=2] [/size][/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I copy "netdecks" into my games only such that I can try beating them using recipe duel and such. The AI's are terrible, so it isn't really good practice for creating strategies to counter IRL opponents, but its a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I take decks off of here and give the lists to noobs because they complain... I don't have that many decks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 the way i look at it, rather than netdeck, you look for ideas and mix it up to serve your own playstyle. copying a deck card for card is just crap. it requires no thought and often, people will take the credit for the deck. obviously, alot of decks are extremely similar (i.e six sams/blackwings) and making a good deck is basically netdecking..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Wait, someone thinks netdecking is bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 [quote name='~King Crouton~' timestamp='1296204240' post='4967526'] I believe that netdecking is a great learning tool for the game. By netdecking a popular deck, you have a good base to play from, and as you learn more about the deck's functions and style, you can development your own variation of the deck overtime to suit your personal preference, such as your own tech cards. Should netdecking really be frowned on despite it's benefits? Discuss. [/quote] Yes. It's basicially copying someones ideas. MAKE YOUR OWN DECK. It doesn't matter if you netdeck and change it, but copying someone's deck flat out is downright stupid, obnoxious and mostly boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Uh, supposedly I'd want to learn how X-Sabers work. I have no idea what any of the cards do. What should I do, make my own build, or try out a build that topped a YCS and then make adjustments to fit my preference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I don't see much problem with netdecking if the deck was actually made available by the wielder. I don't like keeping the identical build, though, unless I found it works perfectly. Most people have different styles and preferences of cards, and may not agree with some of the reasons one player put card X in as opposed to card Z. With a bunch of archetypes out, the best thing to do, I feel, is to find a decklist as an example. I did that for X-Sabers because X-Sabers have SOOOO many cards and support that it's difficult for a duelist who never played the deck, or doesn't fully grasp the strategy, to filter out the crap from the gems. Once I have a good idea of what cards are "good", I test the deck a few times, searching for my niche in the deck strategy, and then make modifications to further my version. Two people could have an identical deck, but play it completely differently. Obviously, efficiency is lost in some styles. I once found a deck on Pojo that I really liked, but I didn't like some of the card choices, so I changed them. Later, I modified the deck again and got my Underground Arachnid deck that was sheer awesomeness for a while. I probably never would have gotten the strategy idea if I hadn't sen the deck somewhere else, and took a liking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 [quote name='=Evangelion=' timestamp='1296221614' post='4967787'] Wait, someone thinks netdecking is bad? [/quote] There's the occasional person in deck section who posts a terrible deck, then complains that they don't want to netdeck because they aren't competitive players when someone suggests a better deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Well, there are people who want to play non-competitive and more fun decks. And for that matter, I dont like when people advise I revamp my entire deck idea and style to a more competitive version that, while possibly more consistent, ignores the idea I originally had and want to aim for. There are times when a posted deck really is a pile of junk in serious need of redoing, and times when the advice is to play an entirely different version simply because the one giving the advice doesn't know how to improve the current build in smaller steps. And when I build a deck, I do try to stick to my own ideas and style, and find another deck list is a great guide. Like some people tech Caius in their decks. Caius is good, but I may not want to use Caius or want the room for something else. So rather than netdeck entirely, I've altered the build. Now it's not as much an offense. Netdecking is probably bad/worst when people copy a winning deck and DONT try to fashion it to their own style/preference. Then you get a case of Dimitri from GX, who actually demonstrated a genuine point despite the typical anime concept regarding luck. Copying a deck does not make you as good a player as the builder. If they truly built it, they know it better than you will and can use it better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 netdecking is a tool. It's not bad at all. If your playstyle is that same way keep it. When you start to play the deck more you will adjust the deck to your style. It's a game mechanic that helps duelist grow. Who thinks this is stupid. If so i bet when you first started the game you looked at decks on the wiki or someone of your friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I personally think netdecking is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1296238400' post='4968110'] Well, there are people who want to play non-competitive and more fun decks. And for that matter, I dont like when people advise I revamp my entire deck idea and style to a more competitive version that, while possibly more consistent, ignores the idea I originally had and want to aim for. There are times when a posted deck really is a pile of junk in serious need of redoing, and times when the advice is to play an entirely different version simply because the one giving the advice doesn't know how to improve the current build in smaller steps. And when I build a deck, I do try to stick to my own ideas and style, and find another deck list is a great guide. Like some people tech Caius in their decks. Caius is good, but I may not want to use Caius or want the room for something else. So rather than netdeck entirely, I've altered the build. Now it's not as much an offense. Netdecking is probably bad/worst when people copy a winning deck and DONT try to fashion it to their own style/preference. Then you get a case of Dimitri from GX, who actually demonstrated a genuine point despite the typical anime concept regarding luck. Copying a deck does not make you as good a player as the builder. If they truly built it, they know it better than you will and can use it better. [/quote] Rep for being an awesome duelist and having awesome ideals. I personally greatly dislike the type of netdecking you outline in your 3rd paragraph. That type of netdecking is all I ever see and I despise it. I build decks straight out of my mind. Whenever I want to build a new deck that I've seen before I just take the key cards and work from there never looking back at the decklist again. Netdecking is one of the worst kind of crutches ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Unclean One: VK Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I only think it's bad when the person doesn't modify it at all. Otherwise, go nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Rrey Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Well, you can netdeck a deck to play with it and study it if you are new with the kind of deck. This will allow you to create your own build. [s]Or else, you can also netdeck a deck because your version of the deck sucks![/s] Cool story: I once fell on a guy who insulted because i was running Ruin in meh Perfect Herald deck, saying i netdeck Jeff Jones'. I showed him my whole deck clearly saying it's not the same build but told me that i may have changed some stuff. Also, at that time, i had Perfect Declarer and Kristya on my field so... maybe he looked for a reason to ragequit i dunno. It was said he was one of YVB's best player oO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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