The Shadow Games

[thekazu4u]

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This card's effect cannot be negated. A player who looses the game is looses the match, and players cannot resign. Then, if either player has activated a "Shadow Games" card during this game, draw 1 card.

And in the manga the effect would be:
This card's effect cannot be negated. The soul of the loosing player is sent to the Shadow Realm, and players cannot resign.

[judedudemude]

so more or less

if you playing in a match (best of ?) you only have to win one time to win the match

and

both players are forrbidden to surrender

i like that concept

[thekazu4u]

yes, exactly. That is the concept. Match in tournaments are best of 3.
both players are forbidden to surrender so people cannot resign just before you win the whole match.

[judedudemude]

well it questionable on realistic but can be proven very usefull

[Demon wolf]

I think this would fall under popculture cards, since it's base of the anime show. But the card is to OP in my case.
1. If they lose the duel they lose the match? Kinda unfair don't you think?
2. If it can't be negated then have it have a drawback like paying life points or something?
3. On top of all that, you get to draw a card, now where's the drawback there?

In this case I would like to give this card a 2/10

[thekazu4u]

[quote name='Demon wolf' timestamp='1299981049' post='5069948']
I think this would fall under popculture cards, since it's base of the anime show. But the card is to OP in my case.
1. If they lose the duel they lose the match? Kinda unfair don't you think?
2. If it can't be negated then have it have a drawback like paying life points or something?
3. On top of all that, you get to draw a card, now where's the drawback there?

In this case I would like to give this card a 2/10
[/quote]

It is not a "popculture" card, it is a realistic card based on the anime. Many cards are like this. Remember the card "Penalty Game"?
1. How is that unfair. if you loose, you loose the match, and it is a minus one, so it makes you more likely to loose.
2. Ok, perhaps it should have some drawback, or something that adds to the whole feel of the card. I am still thinking about that, like a cost that you must pay every turn and if you don't you loose the match. But I still think that even as it is it is not OPd.
3. You only get the card if previously the card has been played. So that is just so people can play 2 or 3 copies without the 2nd or 3rd being completely useless.

[Icy]

All current matchwinners are illegal. And they allow you to forfeit.

[thekazu4u]

That is for exactly that reason. The reason they are illegal is because they are too hard to judge, not that they are too broken, at least in my opinion. Taking the resignation element out, it seems more reasonable, and easier to judge. Is the card too unbalanced, too uncreative, or does it just not meet the norm of the game? Because if it is the last, it does not make sense. If it is one of the first two, then you have a point.

[thekazu4u]

~BUMP~

[Boss Z]

Victory Dragon is not playable... this... they'd be giving this away to get rid of it, lol, SOOOO not plausable

DUDe, stop bumping all your darn things, Necro bumping is not valid an may deserve a ban

[thekazu4u]

Necro bumping? Sorry I am not familiar with that, I will stop if I knew... I read the rules but do not understand with that.

[Boss Z]

If a thread has not had a comment on it in X number of days it is considered Dead, you necro bump by "Bumping" it... you can only do that IF you add more cards on to that thread

[thekazu4u]

k sry do not see it in the rules, will refrain from doing that from now on.

[インフェルニティ・ミラージュ]

It could be real, but it would be like Victory Dragon, and banned.

[Sander]

Funny thing is that, Victory Dragon is less broken than this card is. You don't need to Summon it, and it's a Quick-Play Spell Card, making it even more broken. Pretty much, all FTK decks would run this.

Really thekazu4u, do you even think about the cards when you make them or do you just make 1000 monkies bash random letters to make a card?

[Yami-Atemu]

This MIGHT run, if it weren't a magic card AND if were negatable. And its quick play, so its even faster and more annoying. Stuff like this always gets banned during the next list. Nice art, good job. Overall: 5/10 Just because this is ban worthy and your picture is awesome sauce

[thekazu4u]

So should it be a trap card instead? I think I should drop the draw 1 effect, not one of my smarter ideas.

[Yami-Atemu]

[quote name='Zandaa Roaisu' timestamp='1300646553' post='5085501']
Funny thing is that, Victory Dragon is less broken than this card is. You don't need to Summon it, and it's a Quick-Play Spell Card, making it even more broken. Pretty much, all FTK decks would run this.Really thekazu4u, do you even think about the cards when you make them or do you just make 1000 monkies bash random letters to make a card?
[/quote]

Really guy, is there a need for insults here. So he made a bad card, no need to bash him/her about it. Just tell him/her what's wrong with it and try to help, not insult.


[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1300652061' post='5085800']
So should it be a trap card instead? I think I should drop the draw 1 effect, not one of my smarter ideas.
[/quote]

I think it would work as a negatable normal trap card since it doesn't really have a drawback. But its up to you overall.

[Sander]

[quote name='thekazu4u' timestamp='1300652061' post='5085800']
So should it be a trap card instead? I think I should drop the draw 1 effect, not one of my smarter ideas.
[/quote]

It doesn't matter if it's a Spell or a Trap Card. This being a Trap Card just means you have to set it a turn earlier. Sure, FTK's wouldn't use it, but OTK's would. Nothing good would come of this card.

Also, just let this thread die; this card cannot be balanced.